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Old 01-13-2019, 06:22 PM
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Default How Much Better is Yamaha Tour Cust vs Absolute Hybrid???

I want to get a Yamaha Maple drum set. I really like the Absolute Hybrid Maple set and can get one for about $2800. which is a good price for it. BUT the Tour Custom maple is only $1300 & it's a nice sounding kit too. I'm having trouble with the idea of paying more than twice as much for the Absolute Hybrid.

I was hoping that you guys that are familiar with both sets could give me some advice & opinions.

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Old 01-13-2019, 07:20 PM
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Alot of hardware on the Absolute drums is also upgraded.. with the hook lug.. that SOME don't like.. and some do like, all the brackets.. the bass spurs, hoop claws, tom hoops, almost all metal parts on the kit and the finishes are nicer IMO. Bass hoops are also fully finished. The wood is a little higher grade I believe for the shells.. and the insides are probably better finished. .... Also, the Absolutes are made in Yamaha's drum factory and the Tour's are made by another company out of Taiwan.

If you don't care about that stuff.. the Tour's are nice enough but if you have the money to burn.. go for the Absolutes.

Here is a vid with both kits : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgyBF4I6pCU
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Old 01-13-2019, 07:32 PM
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Different categories and price ranges. Gigging set vs. touring/pro set.
If you go by the specs, they're not similar at all.

Tour Custom: https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musi...l#product-tabs
Hybrid Maple: https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musi...l#product-tabs

In practical/visible terms - different hoops, shell composition, finishes, lugs, and so on.
The Hybrid has more heavy duty bass drum spurs too.

I have the Tour Customs, but have never seen or heard the Hybrids in person.
I do have a set of MCAN's though (Maple Custom Absolute Nouveau),
and for sound, the Tours are almost identical (with the right heads).

Here's a good comparison of sound for the Tours and Hybrids:
https://youtu.be/dgyBF4I6pCU?t=4
EDIT: oops - Artstar beat me to that video - it's worth a listen.

Which to get would depend on a few things - what do you plan on using them for,
how much are you willing to spend,
and does one set have something (or things) that you just don't want to do without.
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Old 01-13-2019, 07:44 PM
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Are you into sparkle finishes? The Absolute Hybrids have a painted/lacquer sparkle finish (not a wrap, which is glued onto the shell), and they are just glorious. Not even wrapped sparkles are as nice as a Yamaha painted sparkle. I have no idea what their painting process is like, but it's the best in the business.

The tom mounts are a bit different. The Tour Customs do not have a black piece between the mount and the shell, which looks cleaner. I'm sure both mounts work just fine.

For whatever reason, neither kit has memory locks for the floor tom legs, which is pretty standard these days.
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Old 01-13-2019, 07:45 PM
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Here is a vid with both kits : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgyBF4I6pCU
Great. I wish every drum kit comparison video were done this way.Personally, I'd pick Tour Custom and have $1500 to spend on nice hardware and cymbals.
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..I'm having trouble with the idea of paying more than twice as much for the Absolute Hybrid..

The question is not if the Absolute Hybrid is a better drumset or not, because basically every drumset above $1000,- with quality drumheads is a quality drumset..

The question you should ask yourself with such issues, is if the Absolute Hybrid actually sounds $1500 better..

And in most cases the answer will be..no..
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:59 PM
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I want to get a Yamaha Maple drum set.
You could try this below.. and sell it whenever for probably zero loss.

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Ya...t-114587637.gc
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:19 PM
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The question is not if the Absolute Hybrid is a better drumset or not, because basically every drumset above $1000,- with quality drumheads is a quality drumset..

The question you should ask yourself with such issues, is if the Absolute Hybrid actually sounds $1500 better..

And in most cases the answer will be..no..
If you consider that finding a Tour Custom is fairly easy used in like new condition vs an Absolute Hybrid, that $1500 gap becomes way bigger.
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:17 AM
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If you consider that finding a Tour Custom is fairly easy used in like new condition vs an Absolute Hybrid, that $1500 gap becomes way bigger.

The current version Tour Custom was announced in the summer of 2017,
and was supposed to start shipping later in the year:
https://usa.yamaha.com/news_events/2...ts_modern.html

I bought the first used set I've seen around here.
I also watch GC's used Yamaha section, and have seen very few show up there.

There have been several versions of the Tour Customs though.
This new version has some features that the last one didn't,
and also has some differences from the version before that.
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Satin finishes only in the Tour Customs? That would be fine in the caramel, butterscotch, and chocolate colors as they are very close the the natural maple colors. But colors like candy apple and licorice suffer in the satin, in my opinion. And no wraps?

I know that Yamaha has to pull out every trick in this very competitive price category, but surely they could offer glosses and wraps for an extra $100 or so, which I'd gladly pay.

Nonetheless, I love Yamaha drums.

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I had both, now I have neither. The tour custom is a nice gigging kit and would get the job done. The hybrid kit is a beautifully built kit, hardware, finish, hook lugs.

My issue was I didn't want to take the hybrid out to some of the places I played to have them get all dinged up and I wasn't blown away by the tour custom on a few of the bigger stages I played on.

So, I went back to Oak custom and live custom drums for my gigging kits. Great sounding work horse kits. IMO.
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My issue was I didn't want to take the hybrid out to some of the places I played to have them get all dinged up...
That's always a struggle isn't it? Honestly with cheaper and cheaper drums sounding better and better, I think for me it becomes even more of a struggle. As much as I might want to drop almost $3k on a nice lacquer set, I know I wouldn't want to take it anywhere and I really don't do any studio stuff anymore. So for me that is just too much for me to spend on a set that will just sit at home.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:33 PM
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I had both, now I have neither. The tour custom is a nice gigging kit and would get the job done. The hybrid kit is a beautifully built kit, hardware, finish, hook lugs.

My issue was I didn't want to take the hybrid out to some of the places I played to have them get all dinged up and I wasn't blown away by the tour custom on a few of the bigger stages I played on.

So, I went back to Oak custom and live custom drums for my gigging kits. Great sounding work horse kits. IMO.
Well that pretty much sums it up I think. Nice review from an owner of both.. as well as two additional Yamaha kits.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:07 PM
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....I wasn't blown away by the tour custom on a few of the bigger stages I played on.....

Curious what you mean by that.
Not enough projection?
Not flashy enough visually?
Something else?
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:09 PM
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Yes, at least to my ears on a big outdoor stage with limited mics. I guess I am just used to the Oak drums. on't get me wrong the tours sounded real good just didn't have the oomph
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Yes, at least to my ears on a big outdoor stage with limited mics. I guess I am just used to the Oak drums. on't get me wrong the tours sounded real good just didn't have the oomph

Maybe those extra thin shells of the Tours have something to do with it.
I only use them indoors, so will probably never run into that.

Projection was the first thing I thought of though.
Heavy, thick shells supposedly have more projection.
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