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Old 07-15-2009, 05:14 PM
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ok, so ive been drumming for 5 years now and have started playing a few shows

only a handful have been miced but it wasnt on my kit (except cymbals) due to not being able to take my kit out of the drum and the gigs were in germany

im just wondering about the sound of drums when miced

i no its probably a REALLY stupid question
but do the drums sound exactly the same miced as non, just louder??

as i find that my drums sound really really nice, but i havent been lucky enough to here that many nice kits


so im kinda worried that my tuning/muffling will sound really bad when played in different venues.


can any of u guys shed any light on the matter?
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:03 PM
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The sound will be different however if approached correctly can and should sound very good, I would have to say that it depends the quality of the microphones and the way you set them up as well as the sound man's abilities, . I can tell you that drums are very often over miced, I recommend one for the bass drum (not inside but around 1 to 2 feet away), one in between the snare and the hi-hat and 2 overhead panned left and right. This will create a more honest sound for you and is probably the best way to mic drums live or in the studio. Again much depends on the microphones themselves.
Hope this helps you out, good luck and good playing.
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:35 PM
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The sound will be different however if approached correctly can and should sound very good, I would have to say that it depends the quality of the microphones and the way you set them up as well as the sound man's abilities, . I can tell you that drums are very often over miced, I recommend one for the bass drum (not inside but around 1 to 2 feet away), one in between the snare and the hi-hat and 2 overhead panned left and right. This will create a more honest sound for you and is probably the best way to mic drums live or in the studio. Again much depends on the microphones themselves.
Hope this helps you out, good luck and good playing.
thanks :D

how do i get the bass drum sound like i here in a lot of metal bands
that sharp and clean thud when playing to help drive the song

is that just a mic right inside facing directly to the spot the beater hits??

also, what about tom micing?
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:58 PM
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thanks :D

how do i get the bass drum sound like i here in a lot of metal bands
that sharp and clean thud when playing to help drive the song

is that just a mic right inside facing directly to the spot the beater hits??

also, what about tom micing?
In my experiences, it's much easier to amplify a sound that is already there with a microphone, than it is to have to 'dial-up' the sound using compression, gating and eq. Yes, you will generally get more attack, the more inside the drum and pointed towards the beater the mic is. But again, it still comes down to tuning.

My question for you would be: Does your bass drum already have that sound sans mic? There are plenty of players in DW who have good knowledge on how to achieve the sound you're looking for thru tuning.

Also, I agree with Bruce: generally drums do tend to be over-miked - this can create other issues like phase cancellation for instance. However, for toms, you can certainly have one mic on each, try to have the diaphragm aimed towards the center of the drum, and not the edge. If you have the luxury of putting a bit of distance between the mic and drum head, so much the better, cause the sound picked up by the mic will have opened up more and be closer to what you hear. As far as I know, nobody listens to toms with their ears right at the very rim pointing down the edge. Not pretty...
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:08 PM
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That's about it, if your bass drum already has "That Sound" then the mic does it's job much easier because normally you are wanting to get the sound of your drum and if possible not the sound of the electronics; It's like audio gear, you want to hear the music not the equipment. If on the other hand you are trying to manufacture a sound that is not there then that comes down to the sound board. I still wouldn't put a mic inside the drum, there seems to be no point. If you are leaning that way perhaps an electric kit is the way to go.
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:30 PM
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thanks :D

how do i get the bass drum sound like i here in a lot of metal bands
that sharp and clean thud when playing to help drive the song

is that just a mic right inside facing directly to the spot the beater hits??

also, what about tom micing?
Check out this article.

http://homerecording.about.com/od/re...glyn_johns.htm
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:49 PM
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I forgot this one as well, these should help you in your quest.

http://www.blaxploitation.com/drums/
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