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Old 06-09-2007, 09:35 PM
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For everyone who's interested, another Musikmesse video on the Vic Firth Site.

http://vicfirth.com/features/MESSE07/harrisonHQ.html
Thanks Drizzle, awesome vid.
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Old 06-10-2007, 06:00 AM
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Hey Gavin,

I was pretty amazed with the version of "HALO" that you guys played on BBC (was it 17/8, what you said? [the middle part])...I just can't get the feel of it...can you explain a little bit how did you changed it in order to be 17/8

And...do you have any plans of coming to Buenos Aires, Argentina?? We have a great PT fanbase over here!!!!
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:21 PM
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Hi Russkie,

If you have the "Rhythmic Horizons" DVD, take a look at the Overriding Section Pt 4.

He explains it there in great detail.

If you don't have the DVD, why not get it it's great, especially if you're into these kind of rhythms.
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Old 06-10-2007, 08:16 PM
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Gavin,
I've been visiting drummerworld for years now and only yesterday took a look at the forums. I'm shocked to see that you regularily take the time to teach, share; basically shine your light on all of us with this common interest. Way to be! & Thank You.

By the way, sorry about busting in on you, steve, and (was it really?!) alex lifeson at the toronto PT show. I should have a question or two for you soon but for now im just going to browse through these last 35 pages take it all in.

Thanks again - kelly.
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Old 06-10-2007, 09:19 PM
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Gavin you're a legend, the rhythmic illusions book and visions dvd are fantastic! (Still need to get your newer stuff though!) ..and not mention your work with PTree. I love all that work you do with displacement/spacing of notes it's quality!

Anyway, thankyou!
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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Hi Russkie,,

I was pretty amazed with the version of "HALO" that you guys played on BBC (was it 17/8, what you said? [the middle part])...I just can't get the feel of it...can you explain a little bit how did you changed it in order to be 17/8

It's basically 5/8 + 5/8 + 7/8 and over the top of that I play quatrer note accents on the hi hat.

K = kick drum
S = Snare drum
- = rest

so this is the pattern that the kick and snare play

K K - S - K K - S - K K - K - S -

As Drizzle kindly mentioned there's a whole section about this (and similar rhythmic composition) on my new DVD Rhythmic Horizons.

Apeman3289, kellycurrie, trysthedrummer - thanks for the kind words

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Old 06-10-2007, 10:38 PM
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man i would love to listen to you getting creative with joe zawinul.. i love your drumming in a fusion-like context

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Old 06-10-2007, 10:43 PM
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wow

a reply by the man himself! :D

no probs, I couldn't come to see PTree in Newcastle few months ago, and I know your playing around Europe now but will you guys be coming back for a few shows maybe later on the year, into 2008?

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Old 06-11-2007, 03:20 AM
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Hi Gavin, I hope you're well.

I haven't been around on this site much lately, but thought it worth while popping on to say how very much I enjoyed your show on Friday evening at the download festival, the whole thing blew me away, so I couldn't even begin picking out various parts, thank you very much for one of the few highlights of my weekend.

best wishes and take care,

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Old 06-11-2007, 06:38 PM
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Hi trysthedrummer,
probably we'll be back around the UK in November.

Hi Jay.B
glad you enjoyed the show - felt like we weren't going down that well from where I was sitting.

if anyone's interested - just to let you know that I'll be doing a live Q & A at the Zildjian site

www.zildjian.com

TUESDAY, JUNE 12
3:00 - 4:00PM EST

that's 8pm - until 9pm UK time

hope to (virtually) see some of you there

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Old 06-11-2007, 07:34 PM
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Ok cool, won't be doing anything then so I might just do

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Old 06-12-2007, 05:40 AM
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Hey Gavin,

Great talking to you in Anaheim. Did you get the transcript I sent you?

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Old 06-12-2007, 02:27 PM
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Hi Bopdog,


Great talking to you in Anaheim. Did you get the transcript I sent you?


I didn't see any transcripts -

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Old 06-12-2007, 07:39 PM
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hi gavin

i was just wondering what drum instructional book/or books have you found the most useful over your years of playing.your books by the way are up there with the best.

i also got porcupine trees newist album and it rocks i love track 3 great song. do you like the wall, a few tracks on the newalbum sound like they are influenced by the Wall? i will definatly have to get some of your other albums.

thanks
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:02 PM
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Hey Gavin,
Congratulations on winning the MD Readers Poll Best Progressive Drummer award. Very impressive and well deserved!
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:10 PM
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Hi Gavin,
This time I write to you to make you a question, not specifically about drumming but related with music anyways.
In my way I´ve had the chance to be part of several bands but never formed a solid group with which I can work in a more serious way. Now it seems that I´ve found some interesting people to play with so my questions are:

1)How often do you play together when making new songs?
2)For how long do you play together?
3)Any suggestion which works on composition when playing in a band?


I recently bought "Perspectives", "Visions" and "Horizons". I really got surprised about the good, brief and clear explanations of concepts and this also ecouraged me to began with "Illusions" in a more detailed way. Thanks for your knowledge!

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Old 06-13-2007, 09:33 PM
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Hi again Gavin

Thank's for taking time for live chat at zildjian Z-Club event. I have a little question, since you began playing along to old jazz album, do you plan in the future to form your own jazz/fusion band and explore this world ?

I'd like very much see & hear you play some jazz sessions :-)

Thank's for your always prompt answer.
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:04 PM
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Hi mr_hayward_99

i was just wondering what drum instructional book/or books have you found the most useful over your years of playing.
i also got porcupine trees newist album and it rocks i love track 3 great song. do you like the wall, a few tracks on the newalbum sound like they are influenced by the Wall?


I really found the Fred Albright book "Contemporary Studies for Snare Drum" good challenging stuff - and the jazz systems that can be applied to Ted Reed's "Syncopation". I studied some of Gary Chaffee's "Patterns" books and I really got a lot out of the first exercise in Gary Chester's "A New Breed".

Personally I wasn't influenced by "The Wall" maybe Steve Wilson was - you'd have to ask him.

Hi rendezvous_drummer

Congratulations on winning the MD Readers Poll Best Progressive Drummer award

many thanks to you and the other folks who have mentioned it.

Hi atman

1)How often do you play together when making new songs?
2)For how long do you play together?
3)Any suggestion which works on composition when playing in a band?


We get together for a writing session before each album. So in my case that's happed twice - before "Deadwing" and then before "Fear Of A Blank Planet" and each time we spent about a week here in my studio.

If you're going to write together by 'jamming' (or improvising) be careful to avoid the 30 minute jam in "E" where it starts out great but never really goes anywhere. Obviously it's harder to change chords if there's 3 people playing harmonic instruments - so when we find a jam we like - we record it quickly - and then try to write other sections based off that - and it's important to change the harmonic structure around in each new section otherwise everything just gets trapped in one key.

Hi mind_drummer

Thank's for taking time for live chat at zildjian Z-Club event. I have a little question, since you began playing along to old jazz album, do you plan in the future to form your own jazz/fusion band and explore this world ?

thanks - it was fun. I'd love to write and record some jazz in the future - I just need to find the right players and try to do something a little different. It such a well established format - I'd like to see if I could find a new angle on it - at least from the drumming side of things.

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Old 06-14-2007, 02:56 PM
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Greetings from Greece Mr. Harrison!!!

First of all I was pleased when I saw that you recommend Ted Reed's Syncopation for practicing as I study this book...

I saw the videos from musikmesse Frankfurt and I'm totally impressed by that weird 19/8 track!!! ( 7 - 7 - 5 )
while I was listening to the track and counting with my both hands... I thought that maybe you had in your ear-monitors a metronome playing that 7-7-5 pattern... I cannot explain this!!!! what was going on there??!

I was wondering how you come across these complicated ideas, such as Halo (2:26 this 17/8 thing!!!) or Sound of Muzak's
main groove...
Please can you share with us these moments of intensive inspiration??!!!
Always a challenge to understand and play these amazing uncommon grooves and rhythmic illusions... which I think I can manage them even though I lack technique...
Any advice for developing technique through these uneven fractions??
________

Come to Greece!!! PLEASE!!!!

And the last one,
why your 20" K Ride has the "K" logo at the bottom side instead of
a "Zildjian" logo like it has mine??

Excellent cymbal... amazing sound... perfect control...
Thank you for inspiring me buy that ride...

I hope that you can answer all them...
keep playing that great music...

Harry
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Old 06-14-2007, 03:24 PM
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I was wondering how you come across these complicated ideas, such as Halo (2:26 this 17/8 thing!!!) or Sound of Muzak's
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Harry: Check out the Rhythmic Horizons DVD - both those tunes are explained in detail.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:12 PM
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Hi harry_GR

yes as Sol Good mentioned I go through Halo and Sound Of Muzak in detail on my DVD Rhythmic Horizons.

I saw the videos from musikmesse Frankfurt and I'm totally impressed by that weird 19/8 track!!! ( 7 - 7 - 5 )
while I was listening to the track and counting with my both hands... I thought that maybe you had in your ear-monitors a metronome playing that 7-7-5 pattern... I cannot explain this!!!! what was going on there??!


I am listening to a click but really the thing that holds it together for me is the marimba pattern. I just sing that to myself and I don't get lost. Much nicer than counting.

why your 20" K Ride has the "K" logo at the bottom side instead of
a "Zildjian" logo like it has mine??


that's a very good question - and I don't know the answer to that. Maybe someone at www.cymbalholic.com would know.

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Old 06-14-2007, 08:02 PM
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Harry, is yours an old zildjian k or is it brand new?
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:40 PM
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I watch some of the videos of you on Drummerworld...

What kind of ride are you using? Looks like a 20" or 21" Zildjian, and it sounds like a rock ride or something thick.

I know you are a sonor player...do you have any of their older stuff? Signatures? Bronze Snares?
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:28 PM
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Hi cfdrumr,

if you were watching the videos to Plasson or Futile then the ride cymbal is indeed a Zildjian 20". I got it from my late drum teacher Joe Hodson who told me it was a late 1940's Avedis ride.Surprisingly it's a great rock cymbal and I've used it a lot on the last two Porcupine Tree albums.

I don't have any really old Sonor drums. I've got Designer, DeLight and SQ2.

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Old 06-15-2007, 01:39 PM
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Hi Gavin,

just a quick post to say the Download gig was fantastic.
PT, and especially yourself, never cease to amaze and entertain me.

cheers again.

Dave


p.s., any plans for a clinic in the UK this year???
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:51 PM
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Hi Dave,
thanks I'm glad you enjoyed it - as I mentioned to Jay.B it didn't feel like we were exactly storming the audience - but what the heck.

I have no plans for a UK clinic tour this year.

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Old 06-15-2007, 04:57 PM
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Hello Gavin!

First i have to say that you are such a great inspiration for me, and a lot of other drummers, congratulations on the MD award, truly deserved!
Now, for the question, on the track "Mother and Child Divided" you play a sick groove wich I can't nail, could you explain for me what's going on there? No worries if it's to much, but a transcription would be really cool.

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Old 06-15-2007, 06:25 PM
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Hey Gavin,

I've missed the live chat at Zildjian because I was busy.

But I was curiuos, is Zildjian gonna make their own version of your handmade bells?

That would be an honour right? Do you have patented them??


Greetz,
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:27 PM
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.... on the track "Mother and Child Divided" you play a sick groove wich I can't nail, could you explain for me what's going on there? No worries if it's to much, but a transcription would be really cool.
It's two bars of 4/4 - but inside that there's a pattern of 10/16 played three times plus 2/16ths on the end to make it up to two bars of 4/4. Sometimes I play a 16th note triplet on the bass drum over those last 2/16ths. The illusion is completed by accenting the quarter notes on the hi hat.

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Hi Drizzle,
I don't know if Zildjian will start making those bells.

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Old 06-16-2007, 03:25 AM
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Hi figure_02

It's two bars of 4/4 - but inside that there's a pattern of 10/16 played three times plus 2/16ths on the end to make it up to two bars of 4/4. Sometimes I play a 16th note triplet on the bass drum over those last 2/16ths. The illusion is completed by accenting the quarter notes on the hi hat.

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Old 06-17-2007, 12:05 AM
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Hi Gavin,

would it be possible to get your DVD sign after the show in Cologne,
that is if you still have any DVD left?
Would be really nice of you if you could find the time,
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Old 06-17-2007, 07:02 PM
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Hi DrumSound,
yes there will be DVD's at the show. Usually you can catch us after the concert.

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hi gavin,

i just came back from your open-air show in interlaken (greenfield festival).
we only went down there to see 5 songs (lol).

do you enjoy playing at festivals?
amazing how you played (lots of diffenrent breaks than on the dvd arriving s.). john wesley wasn't around. i will go friday to cologne to see the show, will he also be there?
and besides this, who is your favorite drummer?

ok gavin, see you on friday!

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Old 06-18-2007, 12:35 AM
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Hi Gavin, it's wonderful to have you reply constantly. I'm a big fan of yours and a big fan of Porcupine Tree. I have always marveled at your snare sound (and overall kit sound for that matter!) I am looking for a new snare and I would like to know which ones you play as it is very hard to find online or anywhere! Any tuning tips would be helpful too. Thank you.
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Holy cow... I've never listened to Porcupine Tree before tonight... I just bought and down loaded the last three albums. You my friend are on it for sure... Thanks for the inspiration.

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Old 06-18-2007, 10:07 AM
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gavin...you are truely amazing! I was listening to PT in the car today wiht my father (who was into you guys before I was; he is a guitarist) and he said this...

"how can guys even listen to Mike Portnoy? Compare him to gavin...gavin has soul, chops and plays the craziest stuff I've ever heard. Portnoy just plays the same crap over and over again; Gavin is always fresh!"

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Old 06-18-2007, 11:16 AM
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Gavin,

Question on recording - you're setup is well documented here so need to go there. Do you use any pre amps other than the ones in the Mackie? As I understand you run your mics into the Mackie->Two Rosetta 800s->Firewire into a G5. I want to do something similar, although I can't really afford two 800s I might try the Ensemble line from Apogee out - not as stellar sounding but half the cost. Still 8/8 in/out.

If you're getting that good of sound out of the Mackie I can pick a used one up for much less than I could assemble some good stand alone pre-amps. Also been hearing good thing about the Soundtrac Topaz boards and the pres in those.

I've pretty much also decided the Royer 121s are a must have no skimp area. Then again my first priority is to record rehearsals and deliver my in ears a good sequenced click you have going on so I can build this studio slow as I'm not making records in it.

Secondly I've begun the process of making my own clicks with your sound files and Logic Pro so I can play with our sequenced sounds live. Logic has QUITE the learning curve. How are you doing this effeciently? I've been pasting a bar of the click in time, then copying that bar to the next, etc- This doesn't seem like the best way to be using Logic!

Thanks for any insight as always,

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Old 06-18-2007, 12:03 PM
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U know it!!!! Gavin can play anything! No wonder Neil Peart himself has very high reguard 4 this drummer who has finally arrived in class & style!
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Old 06-18-2007, 01:56 PM
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Hi loveporcupine,

i just came back from your open-air show in interlaken (greenfield festival).
we only went down there to see 5 songs (lol).

do you enjoy playing at festivals?
amazing how you played (lots of diffenrent breaks than on the dvd arriving s.). john wesley wasn't around. i will go friday to cologne to see the show, will he also be there?


Glad you enjoyed the Interlaken show. I don't really like playing festivals myself. I try to play different from show to show - and yes John Wesley will be back with us for the European tour.

Hi Mustykat,

I am looking for a new snare and I would like to know which ones you play as it is very hard to find online or anywhere! Any tuning tips would be helpful too.

I play a few snares - it depends which recordings or videos you've heard.
At the moment I'm playing an SQ2 snare from my new Sonor set. It's 6 ply Birch - 14" x 5"
and has rounded bearing edges (like the old Gretsch shape). I also play
14x6 Cottonwood Sonor
12x5 Designer Sonor snare
14x5 Black Steel Sonor snare

and quite a few others.

The tuning varies depending on the tune - so I can't be that specific - sorry.

Hi JTRGR and cfdrumr - thanks for the kind comments.

Hi fromyesterday
I really like the sound of the Mackie Desk - I know they can be found quite cheap these days - they're a real bargain. I would pick the Neumann TLM103's over the Royers - I've had both for some time now and the Neumanns just sound amazing to me. The Royers are good too but not as versatile. Yes Logic has quite a learning curve on it - but I've been using it for 10 years now - so it seems pretty easy to me.
With those click sounds - I would put them into a virtual sampler (EXS 24) as individual samples assigned to separate notes of course - and then just write in the pattern you want as midi notes. Once you have a bar written - you can just press "L" for loop and it will play until the end of the song or until you interrupt it with another midi pattern or a stop. I'm sure you'll a lot of Logic questions if you're just getting started - you might want to join the Logic Users forum - there's a lot of folks over there who can guide you along.

Cheers
Gavin
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:40 PM
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hi gavin!

i came across porcupine tree and you about one year ago but within this year PT made it to be my favourite band and you to be my favourite drummer. i really love your playing!

what i want to ask:
since you joined the band in 2002, PT's music became harder and heavier, especially deadwing and fear of a blank planet. so, would you say that this is YOUR influence on the band?

i tried to get your dvd "rhytmic horizons" but it seems they don't have it here in austria. anyway, will it be available on the concert in amsterdam?

and how come there's no concert in austria this year :)) ??

So have fun in germany, we'll see at melkweg in amsterdam!!
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