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Old 03-16-2015, 11:21 PM
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Hello fellow drummers!
I've been playing drums a couple of years back but then had to sell them (long story) and now I've decided to buy everything back again and all new!
So it's gonna be a new start for me but that's what I want and what I need to do ;)

so I just wanted some more oppinions before I go into purchase which will probably happen at the end of that week and will be about 2500 which is a solid sum of money...so it has to be well spent ;)

I decided to go for Tama (that's what the local shop imports) and I believe that the new superstar series is not far behind from starclassis.
Those specific drums caught my eyes and will probably be mine ;)

http://www.bam-music.com/sl/bobni-to...r-limited.html

what are your oppinions on drums?

Next topic, cymbals...I used to play K custom but that local shop "changed" importing from Zildjian to Sabian (no idea why) and they also have 25% discount on all Sabian cymbals now! They also have a much bigger stock of them compared to Zildjians so I guess I'm gonna have to go with them...
What is the comparison to K custom? HHX? I know I'm gonna have to try them out but I will not be mixing brands, series possibly.

I will be playing pop-rock if it should help.

Last but not least, what heads do you suggest?
Coated or not?
g1/ambassador or g2/emperor?

Thank you for all future answers, hopefully some good ones ;)
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:51 AM
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Welcome to the forum.

I understand your desire to buy all new. My opinion:

Come up with a list of all the pieces in a spreadsheet. Something like THIS.

Once you have a plan, Take two weeks to look at some used gear that is either a full step-up (Tama Starclassic), or half the price. If you find something, great! If not, you're not losing anything.

Whenever I receive a new drum, I typically put a coated ambassador on top and a clear on the bottom. This allows me to assess the sound and determine if I need a thicker head, or an uncoated head to open it up, etc.

Take your time, get the most drum for the money that you can. Check for clearance/discount items frequently.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:15 AM
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The new Tama Superstars are a very good semi pro set. I know they now offer all maple and I have read good reviews. Kamak is correct, you can probably get a used Starclassic set for about the same price, but I do understand wanting to buy something new that only you have owned. The superstars will do pretty much anything you want them to and would be good in all situations. I find the semi pro maple sets to be pretty great for what you are paying for them.

Sabian HH and HHX are the equivalent to Zildjian K and K custom.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:11 PM
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Agreeing with Superman and Kamak. Have your radar set on any and all clearances, sales, open box, . . . whatever. Buying a new set gives you an intoxicating feeling, but buying a used, in excellent shape set can save you a BUNDLE! The Superstars are nice, (I owned an older set before they were all maple and I really liked it), but a used Starclassic in good shape, would be tough to turn down.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:14 PM
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ok tnx guys...

but if the new superstars are all maple..what is the big difference between superstars and SCs?
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:07 PM
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8 lugs on the 14" tom for a start. I had a 6 lug 14" tom on my old Rockstar Custom and it was a pain for losing it's tuning in comparison with 8 lug drums I've owned.
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:30 PM
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8 lugs on the 14" tom for a start. I had a 6 lug 14" tom on my old Rockstar Custom and it was a pain for losing it's tuning in comparison with 8 lug drums I've owned.
And possibly the Starclassics have North American maple (not saying it's a world of difference sound wise, just that they may charge more for it). There might be more lacquer on the Starclassic finishes and the Star Cast mounts I believe are a little different. If those are the two sets you're focused on, you'll get a nice set either way. All the drum companies are offering more features in a given price range than what they used to some years back, so sometimes it's tough to make a decision.
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Old 03-18-2015, 12:04 AM
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ok so the drums will be those I posted on link, tama superstar hyperdrive, I believe they are all maple now.

including:
18x22" Bass
7x12" Tom
12x14" Floor Tom
14x16" Floor Tom
5.5x14" Metalworks Snare (MT1455DBN)

Cymbals:
will see on friday when I'm going to buy everything cause still need a bit of testing but 100% Sabian (25% discount), very probably HHX series.
Any reccomendations about the series? I'm not too familliar with Sabian yet as I used to play Zildjian only... Will go for 14" hats, 20" (21?) ride, 18" and 19" crashes, splash not sure yet (probably 8 or 10") and if enough money, china.

Heads:
bass: PS3
toms: emperor over ambassador (coated or clear?)
snare: not sure yet probably ambassador?

any advice is more than apreciated ;)
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Old 03-23-2015, 06:54 PM
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here we go guys, I got them!
Tama superstar hyperdrive.
They are birch shells, thought they were all maple (as was stated on their webpage but hey, will have to do I guess) ;)

also bought 2 extra cymbal stands, and tama 1st chair. Else came with drums.

Cymbals (Sabian)
hats: 14" HHX Legacy
splash: 10" AAX O-zone
crash 1: 18" AAX Xplosion fast
crash 2: 18" HHX Xplosion
ride: 21" HH Raw Bell Dry
crash 3: 18" AAX O-zone (instead of china, sounds better than china if you ask me)

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Old 03-23-2015, 07:40 PM
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She's a beaut!

Good job.
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Old 03-23-2015, 07:51 PM
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Yeah, looks good. Darn nice cymbals, too, looks like you did well. I'm diggin' it. (Fingers snapping sounds).
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Nice looking kit. Congrats. And welcome to the forum.
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Old 03-23-2015, 10:59 PM
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That's a great looking kit - both drums and cymbals.

Are those die cast rims? Your Superstars look a lot different than the new ones available in the US.
They don't have die cast rims or full length lugs. They look like this: http://www.tama.com/superstar_classic/index.html

Unless they're a different series or something, I like yours better.
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:38 PM
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That's a great looking kit - both drums and cymbals.

Are those die cast rims? Your Superstars look a lot different than the new ones available in the US.
They don't have die cast rims or full length lugs. They look like this: http://www.tama.com/superstar_classic/index.html

Unless they're a different series or something, I like yours better.
I think those are the superstars from a year or two ago. I remember looking seriously at them, and REALLY digging the die cast hoops and full length lugs
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Old 03-24-2015, 12:10 AM
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The Superstars that I had 8 years ago or so had the long lugs, also. The lugs I think were called sound bridge lugs. The lugs don't touch the shell the whole way, just where a "regular" lug would touch the shell. Mine had zinc die-cast hoops also. Not a bad set for the money for what you get.
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Old 03-24-2015, 12:17 AM
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Cool set and very good cymbals. I'm a huge fan of AAX, HH and HHX. I believe the US Superstars came with full length lugs up until a couple years ago. Those were on birch kits.Now they have been redesigned. Awesome kit either way. Enjoy!
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Outstanding looking kit! I have always been a fan of white drums. So classy.
Also dig the shorter stack toms and your choice in cymbals. Great kit you got goin there!!
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Old 10-09-2016, 03:27 PM
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necro thread revival ;)
just wanted to upload 3 more pics of them and wanted to let U know that I made a good decision regarding droums and cymbals I believe ;)





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@OP: Looking good, glad you're happy! I'm positive that, at this point, you do not miss the money you "lost" by not buying used!


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That's a great looking kit - both drums and cymbals.

Are those die cast rims? Your Superstars look a lot different than the new ones available in the US.
They don't have die cast rims or full length lugs. They look like this: http://www.tama.com/superstar_classic/index.html

Unless they're a different series or something, I like yours better.
The maple Superstar Classics never came to Europe, but instead the birch Hyperdrives like the ones the OP bought, got their life prolonged over here (they're still advertising new kits for sale).

Wonder why. Maybe it's because we're more metal-oriented this side of the Atlantic?
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