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Old 10-25-2018, 05:14 AM
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So these little Yamahas and the Ludwig student snare are turning out to be a fun kit to play. I set the Zoom Q8 up to my left and shot across and just hit the record button to catch a groove. And this is where I wanted to demonstrate "internalizing" the time. I think your body needs to be involved with playing time, and I do it to some extent with how my upper body sways. I like to think my head is bobbing a little bit as well. But if the time is internalized, then it's just a matter of mechanics to get your limbs to play in time.

If you notice, the bass drum is moving quite a bit. And that's with the new heavy duty spurs installed. Imagine how bad it would be if I stuck to those original disappearing Gretsch spurs?

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Old 10-25-2018, 06:29 AM
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Pretty cool! Those look like EC2 heads - do you like them? I use coated EC2s on my smaller kit (birch cross ply) and they seem to level the high end tones.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:15 AM
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Pretty cool! Those look like EC2 heads - do you like them? I use coated EC2s on my smaller kit (birch cross ply) and they seem to level the high end tones.
I had these EC2's leftover from another kit and they seem to work well with this mystery wood thin shell Yamaha. The bass drum has a EQ4 batter head with a full PowerStroke 3 on the front. The snare has a coated G2. All in all, the Evans work well here. But on my pro level kit, I've stuck with Remos. Thanks for watching!
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:30 PM
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..And this is where I wanted to demonstrate "internalizing" the time. I think your body needs to be involved with playing time..

To be honest, i also read your comment to GetAgrippa in his Moanin'-thread and i have no idea what you are trying to demonstrate here..

There are drummers with a fantastic deep groove who almost not move at all while playing, see for example this..:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglvBageLfk

And there are also drummers who look like they are completely into the groove, when you only see them play, but who completely fail..

See for example this..:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8QSCeZihE
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Old 10-25-2018, 11:51 PM
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To be honest, i also read your comment to GetAgrippa in his Moanin'-thread and i have no idea what you are trying to demonstrate here..

There are drummers with a fantastic deep groove who almost not move at all while playing, see for example this..:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xglvBageLfk

And there are also drummers who look like they are completely into the groove, when you only see them play, but who completely fail..

See for example this..:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8QSCeZihE
Oh I thought we were gonna get to see you play.
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Old 10-26-2018, 12:56 AM
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..Oh I thought we were gonna get to see you play..

That implies a little that i criticized your playing or something like that, which i have not..

I am just not getting what you are demonstrating or why some sort of body movement would be the only way to show that a drummer 'internalized' time..Ofcourse time needs to be in someones entire body, but if a drummer 'internalized' time, his/her hands and feet will tell that and not necessarily the way how (or if) they shake bodyparts..Also not every fantastic drummer will be a fantastic dancer..Different things..

Thats why i posted 2 obvious examples, at least in my opinion, and i am not seeing the relevance of me being a crap drummer or not..
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Old 10-26-2018, 10:43 AM
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Nice work !
I'm surprised how high you sit !
The bass drum must be light weight, great idea you had to replace the old unreliable spurs.
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Old 10-27-2018, 09:42 PM
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I think how you physically move when you play has a big effect on your timekeeping and feel. I think itís worth paying attention to what movements work for you and to make those movements become hardwired so you donít even have to think about them. I find the more I develop consistency in my movement, the more consistent my playing becomes. I think a lot of the so-called ď10,000 hoursĒ stuff is about working those movements out, even if thatís not a conscious focus.
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Everybody is different. If I move too much that's not good for my time. A little is OK. Sometimes it just feels right. When that's happening, I feel like I'm locked in.
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And there are also drummers who look like they are completely into the groove, when you only see them play, but who completely fail..

See for example this..:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu8QSCeZihE
I love what one of the commenters said in response to the second video

"kline, you got no more soul than a tennis shoe, forget it, try something else"

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Old 10-28-2018, 05:33 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFRZrX34HNY

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Nice playing, man!

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