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Old 12-13-2013, 10:27 AM
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So it's that time again when I go buy a brick (12 pairs) of my usual Vic Firth regular tip 5A sticks. I walk into my local Sam Ash and grab the 12-pair bundle that's wrapped in plastic and ask what the price is. "$84 out the door", says the clerk.

That sounds about right having paid about the same a few months ago on a similar brick from the Guitar Center. But this time I decide I want to roll them all and make sure they're all straight and weighted about the same. So I give the brick back, and tell the clerk to give me all his loose pairs in the rack. I take them all out of their box sleeves and proceed to roll them. Out of the 13 pairs he had like this, I managed to come away with six straight pairs all weighted the heaviest.

I ask how much and the clerk says, "$33 out the door".

Hmm. I tell him too bad he didn't have 12 straight pairs then I'd pay $66 for all 12.

He didn't get it. I pay my money and leave.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:13 AM
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Go back next week for another six :-)
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:47 AM
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Pricing faux pas aside, the straightness/weight irregularities make buying bricks a hit & miss affair.
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:22 PM
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Cool story b(r)o.

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Old 12-13-2013, 02:27 PM
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Vic had been on fire for a while and I foolishly thought the days of rolling sticks was over so I started ordering bricks online

recently I have been getting more wobbly sticks than straight

back to rolling I guess
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:29 PM
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Pricing faux pas aside, the straightness/weight irregularities make buying bricks a hit & miss affair.
I have never had any issues with Vic firth bricks. I made the mistake of buying a couple of bricks of cheap sticks for a tour, which was an unmitigated disaster, but by and large Vic's rarely disappoint. But it is entirely possible that my standards are lower than most.
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Old 12-13-2013, 06:29 PM
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I don't know, I figure for just under $100, I want to be sure all sticks are straight and weigh the same. The fact I only found six pairs that were immediately makes buying the brick suspect. But I thought it funnier regarding the pricing so nonchalantly wrong. It pays to be paying attention ;)
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Old 12-13-2013, 06:39 PM
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Doesn't surprise me at all that he didn't catch the pricing error, and I don't mean that as an indictment of the clerk, either. When your business model compels you to pay low wages to uninvested, interchangeable workers, this is what happens.

You should have asked them to break open the brick so you could pick some more pairs! They would have to break bricks for their single-pair stock anyway.
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Old 12-13-2013, 06:50 PM
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They would have to break bricks for their single-pair stock anyway.
Not to mention, that's how that brick is already in the system. It's not a brick until it's opened, which magically becomes 12 pairs of sticks; it's 12 single pairs wrapped in plastic with single-pair SKUs.
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I like buying my bricks at Home Depot. They are all perfectly rectangular! :-)
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:14 PM
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Not to mention, that's how that brick is already in the system. It's not a brick until it's opened, which magically becomes 12 pairs of sticks; it's 12 single pairs wrapped in plastic with single-pair SKUs.
I'm not familiar with their inventory control system, but your concept may not be completely accurate. I doubt it's "not a brick 'til it's opened." The brick likely has a sku/upc of its own, and the individual pairs of sticks also have a sku/upc of their own.

There are a variety of ways things like this can be received and tracked in whatever inventory control program they use, but normally you would have a higher margin for individual pairs than bricks. These guys have it bass ackwards. In my previous life I was an operations manager for a retail company - my job was to make these things were done correctly. :)
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:48 PM
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This isn't unique to music gear and I don't think it's always a mistake. Quite often at the grocery store, I notice that the bulk size actually has a higher per-unit cost than the regular size. I'm sure reasons include retailers not noticing, production optimized for a particular size, and retailers trying to trick customers into paying extra.
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Has anyone noticed recently that the tips on VF wood sticks seem way more fragile than in the past? I've got chips coming off my Steve Jordan's in the first couple of songs out of the box.
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Bo, it seems that Musician's Friend also sells single sticks for less than the brick. It pays to check all of your options before dropping your dollar!

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Old 12-14-2013, 11:15 PM
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Bo, it seems that Musician's Friend also sells single sticks for less than the brick. It pays to check all of your options before dropping your dollar!

Wow. But in my case, I would'vesaved a whopping $18 - had they actually had another six pairs that were straight ;)

No biggie - I just wanted to point it out. It was quite funny.
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I've usually paid $20 per pair.
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Old 12-15-2013, 03:12 AM
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I've usually paid $20 per pair.
You folks down in Australia are a special case.
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