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Old 02-07-2010, 10:04 AM
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Lately, in my hurly burly frenzy of gigging with almost any band that would have me, I experienced a interesting menagerie of musician -stereotypes. They were all fun to play with and they came in all colors and shades, but broadly speaking they fell into 2 groups:


1) Whiskey drinking/ weed smoking, jam- thought it- and get the vibe right and so what if some of the the notes are wrong, music is about having a good time and not about working so hard at it, and arent we having a good time..

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2) My music is my my church, and I take everything I play & who I play with very seriously, and i have no time for anybody else who doesn't view the world in quite the same way, and if you aren't like that then you are a pretender..


Bear in mind, both sets are working/gigging musicians.There were some personality fallouts between group1 & group2 ( not involving me- I'm way too tolerant ) which led to friction, walk outs, politics...

Anybody else experience this? Are there other stereotypes ? I find myself much closer to group2 but and am too greedy to play to let group 1 bother me that much.

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Old 02-07-2010, 10:37 AM
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I'd say I fit in Stereotype #2, but I started out in Drumline (when we were actually getting scored), and I'm also a perfectionist when it comes to things I'm passionate about (and music is at the top of that list)

I don't see why you'd want to be with someone who was OK screwing up in the middle of a show. You should want to play perfect, as you're constantly being judged by fans and other musicians. Nobody likes the band that can't play it's own songs right
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:42 AM
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I like the vibe of the first stereotype, I like jamming/imprivisation, but I always practice and perform sober (less than one beer in my system). I'm also working very hard for my music and drumming.

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Old 02-07-2010, 10:54 AM
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I think I would be a combination of the two. I really take music seriously, I take it so seriously I'm studying to be a percussionist in a conservatory. However I do feel that music should always be something fun and enjoyable. If not, why play? And I'm always up for some nice whiskey....
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:56 AM
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I guess I'm somewhere in the middle. I love going out to jam just to have a good time. At the same time, I like to jam with musicians that are more serious about their playing because I think it helps to make me a better musician. A legendary saxophonist named Phil Woods told me "Always play with musicians that are better than you as much as possible. It challenges you and helps you to be a better player." I took that to heart and realized that he was right. When I'm playing with musicians that are at a higher caliber than me, I push myself to do better to try and play at their level.
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I'm usually a firm camp 1 during writing and rehearsals (substitute cheap beer for the whiskey), less so for shows, and the first half of your description of camp 2 for recording, which is to say serious and sober - because the "tape" don't lie!

I don't have a problem with altering the mindset and loosening up with a beer (or several) for the creative process, but the fact is that from an accuracy and feel perspective, I haven't met anyone (including myself) who plays better affected. It may be funner for some and that may loosen up some good ideas, but invariably at the expense of clean execution - which probably isn't a huge deal when writing, because it's about running with new ideas and not getting too wrapped around the axle of overthinking things.

But by the time you're done writing and it's time to record, you really need all your facilities and brain cells.

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Old 02-07-2010, 12:09 PM
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Nice taxonomy, Aydee. Now that you mention it, that was the problem with one of my old bands - the singer was type 1 and the rest of us were more type 2.

These days I'm just in it for a good time, but that includes having a good creative time. I am relaxed with some sloppiness if the vibe is there but not with incompetence, tentativeness or lack of musical sensitivity because those things spoil the vibe. No one plays perfectly so we all have our own tolerance of imperfections. It's all relative, so Steve Gadd's most awful microtiming day would be my dream day.

There is one time when I don't mind if a screwup wrecks a song's vibe - when the screwup is so spectacular that creates a special vibe of its own :)
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Old 02-07-2010, 05:51 PM
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Polly, thanks for teaching me a word I needed to look up!

I think at a gigging level most screw ups are things that the musicians notice themselves and dont really transmit to the crowd except say in that; "the band was hot or they were hmmmmmm.."

I found myself in two different mindsets. Somewhere between laying down fat backbeats for people to clamber on to as they may, or being amped up to react to every flying quarter note that might whizz past my nose : )
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The choices are kinda black and white, unlike most people/situations. I have traits from both groups, according to what's going on, but I don't know anybody who is strictly one or the other. They vacillate according to the situation.
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I play with a guy who used to be a #2 but over the years he's become a #1. I'd say I'm a #1 for sure.

As far as I'm concerned if you're a #2 you're a colossal pain in the butt and if you're a #1 you're just lazy :)
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:33 PM
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I think if you surround yourself with talented people,then youd want the atmosphere to be group one.The band is good enough to fall back into form instantly if anyone slips,and its not the end of the world,because you are good enough to make it look like it was on purpose right :)

I dont quite fully understand the second group,that gets highly annoyed if someone fudged up the solo,or the bass line went sour on that part...if you took that musician on,you took them on aware of their experience level right?So to suddenly expect them to be flawless,is unfair.

So yea,I guess everyone should be in group one in some shape or form,its how you form the band,that allows you to enjoy the results.You cant just hire some kid that works at Valvoline,to be on your pit crew in Nascar.Everyone else will have the tires changed,gas filled,and hell still be lugging the first tire.
Stay within your talent level,and youll always be in group one.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:43 PM
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The choices are kinda black and white, unlike most people/situations. I have traits from both groups, according to what's going on, but I don't know anybody who is strictly one or the other. They vacillate according to the situation.
Right you are, Larry, of course there's a spectrum, I'm speaking in very general terms.

I came across the very serious about the music kinds and the attitude is everything kinds..I dont find people changing according to the situation though.. they mostly are who they are.

Example- I played with a singer who likes to sing drunk. He hits the sauce hard just before the gig, in the mistaken notion that it makes him sound better.( at some level it seems to give him confidence though.. ). The guitar and keyboard players who were serious session players, and initially quite excited by this band got totally PO'ed by this attitude, and lost all initial interest in the band and its music and only play for the cash now. Needless to say, this band has its days numbered.

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By this I ( generally ) mean players who are serious minded musicians who take what they play and how they play it, rehearsals, working out parts, practicing very seriously. Its more to do with attitude than with skill level.

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Old 02-07-2010, 07:46 PM
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"Stay within your talent level,and youll always be in group one." bog_72, I completely agree with this.

I myself, along with the guys I'm jamming with, most definitely fall into the #1 category.

In the end, I think we're all playing music because it's in our hearts. If there's no emotion in it, then why not just sit down with garage band and compose that way?

Ultimately, I think that most people have a little of both groups within them.

I like this thread. :)
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:51 PM
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Polly, thanks for teaching me a word I needed to look up!

I think at a gigging level most screw ups are things that the musicians notice themselves and dont really transmit to the crowd except say in that; "the band was hot or they were hmmmmmm.."

I found myself in two different mindsets. Somewhere between laying down fat backbeats for people to clamber on to as they may, or being amped up to react to every flying quarter note that might whizz past my nose : )
Ah, I obviously worked in museums for too long :)

Yes, the punters only notice the truly glorious blunders. Audiences tend to have type 1 heads and type 2 emotions, apart from followers of a genre that I dare not name for fear of invoking a riot.

Your last point is great. I'm never sure how reactive I should be to the music or not. Solidity and clarity versus sensitivity and sophistication. Come to think of it, I've been unsure how to reconcile those poles in every area of life ...

PS. Aydee, a couple of posts made while I wrote this post suggest that you may have made the description of type 2 a little too extreme, too dour. I think people who fit that type well are a small percentage.

I have only played on a regular basis with one person who fits that to a T and he cut off all contact after one time I had a little scoobie during a break while jamming with him and a bassist he'd brought along, hoping to impress. I was a bit spaced out when we started playing again and made a huge mess of a fill in Red Baron (which I wouldn't dream of even attempting these days). After the jam was over he bawled me out almost Buddy Rich style (I didn't cry!) and never called me again. What a turd - lol

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apart from followers of a genre that I dare not name for fear of invoking a riot.
aahahaha..I love it! the genre shall remain nameless. perhaps we can develop a symbol or a logo..

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I'm never sure how reactive I should be to the music or not. Solidity and clarity versus sensitivity and sophistication. Come to think of it, I've been unsure how to reconcile those poles in every area of life ...
Great point! A life poser.. Someone once told me that if you are thinking while you are playing you are doing it wrong.. even if its parts that need remembering and bars that need counting, learn to feel them.

The life bit has got me thinking now...

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Someone once told me that if you are thinking while you are playing you are doing it wrong.. even if its parts that need remembering and bars that need counting, learn to feel them.

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Agreed wholeheartedly. You can't be a "conduit" for rhythms if your mind is plugged up with conscious thought. Listening instead of thinking changes everything. My opinion only, but it really makes a difference in my playing
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aahahaha..I love it! the genre shall remain nameless. perhaps we can develop a symbol or a logo..
lol - maybe try substituting a word that invokes less passion like "god" or "death"? :)

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Great point! A life poser.. Someone once told me that if you are thinking while you are playing you are doing it wrong.. even if its parts that need remembering and bars that need counting, learn to feel them.

The life bit has got me thinking now......
In some ways I am coming to agree with what that person told you, and feel I've over-thought a lot of (musical) things. But that's while actually playing.

But what about when we're working out drum parts (say, while listening to playbacks and realising that our instincts didn't quite cut it)? Or when deciding how loosely (if at all) we should arrange our drum part to allow for spontaneous play?
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But what about when we're working out drum parts (say, while listening to playbacks and realising that our instincts didn't quite cut it)? Or when deciding how loosely (if at all) we should arrange our drum part to allow for spontaneous play?
That's the time for conscious thought, not while playing
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Larry, sometimes I don't explain myself well.

Thing is, I'm simply a reactive kinda gal. I react to everything (hence a few million posts here in a short time). So my instincts are at odds with what's required in the music I play, which requires a very laid-back, stolid approach.

If I purely follow my ears I'll chasing accents as though I'm swatting flies in the outback. This is a fine thing for jaz... mmmph playing (or would be if I had mmmph technique) but not in the loungey music of my band. Of course, this also means my natural instincts are to be an annoying pain in the @rse as well ...

That's where my previous comment came from. Are my muddy thoughts transluscent now? :)

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Old 02-08-2010, 01:37 AM
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Curious. The guys in the band are pretty much in the middle. We're not sloppy players, we like to be fairly professional in our dealings and like to play our best, but we also have fun on stage and like to chat to the other bands, make friends and praise the bands we play with. We're not "church musicians" by a long shot, but neither are we drunk garage band slobs.

We're just an down to Earth alternative rock band trying to make it in the industry :)
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I'm definatley number 1 minus the drugs (I'm 14). I would think you could tell by the music they are playing. I play things like rock, grunge and alternative and I'm really like hey chill out man. But my friend Kevin plays progressive metal and he is more to the second. He can argue the hell out of his opinions. Jazz, gospel, blues and rock seem like they would have drummers that are more chill while people that play metal or are everything drummers would be more uptight.
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But what about when we're working out drum parts (say, while listening to playbacks and realising that our instincts didn't quite cut it)? Or when deciding how loosely (if at all) we should arrange our drum part to allow for spontaneous play?
Working out drum parts for me, as larry said, is the time to understand the logic ( or the lack thereof.. ) of what I'm playing.

Wooten described it well in a DVD where the analogy he used was that of learning a language. After having learnt it, one speaks without conscious thought of how a sentence might have been constructed and the focus is more on conveying the emotion intented.

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Great point! A life poser.. Someone once told me that if you are thinking while you are playing you are doing it wrong.. even if its parts that need remembering and bars that need counting, learn to feel them.

The life bit has got me thinking now...

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The person that told you that could nto have had a musical education. Or they were gifted... whatever. That just doesn't work for everybody.
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The person that told you that could nto have had a musical education. ..... That just doesn't work for everybody.
He most certainly did and sure, it doesn't work for everybody. There is no 'one way' in music.
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He most certainly did and sure, it doesn't work for everybody. There is no 'one way' in music.
Yes, but the principle of listening hard, switching off your mind and immersing yourself in a Zenlike way would have been the basic musicians' approach when we first banged rocks together. Not including sight-reading, there seems to be good premeditation (composing parts before playing) and bad premeditation (while playing because the musician doesn't trust his or her instincts).

Mucky, I'm not a gifted drummer by any stretch and IMO it's not a matter of how good you are so much as that basic principle will make a player work better with the music relative to their general standard.

There may not be a catch-all formula in music, but the switch-off-your-mind-and-immerse-yourself Zen thing is probably as close as there is to one if you've done your homework ... again, just IMO. One thing I know for sure is the best thing to let go of when playing music is your ego (that would apply to life in general too). You need confidence, of course, but only that you can serve the music, not to dominate it.

Oh poop, rambling again ...
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Just back from a hugely frustrating studio session where I'd like to have been a type 1 but was forced into being a type 4 (type 2 but twice as bad) because of circumstances. Once I completely gave up caring, I reverted to type 0.5 (twice as obnoxious as type 1). I'm going to mix this mess next week when I'll be a type 2 at the desk, then a type 1 at the pub later. The moral? There's a bit of each stereotype in most players but you're often forced in a direction by circumstances and your own internal vibe meter. If you really extone the virtues of either 1 or 2 at the exclusion of the other, remember, every silver lining has a cloud!
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Example- mistaken notion that it makes him sound better.( at some level it seems to give him confidence though.. ). this band has its days numbered.




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Wow... talk about deja vu.

I seem to be stuck in the middle here. I absolutely LOVE just lettin loose and getting lost in the groove. It s a feeling you try to replicate over and over but just cant, at least in "my" case(s).

I also have had enough of the strict"studio" regimen to keep myself from feeling restricted.. But as AD said... confidence can be found in odd places, too bad it ends harshly.


I think I wanna be # 3.....1 and 2 adds up eventually
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Touche, Andy.. I'm loving all the perspectives including the schizophrenic ones.

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Wow... talk about deja vu.
....I think I wanna be # 3.....1 and 2 adds up eventually
Hey, Ride, talking of deja vu, nice to see you around again. 1+ 2 is where the truth lies, I suppose... if we survive it : )
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Just back from a hugely frustrating studio session where I'd like to have been a type 1 but was forced into being a type 4 (type 2 but twice as bad) because of circumstances. Once I completely gave up caring, I reverted to type 0.5 (twice as obnoxious as type 1). I'm going to mix this mess next week when I'll be a type 2 at the desk, then a type 1 at the pub later. The moral? There's a bit of each stereotype in most players but you're often forced in a direction by circumstances and your own internal vibe meter. If you really extone the virtues of either 1 or 2 at the exclusion of the other, remember, every silver lining has a cloud!
That's hilarious! I went into my bad recording experience with a mega-tanker of energy drink thinking that'd sustain me through all the tracking, but all it did was fuel my rage! It took quite a few drinks to take that edge off.
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Recording is so much harder than performing. Just getting the drums to sound good is an all day task sometimes. And how were stereotypes described in the days of mono? Monotypes?
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. Just getting the drums to sound good is an all day task sometimes.
Oh Larry, if only I had a whole day. 1st hour gratis for setup & mic placement then a 5 minute check. Everything recorded flat (I'm cool with that). Interesting to know where the term "stereotype" came from (probably showing my ignorance here). A slight off track but relevant, our singer was so pleased with his first take vocal he ran into the control room buck naked with only one of his socks to cover his gentlemans vegetables! Abe, oh sage one, think up a muso stereotype bracket for that!!! I'd just had my gormet lunch of pot noodle and (Kraft) cream egg too. WHY???? Anyhow, we had the last laugh. He left the video camera running and it captured his "performance" through the control room glass screen. I'm reliably informed by our guitarist that a clip will appear in the video of our studio session to be placed on Youtube. I'll post a link when it's done. Polly, you can PM me to get an early access code for a small fee!
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... our singer was so pleased with his first take vocal he ran into the control room buck naked with only one of his socks to cover his gentlemans vegetables! ... He left the video camera running and it captured his "performance" through the control room glass screen. I'm reliably informed by our guitarist that a clip will appear in the video of our studio session to be placed on Youtube. I'll post a link when it's done. Polly, you can PM me to get an early access code for a small fee!
lol! This does, of course, beg the question as to why he was naked. I'm sure the answer will be illuminating?

Now, as for this access code, I don't buy cymbals blind and I'm not inclined to here. Please supply more info on the "product" - singer's age, body type, stomach dimensions and ... other information you believe is relevant for female viewers ...

I love it when you have the band recording as a group to capture the ambient stuff, but it's a bummer when someone loves their take and another is desperate to try again. Type 1 and 2 thing comes into play with this too.

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Oh Larry, if only I had a whole day. 1st hour gratis for setup & mic placement then a 5 minute check. Everything recorded flat (I'm cool with that). Interesting to know where the term "stereotype" came from (probably showing my ignorance here). A slight off track but relevant, our singer was so pleased with his first take vocal he ran into the control room buck naked with only one of his socks to cover his gentlemans vegetables! Abe, oh sage one, think up a muso stereotype bracket for that!!! I'd just had my gormet lunch of pot noodle and (Kraft) cream egg too. WHY???? Anyhow, we had the last laugh. He left the video camera running and it captured his "performance" through the control room glass screen. I'm reliably informed by our guitarist that a clip will appear in the video of our studio session to be placed on Youtube. I'll post a link when it's done. Polly, you can PM me to get an early access code for a small fee!
He bothered with a sock, aye? Thats narcissism with a touch of endowment envy, perhaps... I'd love to see this performance.

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lol! This does, of course, beg the question as to why he was naked. I'm sure the answer will be illuminating?

Now, as for this access code, I don't buy cymbals blind and I'm not inclined to here. Please supply more info on the "product" - singer's age, body type, stomach dimensions and ... other information you believe is relevant for female viewers ...

I love it when you have the band recording as a group to capture the ambient stuff, but it's a bummer when someone loves their take and another is desperate to try again. Type 1 and 2 thing comes into play with this too.
I truthfully have no idea why he did this. A total shock to all. He's known the keyboard player for some years and may have been trying to cheer him up/distract him. The keyboard player lost his mother suddenly, only a few days before the session. I honestly didn't think he'd make it but, to his credit, he did.

Anyhow Poll, as far as product details are concerned, I'm certainly not in/wouldn't want to be in a position to give exact specifications. The singer is 37, not exactly trim, hmmm difficult this. I'd keep your money in your pocket.
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I truthfully have no idea why he did this. A total shock to all. He's known the keyboard player for some years and may have been trying to cheer him up/distract him. The keyboard player lost his mother suddenly, only a few days before the session. I honestly didn't think he'd make it but, to his credit, he did.

Anyhow Poll, as far as product details are concerned, I'm certainly not in/wouldn't want to be in a position to give exact specifications. The singer is 37, not exactly trim, hmmm difficult this. I'd keep your money in your pocket.
KIS, you don't work in sales, do you?

I do feel some investigation is required. The nakedness is eccentric enough but the sock is pure class. Damn, why are all the good ones overseas? :(

If your singer continues this mode of behaviour you guys might pick up enough notoriety to improve your fees ...
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KIS, you don't work in sales, do you?

I do feel some investigation is required. The nakedness is eccentric enough but the sock is pure class. Damn, why are all the good ones overseas? :(

If your singer continues this mode of behaviour you guys might pick up enough notoriety to improve your fees ...
I'm banking on it! Now, the keyboard player really is eccentric. He revealed he'd have no problem wearing a "Mankini" at a gig. As he's well known for using vocal/choir type sounds, we suggested the addition of full size angel wings. Silver sparkle Mankini & angel wings! Now we're really into rock opera / The Tubes (one of my favorite bands) territory. Abe, you need to develop a much more expansive list than just type 1 or 2.
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Could one not just be a 1 (hah) who tries to keep playing clean as possible & if necessary will re-do takes till they get it right? Without being a music Nazi?

Im like a responsible 1, if such a thing exists...

I fear I was going down the path of 3 (1+2) up until the point I finished my music tech. degree. Then I realized just cause I like John Coltrane and some other person likes...Aqua, or something equally banal; that I dont have any right to lecture them as to why they are making a huge 'mistake'.

I do still get annoyed by over-studied session-type (sorry, dont mean to pigeon-hole ya) musicians who dont factor in 'life experience' into playing, learning & performing & who cant grasp the idea of vibe, ambience, swagger & fluidity in playing over technical precision.
Even Chris Pennie from DEP (a band I definitely admire from afar but doesnt get much airplay on Radio Saif, with the exception of Calulating Infinity) says they were more concerned with getting the proper emotion conveyed, accuracy was secondary IF the emotion was missing. But they were going for both, as we all are...arent we?
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This thread is getting even better!

KIS, if was in UK I would love to hear your band play. A rock solid band with a young star guitarist, a gorgeous set of cymbals AND all that idiocy. Too much fun :)

Great post, khanedeliac.
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Abe, you need to develop a much more expansive list than just type 1 or 2.
Yup. Black, White, and Grey........and Beige. : )

Love rock operas.
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This thread is getting even better!

KIS, if was in UK I would love to hear your band play. A rock solid band with a young star guitarist, a gorgeous set of cymbals AND all that idiocy. Too much fun :)

Great post, khanedeliac.
The idiocy hasn't transferred to the stage show yet. We've only done three gigs and the band's show's pretty boring to date. Yea Abe, I love the whole rock opera thing too, especially with a sprinkling of debauchery! The Tubes shows of the late 70's & early 80's transformed my perception of a "good night out" kinda concert. Suddenly, a Deep Purple, Rainbow, etc rock god style show seemed very bland. A photo of Richie Blackmore, taken by a friend of mine, answering his hotel room door dressed in wynceyette pyjamas killed the mystique for me.
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