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Old 03-20-2017, 03:38 PM
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Default My New Oriollo Cast Bell Bronze Snare!!!

Back in January I contacted Oriollo drums to inquire about having a cast bell bronze snare shell made. I was amazed all the options offered! Here are the specifics I settled on:

14x8
3.4 mm shell thickness
7 mm re-rings
Roundover 45 edges
Holes drilled for offset single point double ended lugs and trick strainer

I finished the drum out with Gibraltar Reinforced Die-Cast hoops, german wires, and remo heads.

The drum turned out beautiful!

Here is the bare shell.

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Old 03-20-2017, 03:39 PM
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I ordered polished aluminum offset single point double ended lugs from Champagne Drum. These went together nicely and are surprisingly light weight!

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Old 03-20-2017, 03:41 PM
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Here is a shot of the Gibraltar Reinforced Die-Cast hoops I used. It is hard to tell in the picture, however there is extra metal around the tension rod hole to keep that part of the hoop from deflecting. These hoops are VERY stiff!

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Old 03-20-2017, 03:44 PM
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DONE!!



Before assembly I did give the shell a rub down with alcohol and waxed it inside and out.

Like said, I am very happy. Oriollo makes awesome drums for even better prices, and provides good customer service. All emails were answered quickly, some same day which is saying a lot given the time difference between the US and Serbia.

Thanks again Oriollo!!!
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Old 03-20-2017, 03:59 PM
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That is one stunning drum! love the lugs and hoop combination!
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:02 PM
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Speechless!!!!, well I have to mutter something or it wont post. That is truly special.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:18 PM
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That's a gorgeous drum. I bet it sounds amazing.
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That is weapons grade drum gear right there... Beautiful!!
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:28 PM
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Beautiful drum! How did you work out getting the shell drilled for the lugs you purchased? Did you send one to Orillo to use as a template? I wasn't aware that they will accommodate third party lug.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:38 PM
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All, thanks. This drum is truly amazing. The sound is intoxicating! Lots of crack (hoops, re-rings), lots of body, lots of smiles. I want to experiment with different tunings. Right now it is tuned a little high. I am also using a hazy emporer snare side head which is a bit interesting.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:45 PM
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Beautiful drum! How did you work out getting the shell drilled for the lugs you purchased? Did you send one to Orillo to use as a template? I wasn't aware that they will accommodate third party lug.
If Oriollo is making you a shell, I don't think there is issue with him drilling it how you want. It may be different if you are having him build out a complete drum.

As for the lug holes, I simply asked Champagne Drums what size was needed for their lug, and then asked what the offset was. In my case, the lugs needed a 1/4" hole drilled in the shell. The mounting point on the lug is 1.5" offset from center. The lug is 5" long. The shell is 8" deep. The math worked out such that 10 equally spaced holes needed to be drilled 2.5" from the bottom edge of the shell. I sent this to Oriollo in an email and he handled it accordingly. He also drilled the shell for a trick strainer and butt plate. All of the parts mounted beautifully.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:41 PM
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Turned out great!
Interesting shell layout. Would love to hear it ...
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:46 PM
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Turned out great!
Interesting shell layout. Would love to hear it ...
I want to get a sound clip, however cellphone camera audio won't do this justice!
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Stunning ! yes, get that in a studio or gig w/ something like a Zoom. Oriollo also on my list...
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Old 03-20-2017, 10:25 PM
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Is machining metal off considered a re-ring? I thought a re-ring was an additional piece of material added to the ID for strength...not machined in grooves. Either way, lovely snare! Just trying to get my vernacular correct.

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Old 03-20-2017, 10:42 PM
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Is machining metal off considered a re-ring? I thought a re-ring was an additional piece of material added to the ID for strength...not machined in grooves. Either way, lovely snare! Just trying to get my vernacular correct.

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I also wanted to ask what the re-ring is for on this particular shell. Sound or structure? The shell looks pretty thick, so I'm guessing it's for sound?

Either way it looks great!
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:11 PM
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Is machining metal off considered a re-ring? I thought a re-ring was an additional piece of material added to the ID for strength...not machined in grooves. Either way, lovely snare! Just trying to get my vernacular correct.

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Are there literal re-rings in the shell? No. In this context "re-ring" would describe an edge reinforced by having a thicker cross section than the rest of the shell. The same could be said for a wood stave or solid ply shell where wood is removed from the middle and the ends are left being thicker.

What the re-rings do from my understanding is allow you to have the best of both worlds between a thin shell and thick shell. You get the attack of a thick shell with the warmth/body of a thinner shell. The pitch is somewhere in between.

It may be unnecessary with a metal shell that is already 3 mm thick, however it was an option so I went with it.
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Old 03-21-2017, 01:19 AM
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Are there literal re-rings in the shell? No. In this context "re-ring" would describe an edge reinforced by having a thicker cross section than the rest of the shell. The same could be said for a wood stave or solid ply shell where wood is removed from the middle and the ends are left being thicker.

What the re-rings do from my understanding is allow you to have the best of both worlds between a thin shell and thick shell. You get the attack of a thick shell with the warmth/body of a thinner shell. The pitch is somewhere in between.

It may be unnecessary with a metal shell that is already 3 mm thick, however it was an option so I went with it.
Yeah, I don't see the need for re-rings on a 3 mm shell, unless you're playing in a REALLY loud environment, or you are cranking super-high for reggae or such.
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Old 03-21-2017, 01:51 AM
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Yeah, I don't see the need for re-rings on a 3 mm shell, unless you're playing in a REALLY loud environment, or you are cranking super-high for reggae or such.
I would think in this application having the machined in rings would give a greater head to edge contact area drawing more sound out of the shell and also changing the feel...so I could see where that might could be appealing?
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:07 AM
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I would think in this application having the machined in rings would give a greater head to edge contact area drawing more sound out of the shell and also changing the feel...so I could see where that might could be appealing?
Depending on bearing edge, sure.
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:18 AM
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Beautiful piece of work! Were you going for a particular sound for this, or just a multi-purpose snare?
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Old 03-21-2017, 04:13 PM
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Depending on bearing edge, sure.
Edges are roundover 45s. There is a decent amount of head contact.
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Old 03-21-2017, 04:15 PM
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Beautiful piece of work! Were you going for a particular sound for this, or just a multi-purpose snare?
I didn't have a particular sound in mind. If anything I wanted attack, bell bronze tone, and the body that an 8" depth can provide. I am happy with how this turned out.
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:33 PM
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Truly a beast of a drum. I want one of these but also have a premonition that I will not use it much once I get it. I have a super heavy brass Pearl Reference that I thought would be the end all, but it is simply too loud and harsh for most of the situations I find myself in. Simply becomes a cool thing to own and have on the shelf, but did not end up being a practical workhorse drum.

Very nice job with the assembly, all top shelf hardware and is pretty well colour matched.
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Whoa, what a beaut, AT6! Looks like you'd need to eat your Wheaties before lifting!
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Whoa, what a beaut, AT6! Looks like you'd need to eat your Wheaties before lifting!
This drum is heavy, but nowhere near the weight of others I have had. I did have a 14x9.5 free floating snare made from stainless sch. 40 pipe that weighed about 42 lbs..... That was nuts.
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Old 03-21-2017, 07:55 PM
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Truly a beast of a drum. I want one of these but also have a premonition that I will not use it much once I get it. I have a super heavy brass Pearl Reference that I thought would be the end all, but it is simply too loud and harsh for most of the situations I find myself in. Simply becomes a cool thing to own and have on the shelf, but did not end up being a practical workhorse drum.

Very nice job with the assembly, all top shelf hardware and is pretty well colour matched.
Thank you Sir. I would say get one! Playing a snare like this on your own free time is worth it in my opinion.
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Well, slap my @$$ and call me "Charlie" if that's not a beautiful drum.

Let's hear it!
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Wanted to share this cool new finish on bell bronze shells. I called it Chocolate Patina.
14x8 and 13x7.
Matte lacquer.

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Looks fantastic, Vukan! Really reminds me of the classic, rich wood stain finishes on US made sets like Gretschs. Always a treat to see your drums!
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Finally, a batch of OriCast hoops produced. Not cheap compared to some common hoops, but very affordable compared to Tama's (used) BB hoops ...



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Damn Vukan, looking good!
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Oh my! That drum is a stunner!! Holy cow man! I love the hardware and everything. Great choice, I would love to hear it.
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I love everything about this drum. Great choices all-around!
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This drum is heavy, but nowhere near the weight of others I have had. I did have a 14x9.5 free floating snare made from stainless sch. 40 pipe that weighed about 42 lbs..... That was nuts.
That is nuts! A guy could drop a nut shuffling a drum around that weight. :)
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Here's a 14x8 bell bronze drum with matching hoops.
Oriollo Bellmaker 80 Full Edition.

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Here's a 14x8 bell bronze drum with matching hoops.
Oriollo Bellmaker 80 Full Edition.

WOW!

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Here's a 14x8 bell bronze drum
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Holy... what a drum mr. Vukan.

Do these come in 13x7 too?
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This is beautiful. Please post a video when/if possible.

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