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Old 08-09-2018, 02:04 AM
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No this is different. This is what happens when you get old. Iím 69 years old.

Iíve been gigging once or twice a month. Last month I picked up a weekly gig every Tuesday night.
The muscles in my right lower thumb area started hurting. Very sore. Not when I play but when I open and close my hand.

I discovered what it was. I have been using only my right hand to tighten and loosen all of my drum hardware thumb screws.
And there are a lot of them. And sometimes they get stuck and are hard to loosen.

Last night I tried using my left hand on the thumb screws. Now my right hand feels betterÖÖ.. Scheese! Getting old sucks. I need a Roadie.


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Old 08-09-2018, 02:16 AM
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Save your thumbs, use your sticks to loosen any stuck wingnuts. Basically clamp the wingnut between two sticks and turn. Ain't science awesome?!
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:28 AM
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Save your thumbs, use your sticks to loosen any stuck wingnuts. Basically clamp the wingnut between two sticks and turn. Ain't science awesome?!
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:30 AM
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OK just for fun I counted how many thumb screws I have to tighten each time I set up my drums.
It's 32. And of course I need to loosen them too. No wonder my thumb hurts.


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Old 08-09-2018, 03:53 AM
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It would be nice if this type of knob were used.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:49 AM
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Hi Jim

Couple of ideas, for years I used to just fold the legs up on my stands and put them in the back footwell of my car, that saves a few thumb screws especially if you're using big heavy duty stands.

Or there's going to lightweight stands, the thumb screws are really light and you don't have to tighten them as much as old stands. I'm 34 and I travel light. They're very sturdy.

Other than that there's using a bit of grease to keep everything smooth.

The other thing is you're right handed, my left hand is strongest so when I'm loosening stuff I'm using my wrist more. Righty tighty, lefty loosey :)
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:46 AM
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Another suggestion....I use light gloves to move all gear. Gloves may help.
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Gibraltar makes a gadget that will help tighten and loosen wing nuts. I may have to get one soon as I am 61. Peace and goodwill.
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Ever tried min-vise-grips or small pliers?
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:36 PM
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Gibraltar makes a gadget that will help tighten and loosen wing nuts. I may have to get one soon as I am 61. Peace and goodwill.
I just checked it out. OMG. Your right!
I am going to buy one of those gadgets and Iíll report back here.

Thank you so much Drumolator!!!!


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Old 08-09-2018, 02:41 PM
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Ever tried min-vise-grips or small pliers?
Thanks. Yes I have pliers in my truck but I donít use them. Usually only one screw is hard to loosen. And you know, always in a hurry.....


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I donīt know about your fingers, but certainly you are going to destroy all the screws of your hardware tighten them so hard. Why this? Are you trying to throw it unfolded to the audience? (haha).

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No this is different. This is what happens when you get old. I’m 69 years old.

I’ve been gigging once or twice a month. Last month I picked up a weekly gig every Tuesday night.
The muscles in my right lower thumb area started hurting. Very sore. Not when I play but when I open and close my hand.

I discovered what it was. I have been using only my right hand to tighten and loosen all of my drum hardware thumb screws.
And there are a lot of them. And sometimes they get stuck and are hard to loosen.

Last night I tried using my left hand on the thumb screws. Now my right hand feels better…….. Scheese! Getting old sucks. I need a Roadie.


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Ha, ha, ha. Not too funny really-I can relate. For about the last three years the base of my two thumbs have been killing me-I was told it was arthritis. It was ridiculous got where I couldn't hold my drum sticks normal and French grip would really aggravate it. My grip was gone. I settled in-it was "old age". Well whatever it was it's now gone-no pain at all and all my thumb agility back (I had restricted movement). I've always had strong hands and this was a huge blow to hand strength-couldn't open a pickle bottle. Now my hands work again, but I still have loss strength-but I'm good as long as no pain. I don't know how-I just kept going and was actually doing lots of rudiments, but I was stretching and working my thumbs. The screws would kill my thumbs-I tried the drum stick trick-but now keep pliers handy but really only use it on hi hat clutch (reminds me I need a new one). I hope yours miraculously subsides too man-it's a huge pain in the ass. My bro-in-law has rheumatoid and his hands are disfigured and he has trouble-after my short experience of minor trouble it opened my eyes.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:02 PM
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I donīt know about your fingers, but certainly you are going to destroy all the screws of your hardware tighten them so hard. Why this? Are you trying to throw it unfolded to the audience? (haha).

Get well!
Yes I am quickly realizing I donít have to tighten the wing screws so tight anymore. Iíve got new hardware. Thanks.
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Old 08-09-2018, 05:07 PM
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Ha, ha, ha. Not too funny really-I can relate. For about the last three years the base of my two thumbs have been killing me-I was told it was arthritis. It was ridiculous got where I couldn't hold my drum sticks normal and French grip would really aggravate it. My grip was gone. I settled in-it was "old age". Well whatever it was it's now gone-no pain at all and all my thumb agility back (I had restricted movement). I've always had strong hands and this was a huge blow to hand strength-couldn't open a pickle bottle. Now my hands work again, but I still have loss strength-but I'm good as long as no pain. I don't know how-I just kept going and was actually doing lots of rudiments, but I was stretching and working my thumbs. The screws would kill my thumbs-I tried the drum stick trick-but now keep pliers handy but really only use it on hi hat clutch (reminds me I need a new one). I hope yours miraculously subsides too man-it's a huge pain in the ass. My bro-in-law has rheumatoid and his hands are disfigured and he has trouble-after my short experience of minor trouble it opened my eyes.
Good news. Yes Iím wondering how long Iíll be able to play drums. Will I be able to play at 80 or 90 years old? Actually set up and tear down is way more work than playing. My Dad was gigging and playing drums until the day he died at 82 years old.


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I used to turn my thumbs to pulp on those damn thumb screws, its not just you Hollywood. I noticed these pains and worried about it in my 20's. I def figured out the stick trick, although I thought it was shameful or a no no for some reason and felt like it was wimpy of me, but screw that, I need my little thumbs working and feeling good! Find what works and play in perpetuity!
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Saw this not too long ago . Made by a drummer. I Just re read his site story (pretty cool). Think Iíll pick one up

http://www.crabbytools.com/
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That looks handy, but I don't think it's necessary to tighten stands that tight.
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It is not the tighten part I have trouble; it is the untighten part, especially my cowbell. So I do not use it often although some of our songs need it. Peace and goodwill.
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Each year I pull apart my hardware then clean and lubricate all the moving parts. As a result I never have to tighten anything above medium finger tight.
I never need to use sticks or pliers to tighten or release a wing bolt.
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Each year I pull apart my hardware then clean and lubricate all the moving parts. As a result I never have to tighten anything above medium finger tight.
I never need to use sticks or pliers to tighten or release a wing bolt.
Very very good idea Morrisman. I recently cleaned and lubricated my floor tom leg clamps. Now they work great!

Just to finish this thread, I have been using my left hand to tighten and loosen wing nuts. Now my right hand feels much better.

I rarely over tighten wing nuts. But I just got one of these Gibraltar wing nut tools. It works great. I just have to remember not to use it to tighten the wing nuts. I want to use it ONLY to loosen the wing nuts. Thanks Drumolator for the heads up on this Gibralter tool!!!!!





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You are welcome. Gibraltar rocks! Peace and goodwill.
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