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Old 04-25-2015, 05:22 PM
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Good Morning Drummerworld.

Of course this is all a bit frivolous with close mic'ing but I think it is still important, and of course I'd love to get your opinions. So... if you're so fortunate as to have a choice, which snare drums do choose for which rooms?

I like metal shells in muddy rooms and for covering long distances (no matter the room), and wood shells for pretty much everything else. I know there's a lot more to it than just "metal" or "wood", and we can get into that, but that's kind of my oversimplified rule of thumb.

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Old 04-25-2015, 05:47 PM
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I use the same snare no matter the room. How I hit it depends on the room surfaces and the amount of people in the room.
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Old 04-25-2015, 05:51 PM
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I use the same snare no matter the room. How I hit it depends on the room surfaces and the amount of people in the room.
I acoustically remodel every room I play in to offer optimal snare sound. So much more satisfying that simply changing tuning ;)
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Old 04-26-2015, 04:10 AM
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Haha, last night I ran into this very problem. I had a jazz gig on my college campus and played in on of the campus apartments. Normally, I use an old Sonor D-444 as my main snare. It works great at all my other performances where the room is bigger. However, for this gig they stuck me in a corner where two big panes of glass came together. It was just way too much for the size of the room. I quickly switched it out for a Tama Silverstar snare with an Evans Genera Dry. Worked like a charm.
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Old 04-26-2015, 05:17 AM
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I acoustically remodel every room I play in to offer optimal snare sound. So much more satisfying that simply changing tuning ;)
Do you mean to imply you think I don't try different snare drum tunings? Considering you manufacture drums for a living, you were one of the people I was hoping for some quality discussion from, honestly.
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I play in two kinds of places. There are no microphones for the drums in either place.

One place is in bars and small night clubs. I use my 1926 Ludwig COB Super. It has plenty of crack and cuts though the loud guitar and amps just fine.

The other venue is outdoors. Here I use my Ludwig Supraphonic 5 x 14. I don't think this snare works well outdoors. It is louder than my Ludwig Super but I have to hit it very hard to compete with the loud guitar and keyboard amps. I know the band plays a little too loud, but that is not going to change. When I play outdoors there is usually a brass section, keyboard, two guitars, bass, harp player and lead singer.

I would like to find a good snare for un-miced outdoor use.
I don't own a wood snare.

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I would like to find a good snare for un-miced outdoor use.
I don't own a wood snare.

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If you don't want to invest too much I'd suggest a steel snare for this purpose, an older Pearl or Tama offering. The Pearl Chad Smith snare is also a nice rather inexpensive snare with cut. Steel is harsher than Alu or brass but does the job with loud guitar amplification.
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If you don't want to invest too much I'd suggest a steel snare for this purpose, an older Pearl or Tama offering. The Pearl Chad Smith snare is also a nice rather inexpensive snare with cut. Steel is harsher than Alu or brass but does the job with loud guitar amplification.
Be careful with those steel snares. You might end up never using your Ludwigs again :)

Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9SMpQ-HTQE
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Be careful with those steel snares. You might end up never using your Ludwigs again :)

Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9SMpQ-HTQE
Yep very nice...but an expensive one?
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Yep very nice...but an expensive one?
Oops, didn't know they jacked the price up. I got one of those about 5 years ago for 299 USD, only 60 more than the Chad Smith snare.
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Unless I'm playing a huge venue or outdoor concert, I never mic my drums... it might depend on the style of music, I play mostly jazz, which allows me to work a lot with dynamics. If sticks are too loud in a room, I'll switch over to brushes, or just play quieter...
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