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Old 05-17-2011, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Your votes please! Short or long sustain.

I like sustain.
I don't like dead sounding drums.

Hell, I like sustain even on the bass drum. I run an Emperor on it, so go figure. :)

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Old 05-18-2011, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: Your votes please! Short or long sustain.

Definitely prefer the Spauns. Those Yamahas sound absolutely terrible to my ears.
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Old 05-18-2011, 04:27 AM
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I believe in getting the most out of my kits in terms of tone, so I tune to the shells and try to keep both the batter and resonant heads very close in pitch to get the most sustain.

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Old 05-18-2011, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: Your votes please! Short or long sustain.

I tune my drums according to the music that I will be playing (as almost all of us do). But a guiding principle of mine is to use tunings which have more sustain that what I may like hearing from behind the drums, although I like really open tunings as much as I do muffled. In unmiced situations open-higher tunings (on all drums, including bass drum) fill the room better and prevent the drums from being perceived as boxy.

I think of it like this as far as tuning combinations go (by high and low I mean moderate tensions that fall closer to the extremes):
Open-High
Open-Low
Muffled-High
Muffled-Low

There are obviously degrees of each but as far as "sounds" and general concepts I think these cover the bases. But for general purpose playing an Open-Low/High tuning, I feel, gives the most flexibility because it is much easier to calm down a drum than excite it. And like I said, room acoustics a paramount to determining the tuning. Head selection, drum size, bearing edge type and any other variable that plays a role in the overall sound of a drum are important but those are more-or-less dependent on what kind of room the drums are in. Changing the room is normally never an option.
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Old 05-18-2011, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: Your votes please! Short or long sustain.

To answer your question as you stated I prefer sustain, I find that once a bass player kicks in you need the sustain or it does not ring through I also find I can find more variety from a drum. Strangely enough I had EC2 heads on my toms and they sounded great but did have a fast decay, I replaced them with Emperors and there is actually more sustain which I did not expect from a 2 ply. Having said that if I am in a small room with acoustic guitars etc. I will sometimes throw on e-rings to reduce sustain. But my vote is sustain in general.
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Old 05-18-2011, 07:09 PM
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To answer your question as you stated I prefer sustain, I find that once a bass player kicks in you need the sustain or it does not ring through I also find I can find more variety from a drum. .
This is a terrific point. I think if you wanted to, you could make a drum with sustain sound 'dead' by burying the stick into the head, but you cant do the opposite.

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Old 05-18-2011, 07:10 PM
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To answer your question as you stated I prefer sustain, I find that once a bass player kicks in you need the sustain or it does not ring through I also find I can find more variety from a drum. .
This is a terrific point. I think you could make a drum with sustain sound 'dead' by burying the stick into the head, but you cant make a dead drum ring.

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Old 05-18-2011, 07:16 PM
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Default Re: Your votes please! Short or long sustain.

It depends on the miking for a soundman - more sustain is more opportunity for feedback. Close miking means more conflicting overtones. most soundmen would prefer for us to use electronic drums and everyone else run direct, meaning no speaker amps on stage, to eliminate feedback.

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Old 05-20-2011, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Your votes please! Short or long sustain.

Short sustain for snare and kick drum, and long for the toms.

Anyway, I still haven't played live on stage. I only play drums at home, so I prefer those sustains accordingly: dry snare, bouncy heavy kick drum, and classic 'dive' sound of toms. :)
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