sticksnstonesrus
Silver Member
- your kit in your IEMs (or whatever sound support you use - monitor, nothing)
- your kit while someone else is playing it and you're standing on the 'outside'
- your kit through the board (compressors, big bottom, processed & tweaked at a venue or in the studio)
My example. I get the chance to listen to recorded FB Live productions of the church service I play and a lot of times, I hate the online mix....but I know that FB Live is getting the feed directly from the house board, which for the drum mix is the drum mics exclusively...but its not mixed further than that. Certainly not what those in the church seating were hearing (acoustically) - which I have heard and the live mix is phenomenal. I take that with an ounce of faith that the current mixes (in my ears, and when I tune the house kit and my snare sound) is going to sound good for the service but still terrible for the FB Live production. In review of those times when I'm not hearing the kit while playing but from what it's producing, I did detune my snare batter (sounded too high and dry) and tuned up the lower floor toms for more sustain (very flat).
So curious...How long did it take you to learn how to decipher how your kit sounds from opposing views/angles. Obviously, drums sound different on the throne while playing than they do when you're listening to them from the audience perspective and even more after they've been manipulated through tech. At what point do we just accept that they're going to sound trashy in IEM mixes but have faith they capture the killer sound you think you have it tuned for at a show? How much can you lean on sound engineering to have your back to make it right?
Thoughts...
Andy
- your kit while someone else is playing it and you're standing on the 'outside'
- your kit through the board (compressors, big bottom, processed & tweaked at a venue or in the studio)
My example. I get the chance to listen to recorded FB Live productions of the church service I play and a lot of times, I hate the online mix....but I know that FB Live is getting the feed directly from the house board, which for the drum mix is the drum mics exclusively...but its not mixed further than that. Certainly not what those in the church seating were hearing (acoustically) - which I have heard and the live mix is phenomenal. I take that with an ounce of faith that the current mixes (in my ears, and when I tune the house kit and my snare sound) is going to sound good for the service but still terrible for the FB Live production. In review of those times when I'm not hearing the kit while playing but from what it's producing, I did detune my snare batter (sounded too high and dry) and tuned up the lower floor toms for more sustain (very flat).
So curious...How long did it take you to learn how to decipher how your kit sounds from opposing views/angles. Obviously, drums sound different on the throne while playing than they do when you're listening to them from the audience perspective and even more after they've been manipulated through tech. At what point do we just accept that they're going to sound trashy in IEM mixes but have faith they capture the killer sound you think you have it tuned for at a show? How much can you lean on sound engineering to have your back to make it right?
Thoughts...
Andy