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Old 10-12-2018, 05:23 AM
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I picked these up from a fellow member here while cruising eBay. Dig it: a 1960s Yamaha drum set!

I looked it up, Yamaha started making drums in 1967, so these could be any year after that through the 70s. The model number is C200. It consists of a 14x20 bass drum, 8x12 rack tom, and 14x14 floor tom. Some online photos I've seen show a matching snare that may have been included when you purchased new. I believe they called this "red thunder" or something like that.

This was from back in the day when "made in Japan" wasn't as cool as it is now. However, what surprised me was the shells on the inside, and maybe this is only that one ply, but the plies are running horizontal around the inside. A bit of nostalgia this is because I once owned an old beat up Stewart drum kit, which was just like this one (but much more beat up), and those were fun days having a really cheap Japanese kit that could just get thrashed (which is what I did to it). These Yamahas are likely a step-up from the ol' Stewarts, but from that era when MIJ kits were really cheap and untrustworthy.

But, I'm gonna put new heads on these, patch some shell holes from someone who decided to drill them, and maybe start using these as a rehearsal kit, or a kit that can literally live in the passenger cab of my truck so I'm never without a set of drums. It's got the cool ancient Gretsch-type spurs from Charlie Watt's 1957 Gretsch kit (if the drum doesn't fly away from me, I'll leave them. I'm surprised at how well the metal bits work. Each lug so far has been really smooth and everything is tightened well. There's literally no rust. It's like this kit sat in somebody's smoke-free home for 50 years!

If the bass drum sounds ok with the metal hoops, I'll keep them. I was planning on using wood hoops, but I should see what it sounds like first. So I know what I'm doing this Friday.

But Saturday is the Hollywood Drum Show, so I have to show my face there for the first time too.

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Old 10-12-2018, 06:45 AM
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Beautiful kit, that wrap and hardware are in great condition. I've always wanted to sit behind one of those old Yamaha kits but I've never seen one

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Old 10-12-2018, 07:39 AM
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You may want to consider rigidity when selecting bass drum hoops with only 6 lugs on the drum.
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Iím really curious as to how it sounds after you get new heads on it.
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:17 PM
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If the drum creeps away, you can run a rope from one spur, around your throne, and back to the other spur. It won't go anywhere after that.

Cool looking kit. Can't believe how nice it is being possibly 50 years old.
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:25 PM
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You may want to consider rigidity when selecting bass drum hoops with only 6 lugs on the drum.
Youíre right. Iím gonna try it with the metal hoops first. If it works out well Iíll keep using those. Iíve just upgraded the bass drum claws and the spur legs will be replaced with longer ones with nicer rubber tips. This is gonna be a fun project.
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The best bass drum anchor. I had one of these back in the 60's.

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...ss-drum-anchor
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The best bass drum anchor. I had one of these back in the 60's.

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I had one of those years ago! I hope I donít need to get another one. Heck, Charlie Watts doesnít use one, maybe Iíll be that lucky ;)
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Nice looking kit Bo. Exactly what number kit would this be-do you have any idea? Just curious. Post a video after you get it all dialed in so we can hear it-Please.....


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If the drum creeps away, you can run a rope from one spur, around your throne, and back to the other spur. It won't go anywhere after that.

Cool looking kit. Can't believe how nice it is being possibly 50 years old.
Oh I'm way over 50 years old and I look pretty good too. I know it's hard to believe.
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Old 10-12-2018, 11:38 PM
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That is incredibly disturbing! Any Cadbury creme eggs in that basket?
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Nice kit Bo. Great as a second kit or rehearsal.
I've owned several Yamaha kits from this era, one with wood hoops (D20 kit) and a couple C200 kits with the metal hoops, and you know - just use the heads and tuning you normally like and I find they are a non-issue, appearance notwithstanding.

But then I don't mind the look of metal hoops either, as long as they aren't rusty. Isn't it amazing how well this 50 year old chrome holds up ? I know, environmental issues with the 'old way', too bad modern electroplating doesn't hold up as well it seems.

In my opinion, those 'tail light' lugs are the nicest ones Yamaha ever made. And they used that style from the late 60's right up to the mid 80's in the Tour/8000 range. A classic and certainly a standout amongst the MIJ stencil kits.
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Just FYI, that wrap is called Red Ripple, here's another picture
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