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Old 02-08-2010, 02:10 AM
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Default Superbowl Halftime - Zak Starkey

Zak seemed to get a whole lot more screen time than most drummers. Maybe Pete and Roger are too scary to look at anymore...
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Must have been the red, white, and blue Zildjians he was playing. I can't wait to see who first asks where they can buy them. I'm sure there will be many threads started on this. Walmart and get some spray paint.
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Haha, yeah. Probably not for sale. I'd guess it's better than spraypaint. Likely the same technology they used on the pitch blacks.
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...and what about his kit? Ultra-clean and fit the gig perfectly. Kinda makes me pine for a set of acrylics...

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At least the cymbals carried out the theme of the light show around the stage. They looked huge too 22" maybe.
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...and what about his kit? Ultra-clean and fit the gig perfectly. Kinda makes me pine for a set of acrylics...

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I agree, great kit, but isn't it a sin to play anything but clear heads on acrylic set? The opaque heads looked okay too me though.
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That is the only reason they were painted. They are not a new line I'm sure, but someone will ask. mark my word.
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What I'm most surprised about is that Pete never tried to smash his guitar into those beautiful drums.
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It's a little difficult to tell on the clear drums that they were DW drums.
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It's a little difficult to tell on the clear drums that they were DW drums.
It was but when they showed some close ups you could slightly see the emblem. But I wasn't aware DW made acrylic drums thou.gh
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Must have been the red, white, and blue Zildjians he was playing. I can't wait to see who first asks where they can buy them. I'm sure there will be many threads started on this. Walmart and get some spray paint.

That is the only reason they were painted. They are not a new line I'm sure, but someone will ask. mark my word.
Haha i just went on right now to ask omg. Nah just kidding but i was wondering where they came from. If they use the aweful Pitch Black formula then why did they sound alright (Except maybe for the hi hats haha)?
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:47 AM
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Found a link on the mysterious Zildjians.

http://zildjian.com/en-US/news/newsD...d2?newsID=1956
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I don't care what anyone says, those were some straight up BA cymbals. One of the coolest ideas I've seen in a while. I didn't really dig the whole abridged version of the Who, though, I want to hear the whole song!!! Not the just the CSI theme song cut lol
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Yeah its kinda disappointing that they could only play short segments...

How do you guys think they performed overall?
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I don't think Zak's playing was live.

some of his hits and patterns didn't match up...

only persons that seemed live was Pete and Roger... humm...

weird DW kit. acrylic with DW badge with pacific lugs. nice looking kit regardless.
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It was but when they showed some close ups you could slightly see the emblem. But I wasn't aware DW made acrylic drums thou.gh
The badges were obviously DW, the lugs were Pacific Platinum series, and i'm sure any drum company would make an acrylic kit for a high profile band especially if they are going to be played at the Superbowl.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:19 AM
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I agree, great kit, but isn't it a sin to play anything but clear heads on acrylic set? The opaque heads looked okay too me though.
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Zak seemed to get a whole lot more screen time than most drummers. Maybe Pete and Roger are too scary to look at anymore...
it was great seeing the drummer for a change, sadly Zak was the most exciting guy on stage!

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At least the cymbals carried out the theme of the light show around the stage. They looked huge too 22" maybe.
the cymbals looked good actually, didnt they? and i believe he plays a 22" K Brilliant Crash/Ride, a pair of 21" K Crash/Rides leftside and rightside and then 15" K Light Hats, they sure sounded great!

they definetly showed their age the boys did, but a decent show...
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Found a link on the mysterious Zildjians.

http://zildjian.com/en-US/news/newsD...d2?newsID=1956
Yeah real mysterious (whooboy!) They only advertised them on the company website. Duh!
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I don't think Zak's playing was live.

some of his hits and patterns didn't match up...

only persons that seemed live was Pete and Roger... humm...

weird DW kit. acrylic with DW badge with pacific lugs. nice looking kit regardless.
U R wrong. Everything from the national anthem on through was live. I was surprised by it, but pleasantly so.
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U R wrong. Everything from the national anthem on through was live. I was surprised by it, but pleasantly so.
you think so? I don't know... there was a part where he was doing a 16th note pattern on the snare and it wasn't what was playing in the song... also he was doing some double bass patterns that didn't match up to what was playing.

Roger's singing seemed live as well as Pete's guitar(he actually hit a wrong note in the middle of a break).

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I reeally wanted to like that. I like the Who. A lot.

That wasn't the Who.

Roger was ... awful. And a lot of Townshend's playing was very sloppy. Zack was the best thing on stage, but not nearly enough to save the show.
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Found a link on the mysterious Zildjians.

http://zildjian.com/en-US/news/newsD...d2?newsID=1956
Nice find.

I dug the cymbals! I'm sure they sound terrible in person, but you can't really tell through the music. But they looked cool!.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:30 AM
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They've had them for a while.

Tommy Lee has a red acrylic, and Thomas Pridgen had been seen with a blue acrylic set.
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I reeally wanted to like that. I like the Who. A lot.

That wasn't the Who.

Roger was ... awful. And a lot of Townshend's playing was very sloppy. Zack was the best thing on stage, but not nearly enough to save the show.
Agreed, liked Zak's set and cymbals though
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I reeally wanted to like that. I like the Who. A lot.

That wasn't the Who.

Roger was ... awful. And a lot of Townshend's playing was very sloppy. Zack was the best thing on stage, but not nearly enough to save the show.
Another vote for this post. That was embarrasing. Have they run out of acts from the 60s-70s yet?

And to Pete and Roger from a lifelong Who fan. For the love of God please stop!
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It was probably all live considering the flack they recieved last year.

As far as the medley as a setlist choice, I liked it. It allowed for them to actually play many of their hits instead of just having to choose two or three. Fans of "Tommy" at least got parts of Pinball Wizard and See Me Feel Me, which probably wouldn't have made the cut.

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Found a link on the mysterious Zildjians.

http://zildjian.com/en-US/news/newsD...d2?newsID=1956
Yeah, I saw that the day before the game; made me more curious to how they were gonna look/sound on stage. Best I could tell from TV audio, they sounded pretty good!

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The badges were obviously DW, the lugs were Pacific Platinum series, and i'm sure any drum company would make an acrylic kit for a high profile band especially if they are going to be played at the Superbowl.
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They've had them for a while. Tommy Lee has a red acrylic, and Thomas Pridgen had been seen with a blue acrylic set.

And DW doesn't actually make acrylic shells, so I wonder who they get them from...? Quite odd, the DW badges and Pacific lugs... Isn't Pridgen a Sonor guy? Did he switch?

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It was probably all live considering the flack they recieved last year.
Eh? Something in the Springsteen performance wasn't performed live? Details, please...
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I don't think Zak's playing was live.

some of his hits and patterns didn't match up...

only persons that seemed live was Pete and Roger... humm...

weird DW kit. acrylic with DW badge with pacific lugs. nice looking kit regardless.
He was definitely playing live, although at times I was surprised how weedily he was hitting those cymbals. I would have thought giving them a good smacking would have been appropriate for the size of the room.

Thought Pinball Wizard was a little rough. Daltry's voice seemed to youthen as the set progressed.
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I'm a FAN OF THE WHO...Most of the show sounded very bad(it fact they sucked)... Drumming was the only thing that sounded good. Great Game! Denis
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My expectations are never too high when it comes to SuperBowls slick halftime show. Gotta wonder how much money the bandmembers made....
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My expectations are never too high when it comes to SuperBowls slick halftime show. Gotta wonder how much money the bandmembers made....
Me neither, most half time shows are a joke. I really dug the stage/light setup it had, very unique and cool. I'll admit I've never been a big fan of the who but it was an o.k. performance, better than the past few years in my book.

Saw the DW badges right away and thought, since when did DW start making acrylic kits???
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I don't think Zak's playing was live.

some of his hits and patterns didn't match up...

only persons that seemed live was Pete and Roger... humm...

weird DW kit. acrylic with DW badge with pacific lugs. nice looking kit regardless.
Thats funny, I honestly thought the first fill he played on camera was off. I really tried to watch closley after that and there was one rather loud crash cymbal someplace that was never that loud again, during Baba O'riley I think. Awesome drummer though, I like Zak.
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And DW doesn't actually make acrylic shells, so I wonder who they get them from...? Quite odd, the DW badges and Pacific lugs... Isn't Pridgen a Sonor guy? Did he switch?
I was told DW used Gold-N-Times acrylic shell for artist custom order but sadly Ray Ducoat, the "acrylicsmith" went sick & passed away and GnT had to cease it's operation. DW are probably using now RCI acrylic shell. Edit: which is true, Starkey kit is RCI shell.

BTW, Thomas Pridgen is a DW endorsee and used a custom DW acrylic.



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Eh? Something in the Springsteen performance wasn't performed live? Details, please...
Yeah. Apparently most of that performance (and possibly all of them uptil then) was prerecoreded. They did it because setting up a live gig was nearly impossible in the time provided. This was just what I heard so I don't know how true it was. But you could tell that last night was live. At least some of it.
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Zak seemed to get a whole lot more screen time than most drummers. Maybe Pete and Roger are too scary to look at anymore...
I see you guys really like talking about Zak's kit but my only thought while watching this was "I do believe Roger is an official member of The Hair Club for Men". Different strokes for different folks as they say!
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BTW, Thomas Pridgen is a DW endorsee and used a custom DW acrylic.
I confused him with Thomas Lang...
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I reeally wanted to like that. I like the Who. A lot.

That wasn't the Who.
You're right. And I took issue with Roger and Pete billing themselves as such. I understand that they still want to make money and remain relevant, but those two men are only half of the group. Back in 1973 at the Cow Palace in California when Keith Moon passed out behind his kit during "Won't Get Fooled Again" (someone slipped a tranquilizer into his drink) Townshend was forced to admit that "We don't have a group without him." Zak is a good drummer, and Pino Palladino is a top-flight bass player, but as good as they are they will never be able to completely replicate the brilliant (and sometimes volatile) musical chemistry that the original group had.
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God bless Pete and Roger for trying, but "The Who" ceased to exist when Moonie died. Zak is a great time keeper (like his old man), but he doesn't drive the band and is certainly not the lead instrument Keith's drumming was. You could still see Pete turning toward the drums wanting to get it on with Moonie but... Who music these days is like listening to a MP3 recording of the original (half the music is missing) IMO, Pete and Roger's vocals were live. The rest is open to speculation. Cool light show (The Who were pioneers in this area.) Wonder what the Superbowl (Bridgestone Tires) paid them for that gig?
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