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Old 01-02-2019, 08:04 PM
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Best new SOLID shell ALL-walnut snare 5-6.5 x 14" out there, US or otherwise? Must be under $1000, looking to buy
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:12 PM
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Guru has sold all of their walnut snares, so that's no longer an option.
The Guru 7" X 13" is exceptional if you can pry it out of anybody's hands.

Noble & Cooley SS Classic steam bent Walnut would be my first choice.
The 6" X 14" SS Classic is an incredibly versatile sounding snare.
Otherwise consider their 7" X 14' SS Classic Walnut.

Also Carolina Drumworks makes a mighty fine steam bent single ply Walnut
snare to your specs.
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:30 PM
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thanks - I know N&C, but never heard of Carolina Drumworks. Seems like N&C is better choice? Or have you played Carolina Drumworks walnut?

Which would be better resale?
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:34 PM
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thanks - I know N&C, but never heard of Carolina Drumworks. Seems like N&C is better choice? Or have you played Carolina Drumworks walnut?

Which would be better resale?
N&C is a better known name so automatically gets higher resale - but that also means that CDW is probably going to be a more economical option.

I echo Vintage Old School on the Guru 7x13" - I got the last one and I'll probably never buy another wood-shell snare drum again.
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Craviotto steambent should be on this list too.

IMO, steambent or segmented is the best sounding construction...for any wood. Not a fan of stave construction, but they would probably be preferable to a ply shell.

Not that ply shells sound bad, they don't at all. But you did ask for what we think is the best.
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thanks - I know N&C, but never heard of Carolina Drumworks. Seems like N&C is better choice? Or have you played Carolina Drumworks walnut?

Which would be better resale?
I have both Noble & Cooley and Carolina Drumworks Walnut snares and I like them both. They're slightly
different to my ear, so not knowing what exact sound you're after, it's really hard to say which is best.
They're both great companies to work with. Walnut availability and sizes are a bit more limited at Noble & Cooley.
I think Walnut may be very limited productions from N&C. Jeff at CDW is great to work with. You may be able to
get sizes from CDW that are not available from N&C.

Craviotto is another option. It's a bit breathier and more "airy" sounding, but brand new will exceed your budget.

I also have a used SOTA (State of the Art Percussion) Walnut segmented snare that is killer. Problem is if you can
ever locate one. I looked 28 years for a used SOTA Walnut shell before locating one for sale.

Noble & Cooley will likely be the better resale value--also quicker, easier to resell. But you need to trust your ears
first and foremost in the sound you're after.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:15 PM
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I echo Vintage Old School on the Guru 7x13" - I got the last one and I'll probably never buy another wood-shell snare drum again.
Al, I nearly pulled the trigger on your exact 7" X 13" Guru segmented Walnut!
Please contact me if you ever decide to sell it.
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If one does pop up within your budget.

14x6,5 Walnut or Butternut Craviotto After 26 years, I can truly say this is the best and most versatile snare I have ever played.


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Al, I nearly pulled the trigger on your exact 7" X 13" Guru segmented Walnut!
Please contact me if you ever decide to sell it.
If I ever become completely bereft of my senses, you mean? I cannot put this snare down, it's so good. I played my Black Magic the other day and even though I love that drum, it felt like driving a Prius after using a Bugatti Veyron for three months.

But you are first on my list if I do need to will it off and I haven't got any suitable heirs.
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:25 PM
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thanks greatly for everyones input - I know its really about sound, problem is I can't test the Craviotto or Carolina Drumworks (did play briefly the N&C) so needed you guys to chime in...

Sounds like y'all are saying can't go wrong with either N&C, Craviotto, or Carolina walnut versions. I'll need to do some price research.
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Another vote of confidence here for Noble and Cooley if they have any walnut supplies left. I recommend emailing Nick Jones and ask him cost and availability of a steambent walnut in the size you want.
Great guy and family owned business to work with.
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Old 01-03-2019, 03:22 PM
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thank you

just emailed him
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Old 01-03-2019, 11:36 PM
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I own the pictured 6" x 14" Walnut SS Noble and Cooley snare drum.
It was # 4 of a limited run of 22 . It is maybe the best wood shell snare I have ever owned or played. I am a huge fan of walnut snare drums. I also own a 6.5" N&C Walnut Horizontal ply snare as well. Both snares are excellent.

Walnut is so rich and expressive with lots of bottom end and a lower fundamental and still very articulate.
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beautiful. So are those chrome lugs? Die cast hoop or? Whats the advantage of chrome over their brass lugs?

And is the 6" more desirable than the 5"? More resell as well if I ever had to?
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I'd throw Hendrix stave walnut in the ring. Vertical grain orientation. Top quality. Look and sound great. You did say solid though so I guess you just want a steambent.
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Never played any of these, but I heard Brady makes a really high quality walnut snare

But you can't go wrong with craviotto or noble and cooley. And a snare from any of these companies will either hold or gain value over time

If money wasn't a factor then that would be my top 3 options
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beautiful. So are those chrome lugs? Die cast hoop or? Whats the advantage of chrome over their brass lugs?
I'm curious, what is your agenda? Multiple threads about some pretty expensive gear, the resale value is a big concern, yet you can't tell the difference between die cast and flanged hoops. Are we buying a Ferrari before learning to drive?
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Never played any of these, but I heard Brady makes a really high quality walnut snare

But you can't go wrong with craviotto or noble and cooley. And a snare from any of these companies will either hold or gain value over time

If money wasn't a factor then that would be my top 3 options
To the best of my knowledge Brady doesn’t make Walnut snares. They make snares from Wanda, Jarrah and SheOak
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Al, I nearly pulled the trigger on your exact 7" X 13" Guru segmented Walnut!
Please contact me if you ever decide to sell it.
It's possible - just possible - I might have a shell I'd forgotten to factor into the final builds. Not sure what size, but I'll let you know if it becomes a reality. Equally possible, I might be a confused old git, so I'm holding back for now :)
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It's possible - just possible - I might have a shell I'd forgotten to factor into the final builds. Not sure what size, but I'll let you know if it becomes a reality. Equally possible, I might be a confused old git, so I'm holding back for now :)
Thanks Andy! Let me know.
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no agenda - juts getting back into drums after 20 years and am starting to look at more serious works of musical art that sound great...trying to educate myself on these things

I've got a new maple DW performance kit 6 piece with 5.5 x14 maple snare, DW 6.5x14 1mm aluminum, Yamaha 3.5x14 piccolo from 1983, and just wanted to round out things with a solid walnut - maybe a 5 or 6 inch from somebody

Thanks for all answers - helping me - looks like N&C may do the trick.
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no agenda - juts getting back into drums after 20 years and am starting to look at more serious works of musical art that sound great...trying to educate myself on these things

I've got a new maple DW performance kit 6 piece with 5.5 x14 maple snare, DW 6.5x14 1mm aluminum, Yamaha 3.5x14 piccolo from 1983, and just wanted to round out things with a solid walnut - maybe a 5 or 6 inch from somebody

Thanks for all answers - helping me - looks like N&C may do the trick.
I see, well that's one heck of a way to start! Enjoy your snares, and maybe do a comparison of them and tell us what you think once you get them dialed in.
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For a "cheaper" option, the PDP/DW Limited Edition 7.5" x 14" pictured below goes for $299 new. EDIT: I just realized it's 20 ply with 18 maple plies with inner and outer ply of walnut. They also do a triple flanged hoop model in a few different sizes.

Obviously not as nice as a Craviatto or Noble & Cooley, but doesn't come with the hefty price tag either. I got to play around with one for about 15 minutes. It sounded fantastic, even with the stock heads. I don't like deep snares, but this one had me changing my mind. Woody and Throaty!

Also, I have to give a shout out to my buddy Rob at Holloman Custom Drums. It's a father and son operation and the build quality and construction quality is absolutely outstanding. Their drums sound fantastic and look gorgeous! They would be happy to do a walnut for you in any size/depth you would like.

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If its a 100% handmade solid-shell american black walnut snare you're looking for, make sure you check out Hovland Drums. Kirk Hovland hand-carves his shells from the tress in his own ranch! They have 3/4th inch shell thickness with 55deg bearing edges, snares usually come with die-casts or s-hoops and trick throw-off as standard. Had mine for about 2-years, I take it everywhere with me and it performs incredibly well on sessions and shows of all styles.

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thanks for the link to hovland - nice looking and interesting info
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If its a 100% handmade solid-shell american black walnut snare you're looking for, make sure you check out Hovland Drums. Kirk Hovland hand-carves his shells from the tress in his own ranch! They have 3/4th inch shell thickness with 55deg bearing edges, snares usually come with die-casts or s-hoops and trick throw-off as standard. Had mine for about 2-years, I take it everywhere with me and it performs incredibly well on sessions and shows of all styles.

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Those are beautiful. I’ve got a walnut hollow log set on order from Antonio Drums. I wish Hovland would do whole kits. I’d rather have a kit made in this country, just because international shipping is sometimes a pain.
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https://memphisdrumshop.com/tama-14-...drum-pwn146nwn

The sound on this one is amazing.
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Those are beautiful. I’ve got a walnut hollow log set on order from Antonio Drums. I wish Hovland would do whole kits. I’d rather have a kit made in this country, just because international shipping is sometimes a pain.
I know Kirk is now making blanks for his lathe for full kits, although I'm not sure when the aim to have full kits in production will be. Worth keeping an eye out! Obviously to build a solid shell Black Walnut kit would be insanely time consuming and after owning one of his 14x8 snares, ridiculously heavy to transport and ship!
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I know Kirk is now making blanks for his lathe for full kits, although I'm not sure when the aim to have full kits in production will be. Worth keeping an eye out! Obviously to build a solid shell Black Walnut kit would be insanely time consuming and after owning one of his 14x8 snares, ridiculously heavy to transport and ship!
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If its a 100% handmade solid-shell american black walnut snare you're looking for, make sure you check out Hovland Drums. Kirk Hovland hand-carves his shells from the tress in his own ranch! They have 3/4th inch shell thickness with 55deg bearing edges, snares usually come with die-casts or s-hoops and trick throw-off as standard. Had mine for about 2-years, I take it everywhere with me and it performs incredibly well on sessions and shows of all styles.

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What's one of those bad boys cost?
He did have the prices on his site for a little while - so of course is depends on the drum dimensions, but from what I remember (and don't quote me on this!) I think they vary between 1200USD and 1800USD.
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