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Old 01-01-2018, 07:23 AM
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Default Who invented the push pull technique?

George Stone?
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Old 01-01-2018, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: Who invented the push pull technique?

Not quite sure who started it, but I consider Gordy Knudtson as the modern ambassador for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld1pOsCB2FY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJL8wZCky7Q&t=323s

According to this, Jimmy Chapin said Billy Gladstone was playing with it, but never took it as far as Gordy.
https://www.gk-music.com/product/sin...ose-technique/
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Who invented the push pull technique?

It probably just happened naturally, with multiple people over time. I remember discovering it on my own when I was about 12 or 13, but didnít have the sense to do much with it at the time, because I hadnít noticed anyone else doing it. I didnít start messing with it much until I read an article by Gordy Knudtson back in the late 90s.
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Who invented the push pull technique?

I saw a vid in which Buddy did it with his right hand at blistering speed. It may have been from the "At the Top" video but not exactly sure.
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: Who invented the push pull technique?

I imagine that it wasn't invented, but rather it just started happening with various people. As they noticed what was happening, they started to focus on it and hone it, making a distinction between that and other techniques. I think it was George Kolias that said his swivel technique on his kick drum, just started happening on it's own. When he realized what he was doing, he started doing it on purpose, and focusing on it.
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Old 01-02-2018, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: Who invented the push pull technique?

That's an interesting technique but I wonder about its "dangers" for older, beginning drummers. I've already dealt with carpal tunnel and trigger finger having returned to drumming after a 25 yr. hiatus and played catch-up on the rudiments. I got the shots and recovered. Meanwhile my friend and mentor decided to get back into drumming after a similar break and developed trigger finger. I decided to work on matched grip to allow my left hand to heal a bit after trad grip led to the carpal tunnel problems and I can feel the trigger finger tightness developing in my left hand and will stay away from the push-pull technique.
But for younger drummers it's probably not a problem.
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