DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > Drum Technique

Drum Technique Tips - Tricks - Practice - Rudiments - Educational DVDs & Books.....

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 06-01-2017, 08:09 AM
My Story My Story is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 11
Default Question about Stick Angles Relative to the Drum

I recently bought a book, it is "Stick technique" by Bill Bachman.

In the topic "Stick Angles Relative to the Drum", he mention "Both sticks should point down toward the drum at about a 10 degree ange", "The flatter the angle the sticks are relative to the drum, the more rebound. The steeper the angle, the less rebound. While it might seem that the more rebound the better, it's good to have some leverage over the stick for when you want to play down int the drum or to set yourself up for downstrokes that stop lower to the drum. The 10-degree angle gives you this leverage while still maintaining great rebound."

Why is 10-degree not 0-degree?
And I don't know What relationship between leverage and 10-degree rebound?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-01-2017, 10:06 AM
Headbanger Headbanger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Ireland
Posts: 136
Default Re: Question about Stick Angles Relative to the Drum

I think a 0 degree angle would cause your stick to get caught on the rim of the drum.

Apart from that, he seems to be saying that a little bit of downward pressure will prevent the sticks from flying back up in an uncontrolled way. He's talking about downstrokes specifically? So the stick is not supposed to rebound back up to it's original position? (I don't have the book so maybe I'm misunderstanding).
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-01-2017, 10:39 AM
GruntersDad's Avatar
GruntersDad GruntersDad is online now
Administrator - Mayor
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gulf Coast Seminole, Florida
Posts: 22,104
Default Re: Question about Stick Angles Relative to the Drum

You have to take into account your hand is holding the stick so 0 degrees is not really attainable. Your hands would have to be below the drum and since the rim is above the head there has to be some angle.
__________________
johnny
Suum cuique tribuere....
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-01-2017, 10:54 AM
Odd-Arne Oseberg's Avatar
Odd-Arne Oseberg Odd-Arne Oseberg is online now
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Sykkylven, Møre og Romsdal, Norway
Posts: 3,386
Default Re: Question about Stick Angles Relative to the Drum

Yes rims, and even on a pad the shaft or shoulder would hit before the tip of the stick.

I've seen some classical guys teach someting tat looks more lik 70 degrees LOL..., but anyway...

Quote:
And I don't know What relationship between leverage and 10-degree rebound?
Rebound is desireable and you do whatever gives you the control you want/need. It's not math and it's not rocket science. Just work on it and evaluate what works.
__________________
So, kick drum...or...bass drum? I'll tell you what. If it's 18" or less, it's a FOOT TOM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-01-2017, 04:10 PM
toddbishop toddbishop is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,049
Default Re: Question about Stick Angles Relative to the Drum

I don't care about rebound, I care about sound. Contacting the head at a flatter angle gives a better sound. I have no idea what exact degree of angle I use-- I just come in as flat as I can, without hitting rim shots-- unless I want to hit rim shots.
__________________
Visit Cruise Ship Drummer! - a drumming blog | 2017 CSD! Book of the Blog now available
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-01-2017, 10:45 PM
GruntersDad's Avatar
GruntersDad GruntersDad is online now
Administrator - Mayor
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gulf Coast Seminole, Florida
Posts: 22,104
Default Re: Question about Stick Angles Relative to the Drum

I have found round tips allow a better sound than oval tipped sticks at all angles. Using oval and being too high leaves only a very small bit of tip hitting the drum. I always try to get round or acorn when possible
__________________
johnny
Suum cuique tribuere....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-01-2017, 11:15 PM
Dr_Watso's Avatar
Dr_Watso Dr_Watso is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,334
Default Re: Question about Stick Angles Relative to the Drum

Quote:
Originally Posted by GRUNTERSDAD View Post
I have found round tips allow a better sound than oval tipped sticks at all angles. Using oval and being too high leaves only a very small bit of tip hitting the drum. I always try to get round or acorn when possible
I have found the opposite personally. Lots of the bead-tip sticks have a really anemic small sound and the acorn or larger tips bring a bit more meat to the note, this is more noticeable on cymbals and especially the ride.

Guess it depends what you're going for, but in all cases, a round tip shouldn't be a crutch for incorrect stick angles and technique. There's more than just the tip shape involved with the overall sound.
__________________
"I always wanted to be remembered for; being honest. Nothing else is worth a damn." - Lemmy
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 02:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com