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Old 03-02-2013, 08:57 AM
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Since the forum reboot, every thread is viewed by one more person other than those that reply. Who is this person? What's their agenda? Who do they work for? Does Sticks have a secret official lurking status?
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:47 AM
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A thread with three replies has four posts (since the OP isn't included in the "Replies" count). So it actually adds up ;-)

That said, I have no idea how the Views count is calculated. Seems like it's only when a thread reaches a certain number of replies or views that the view counter actually disconnects from the reply counter and starts increasing rapidly.
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At the time of my reply, this thread had one reply and two views...

One reply from Naigewron and two views from keep it simple & Naigewron, it all adds up.

Andy when you submit a thread it is counted as one view straight away.

However, the number of view is not instantly accounted for, it seems to happen in cycles and update the number of view every so often, the same phenomenon apply when you upload a pic on the forum, I had reply for pics I've put on the forum, but the stats of the forum says zero view, a little while later it increase to say 5 views, even if I had no further replies concerning the pic.

I'll post my reply now and edit my post straight away to see if my post has been taken into consideration :)

Edit: Yes, 2 replies and 3 views, it was instantly incremented :)
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:36 AM
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Got the post count deal - no problem, but look at threads before the reboot, & you'll see an exponentially bigger count of views than posts (i.e. 24 replies, 374 views). Since the reboot, the number of views is only ever 1 more than the number of replies. Have we been culling lurkers?
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Any new members opening the thread for viewing is accounted for, even if they do not reply in it, thus increasing the number of views vs the number of replies :)
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:49 AM
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Any new members opening the thread for viewing is accounted for, even if they do not reply in it, thus increasing the number of views vs the number of replies :)
I'm not so sure Henri. I don't see how there's consistently only one more view than the number of replies. The only threads where that doesn't apply, are ones that existed before the reboot. Something has changed.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:58 AM
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I noticed this too, something's busted.

All post reboot threads are counting views as replies + 1.
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:29 AM
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However, the number of view is not instantly accounted for, it seems to happen in cycles and update the number of view every so often,
I think MAD has the answer right there. Views aren't added continuously, they're just accumulated and added in bulk. That's why older threads have more logical view counts, while new threads only get the view count corresponding to the posts in the thread.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:03 PM
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I think MAD has the answer right there. Views aren't added continuously, they're just accumulated and added in bulk. That's why older threads have more logical view counts, while new threads only get the view count corresponding to the posts in the thread.
That may well be true, but there's no doubt the way it's done has changed since the reboot, & I've yet to see any thread started after the reboot that has a visitor count greater than 1 above the post count.

Truthfully, I think we've had a lurker cull ;) ;) :0
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That may well be true, but there's no doubt the way it's done has changed since the reboot, & I've yet to see any thread started after the reboot that has a visitor count greater than 1 above the post count.

Truthfully, I think we've had a lurker cull ;) ;) :0
Did the count once include people who visit the site and don't log in and now it doesn't?
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Did the count once include people who visit the site and don't log in and now it doesn't?
That seems to be the logical explanation, prior the reboot, lurkers were accounted for in the number of views, now the compiled stats only take into account the number of views for the members which have replied within the thread, lurkers and members not actively participating within the thread are not accounted anymore.

Therefore all thread since the reboot will have the OP post plus the subsequent replies accounted for, which = replies + 1

Incidentally, I checked one of the pic cartoon I uploaded recently in this thread "Forums. Get ahead of the competition.", it has 36 replies for 37 views, but the stats for the pic cartoon says 144 views, so either someone out there really like my cartoon, or the stats counts for the number of views has changed, because 37 views for the thread vs 144 views for the pic is not a coherent value.
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lurkers and members not actively participating within the thread are not accounted anymore.
If that's the case, what's the point of the view count at all? It will just be replies+1 for eternity.
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If that's the case, what's the point of the view count at all? It will just be replies+1 for eternity.
I agree Naige, totally worthless to do stats in this case, but I think there's a bug somewhere in the stats in some parts of the forum, if it still working for pictures/attachments purposes, it should work everywhere...
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I know who Sticks is, but what did he do that made him the anti-Christ of the forum?
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:11 PM
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I agree Naige, totally worthless to do stats in this case, but I think there's a bug somewhere in the stats in some parts of the forum, if it still working for pictures/attachments purposes, it should work everywhere...
Agreed.........................
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:26 PM
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I'm totally confused. guess I wouldn't make a very good spy. Intriguing thread though, very James Bond ish
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:34 PM
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I know who Sticks is, but what did he do that made him the anti-Christ of the forum?
He isn't regarded as such, but he is the forum's most infamous/reinvent/switch IP bounce back lurker. I only mention him in fun :)
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I know who Sticks is, but what did he do that made him the anti-Christ of the forum?
Very long story but he's an ex-member that did enough insulting of others members to earn a permanent ban and an instant ban when he comes back under another username.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:52 PM
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ive noticed this too anndy and even when re-visiting threads, the one over count doesnt change??? something verryyyy clandestine going on here and im a little worried.....
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:07 PM
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Got the post count deal - no problem, but look at threads before the reboot, & you'll see an exponentially bigger count of views than posts (i.e. 24 replies, 374 views). Since the reboot, the number of views is only ever 1 more than the number of replies. Have we been culling lurkers?
That might be due to the fact that several posts were deleted. However, it would appear the reply or view tallies remained the same.

I know I lost about a dozen posts after the reboot.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:54 PM
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I'd tell you who the spy is but then I'd have to kill you. ;)
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Prior to the reboot, views were tallied continuously. It is possible that they are now only being tallied every so often, but I don't think that's the case. I think something is broken.

Either that, or there's a spy among us. Lord knows it ain't me. I'm way too dumb to be a spy, lol.
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I know who Sticks is, but what did he do that made him the anti-Christ of the forum?
Conspiracy theory #1: Sticks was responsible for the site crashing in the first place....
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Have we been culling lurkers?
I don't feel culled.
I'll slip quietly back into the shadows now.
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There's definitely something wrong, since even if the system only counts logged-in users, no thread at all has more than +1 views than replies. I viewed this thread yesterday, and it hasn't shown up on the post listing for now, but I'm betting after this post is done it'll go up by 1 sometime soon.
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Hahahahaha!! Then I think that would be Andy, lol!
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Damn! No wonder I was finding it so difficult to catch the b*&%ard ;)
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When did this "reboot" happen? I'm not on everyday, so did I miss something?

I have noticed the plus one thing, though!
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Okay I am amused. I thought this was a drum forum not an extention of the CIA. If I was mistaken sorry about that or someone is just being paranoid.
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I think the lurking spy is a jealous Guru competitor....

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He is coming for us all

This spy wants all of your best drum secrets and they want to come in and see all of your gear.

Watch out! Keep all of your drumming secrets hidden away so this spy cannot get them.
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I think the lurking spy is a jealous Guru competitor....

(Andy, can I get my free snare now?)
I don't think from what I've seen that Guru has any competitors. And I just stole your free snare.
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