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Old 11-08-2008, 11:38 PM
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I have this problem that when I play really fast (ecspecially during snare and tom rolls) my forearms tend to tense up and hurt.
Any tips on how to adjust my arm position?
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:51 PM
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Is it possible you have carpel tunnel syndrome?
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:58 PM
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Never really checked.
Im only 15, is it commom to have carpel tunnel when your 15?
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:11 PM
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I dunno, I'm only 14
EDIT: Apparently not, I just found this:Women are three times more likely than men to develop carpal tunnel syndrome, perhaps because the carpal tunnel itself may be smaller in women than in men. The dominant hand is usually affected first and produces the most severe pain. Persons with diabetes or other metabolic disorders that directly affect the body's nerves and make them more susceptible to compression are also at high risk. Carpal tunnel syndrome usually occurs only in adults.

And your symptoms are totally different, it's very unlikely now that I think about it. Sorry, mate, I dunno how to help
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:07 PM
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Thanks tho,
atleast now I know that I probably don't have carpel tunnel. Sigh of relief.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:22 PM
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My guess is that when you play your fast fills, you tense up. That's only my guess...but my recommended "medication" would be simply to loosen up.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:40 PM
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atleast now I know that I probably don't have carpel tunnel. Sigh of relief.
Not so fast, while it may not be likely I had a friend who got it at the age of 13 and had to wear a cast. It still happens.
Not from something like drumming, guitar, or lacrosse where you can get it, but from xbox. He gotta lot of crap for that.
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Well your hands should always be relaxed to a certain extent when you play, and only tense up when your trying to go too fast. Maybe the pain is from tensing to much. I'm not sure, just putting it out there
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:33 PM
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Nevermind,
I realized i was arcing my arms while fast rolls, i doesn't happen anymore.
thanks tho
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Old 11-10-2008, 08:44 PM
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Get relax, get your mind over the pain...continue playing!
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Get relax, get your mind over the pain...continue playing!
This would probably make it worse. Playing through the pain is BAD.
I would probably do some streches before you play, and just try and relax. It will take a long time to be fully relaxed when playing very fast.
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I have this problem that when I play really fast (ecspecially during snare and tom rolls) my forearms tend to tense up and hurt.
Any tips on how to adjust my arm position?
If you're talking fast rolls it's good to get your forearms on top of the stick and play by pumping the forearms so that your wrists get a break.

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In case any of you don't recognize Bill Bachman's name, you should know that we just received advice from one of the world's greatest hand technicians.

Nice to have you here on the forum, Bill. We can use your insights.
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I have this problem that when I play really fast (ecspecially during snare and tom rolls) my forearms tend to tense up and hurt. Any tips on how to adjust my arm position?
I do many things but vain.

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its clear to me that you need technique

if dont already have a teacher....I suggest you find one before you do some damage that will hinder your playing for life

you are young so I would not expect you have any tendinitis just yet.....but I would bet if you continue playing the way you do that it will develop over time

this can all be avoided simply with technique
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I would also mention the anatomy of the hands and arms in that the only muscles in the hands are basically to move the thumbs, and the muscles in the fingers are in the forearms and underneath. Sounds to me like cramping and that would be finger technique. Try a teacher and have him/her look at your grips etc.
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check the positioning of your drums.

no one has complained of pain more than me on this forum.

i found that (one example) that if my hi-hat isn't set high enough my left wrist hurts BAD. problem was that i smack the snare HARD. with only about 4 inches (between snare drum head and hi-hat), that wasn't enough room for me to get a good whack going and with EXTRA HARD smacks in that small space i whipped my wrist pretty awkwardly. i need at least 7 inches in order to do what i do.

snare drum should be at an appropriate (for you - only you can determine) height too. i found that when it was too low, my ears would pop like when you're on a plane or in the mountains. not while i was playing, mind you, just all week long, at any old time. don't ask me why, but it stopped when i returned the snare to a higher position.

i have also found that when the heads go dead, i - (a) hit harder and (b) my fulcrum moves more towards the middle of the stick. and it hurts. all the way from around the wrist to along the underside of my forearm up to the elbow (just underneath the elbow in a parallel line).

drums have been very difficult for me. i quit from June through July because MY WHOLE BODY ached. i'm still not sure why from my kness to my ankles have stopped hurting, but i'm glad it did. i think because i moved my hi-hat more right and forward.

many people say technique is the problem. me personally, i found drum position(ing) to be the cause of a lot of my pain. and dead heads. new snare heads bounce so much that my fulcrum is just fingertips on the END of my sticks. as the head gets deader my fulcrum moves to a more normal position. as get get truly dead, my fulcrum moves to almost the middle of the stick - and my wrist begins to hurt.

it has taken me four years to get to understand these things about myself. i would say continue to experiment with positioning - move your kit closer together. scrunch it in tight. work with the angles of tilt. i find that if i move one drum, i've got to move them all to get the UNIT working as a whole (comfortable whole).

i don't know how some drummers play their hi-hat so far to the left. the way the legs of your snare drum are turned may allow you to get things scrunched to a better position. and silly me, i only noticed this year, that the indents in the legs cymbal stands allow you to slip the legs of the floor tom closer into position.

minute (small) changes in positioning can have a big effect on the over-all comfort of the kit.

it's good to take a break when your body hurts. maybe not a month, but maybe a week or two - til you stop hurting. if you play through your pain, you may never know if you have gotton your positioning in the best place for you - because it still hurts from BEFORE.

just don't stop playing. i'm a better drummer than i ever thought i would be, and the comradary (sp) on this forum is wonderful.

even if i am just a dirty rotten no-account guitar player.

and i am.
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:07 PM
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In case any of you don't recognize Bill Bachman's name, you should know that we just received advice from one of the world's greatest hand technicians.

Nice to have you here on the forum, Bill. We can use your insights.
that's good to know. thanks. i will be listening to his advice.
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Not so fast, while it may not be likely I had a friend who got it at the age of 13 and had to wear a cast. It still happens.
Not from something like drumming, guitar, or lacrosse where you can get it, but from xbox. He gotta lot of crap for that.
Oh man, I got tendonitis last year because I'd practice drums and then go play video games for hours without taking a break. I got physical therapy and I'm much better now, but this is the best advice I can give a new drummer - take a break! lol
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:01 PM
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Your probably over arching your arms, I used to do the same thing when I was 15, I think. Doc
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Holy necro thread batman!

Good tips though for anyone (like me) who happens to stumble onto this thread.
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