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Old 11-30-2012, 08:48 PM
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Hi there, I've been following the forum for a time, and now decided to start posting!..
I decided to begin learning something about drum theory, I understand the basics about time signature, notation, and other concepts, but I've got trouble knowing what's happening on a song!.. So i decided to claim for help!, I have not a drum teacher cause I'm right now studying an engineering, you know. Ain't nobody got time for that!, but still, I love drums.

So here it is!.. Right in the minute 3:06. I know it may be the simplest thing in the world. But I'm really new into understanding this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QhhnUCEKVA

I appreciate your help, community!
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:34 AM
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I am new too but that sounds like a half time shuffle. He went from straight eighths on the hats to playing a shuffle at half the speed.

Someone make sure I am right please.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:33 AM
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A little tricky and challenging.

It's not half time shuffle,

it can be counted in 4/4, but try to count it as :

two bars of 3/4 and one bar of 2/4, then repeat.
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Old 12-02-2012, 01:19 PM
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No surprise that I would be wrong- anyone out there seal this deal up with a third opinion?
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:37 PM
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If you wanna play this rythm you have to feel it and just play the 2nd snare in time. Drumming is much about feeling. If you don't feel the drums, the cymbals, the groove and these things you can not play drums. And this drum fill is a real feeling-thing, I think.
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Old 12-02-2012, 05:54 PM
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Oh i see it's 4/4, i've found trouble playing it with the band cause it sounds too empty or robotic, i've tried to keep the quarter time on hihat and it's very difficult!.. You know what i mean? That shaker makes the whole thing groovy!.. Oh and thanks by the way!
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:41 AM
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Oh i see it's 4/4, i've found trouble playing it with the band cause it sounds too empty or robotic, i've tried to keep the quarter time on hihat and it's very difficult!.. You know what i mean? That shaker makes the whole thing groovy!.. Oh and thanks by the way!
Like I said, try to count it as follow (3 stands for 3/4, 2 stands for 2/4)

- (end of double-time swing part) and then:
3, 3, 2
3, 3, 2
3, 3, 2
3, 3, 2
- then two bars of 4/4 (saxophone alone)
- back to 4/4 groove.
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:00 PM
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Heeey many thanks Alain! Certainly it's much easier counting like that! That's what i love about theory!.. Maybe i'll post later the results of your help, community! (video) hehe
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Old 12-03-2012, 10:11 PM
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I'm just hearing a 4/4 with the second snare hit on the "and" of four. It's really not that complex if you count along.

EDIT: disregard. I was listening to the wrong part of the song. Apologies.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:12 PM
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I'm just hearing a 4/4 with the second snare hit on the "and" of four. It's really not that complex if you count along.
Yes it also works in 4/4, but there's no snare hit on the and of 4 ;-)
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Sorry I was listening to the wrong part.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:44 PM
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It's not that I like this music so much, but I took a few minutes to make a rough drum chart, just because I enjoy tricky rhythms. So here it is.
Ii's in 4/4, although I still hear 3+3+2 inside of 4/4.

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Old 12-05-2012, 04:18 PM
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It's not that I like this music so much, but I took a few minutes to make a rough drum chart, just because I enjoy tricky rhythms. So here it is.
Ii's in 4/4, although I still hear 3+3+2 inside of 4/4.

Have fun!
Omg you went too far, thank you! I appreciate it, a lot. This puts everything clearer.
How did you do the drum chart?
I mostly like jazz, latin jazz, I guess this song is Fusion, and it's oooold
what music do you like, then?
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:10 PM
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No problem, I did it for the fun of it, but I barely listened to the whole song.
I enjoy many styles in fact.
I use Sibelius to write music.
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