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Old 12-31-2018, 11:27 PM
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Default 1983 Yamaha brass piccolo or new DW 4x14 brass

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Getting back into drums after 20 years away (last kit I had was a custom maple FIBES 1998) - I now bought a new DW performance black diamond 6 piece maple, with 5.5x14 maple snare - also bought a new DW 6.5 x14 1mm aluminum snare

SO I also bought a great condition used 14x3.5 Yamaha brass piccolo snare made in 1983...

question is I just saw DW made a 4x14 brass snare. Between the DW and Old Yamaha piccolo which would you choose? Thinking of selling my Yamaha to get the DW, but not sure, and I can't try the DW out before I buy, so what do y'all think?
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Old 01-02-2019, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: 1983 Yamaha brass piccolo or new DW 4x14 brass

If it's one of these, the Yamaha SD-493: https://reverb.com/p/yamaha-sd-493-1...olo-snare-drum ...then I'd stick with that for sure. Seamless heavy-gauge shell, amazing rimshot sounds. Used by lots of "the greats" back in the '80s (Weckl, Colaiuta, etc.)

The DW is likely a rolled/welded shell too, unlike the spun shell on the Yamaha.
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Old 01-02-2019, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: 1983 Yamaha brass piccolo or new DW 4x14 brass

Thanks for reply - very helpful. Yes, my Yamaha is the one in the link.
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Old 01-02-2019, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: 1983 Yamaha brass piccolo or new DW 4x14 brass

I own both and they are very different sounding drums.
I find the Yamaha a bit more bright and sensitive and the DW more rounded and dark.
In the end ,it just comes down to personnel preference.

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Old 01-02-2019, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: 1983 Yamaha brass piccolo or new DW 4x14 brass

thanks for that - I'll keep my Yamaha piccolo and pass on the DW.
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Old 01-04-2019, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: 1983 Yamaha brass piccolo or new DW 4x14 brass

To me the Yamaha has more of the crack I prefer.
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:49 PM
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Those Yamaha Piccolo snares were not the easiest to get consistently good results from. The snare straining mechanism wasn't great, and those one point lugs weren't the greatest design. Yamaha may come out with new Piccolo snares in the next few years now that they have a new strainer that will fit (from the new Tour Custom snares).

Personally, I think 5" is as shallow as you want to go.
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:46 AM
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Disagree, the snare bed on the piccolo with the wire snares pulled equally on both sides and the exension of the snare wires make it more precise!
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Those Yamaha Piccolo snares were not the easiest to get consistently good results from. The snare straining mechanism wasn't great, and those one point lugs weren't the greatest design. Yamaha may come out with new Piccolo snares in the next few years now that they have a new strainer that will fit (from the new Tour Custom snares).

Personally, I think 5" is as shallow as you want to go.
I own a few 4x14's and find them to be nothing but excellent in terms of quality.
i know a snare drum can be a tweaky personnel thing ,but when I play some of those drums ,it's like hand washing to a person with ADD,a burst of endorphins.

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https://reverb.com/item/18066889-yam...e-sd4103-brass

^ the Yamaha SD-4103 is a great alternative to the SD-493 too, they have simpler and more conventional lug and snare throw-off designs, but the same heavy gauge seamless brass shell!
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: 1983 Yamaha brass piccolo or new DW 4x14 brass

thanks - didn't know about this one
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^ the Yamaha SD-4103 is a great alternative to the SD-493 too, they have simpler and more conventional lug and snare throw-off designs, but the same heavy gauge seamless brass shell!
That's the one I have except mine has the aluminum die cast hoops.
Basically the Garabaldi model without the blue anodized finish.
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Default Re: 1983 Yamaha brass piccolo or new DW 4x14 brass

Originally it came with die-cast hoops. Someone changed these for Super Hoops (Yamaha's older die-cast hoops in the form of triple flanged hoops)

The Garibaldi features almost the same specs, with a different finish and more air holes.
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Pass on the DW, deciding between seamed vs seamless is a no brainer.

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