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Old 03-09-2018, 08:16 PM
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L R Rbass Lbass.
Leading with the left I assumed I could work it in during a beat and not cross the right hand over to the snare thus being more fluid. Whats the most common way to play Quads?
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:37 PM
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Is every kind of four note groupings involving one or more foot strokes called a quad?
I'm not familiar with the term.

I know that I learned the hand-foot-hand-foot thing like so: RH-LF-LH-RF.
I mostly play the one you described like this though: RH-LH-RF-LF (or RF twice).
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:58 PM
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I mostly play the one you described like this though: RH-LH-RF-LF (or RF twice).
I figured that was it, seeing and talking to others always starting with the RH. Wasn't sure of the foot order though. I do the same except lead with the LH. If you changed and started with the LH, would you tend to change your foot order? In other words, most go RLRL and I go LRRL. I'm wondering if this could be a reason I'm having trouble with evenness.
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Old 03-10-2018, 01:50 AM
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In a playing situation I'll probably do like SM.

I do however practice every combnation, go through SC with 2 hands+2 feet and leading with the left orks just as well for me if I consciously chose to do that, just not very likely that I'll do that while playing, but the quality comes from working it several ways and focusing on control.
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Old 03-10-2018, 01:57 AM
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I don't ever do those with a left foot lead but, I think it's important to learn to lead with either hand to increase your options around the kit.

For example snare-tom1-kick-kick would be right hand lead, while snare-floor-kick-kick would be left hand lead.

You can get creative by replacing a drum note with an effects cymbal, hi hat, bell, etc, and you'll need to be able to lead with either hand to maximize your creativity.

This would all apply to other things besides quads, like triplets, or something like LH-RH-K-K-K-K.
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If you changed and started with the LH, would you tend to change your foot order?
When I want to go Sn-Sn-BD-BD, I definitely play RH-LH-RF-LF, because that's
my strongest and will be the tightest. But when I want to orchestrate it otherwise,
say including some toms or even cymbals, I might as well spontaneously change
the order of sticking according to the place my hands need to go. For example:

FT-Sn-BD-BD followed by HH-10"T-BD-BD would be RH-LH-RF-LF LH-RH-RF-LF.
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:30 PM
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At least I practiced correctly with RF LF with what ever combo I do.
I remember Greg Bissonette saying at a clinic that he started leading with his LF when doing rolls so the LF would be in sync with the LH, but later acknowledged that was not the best way. Why reverse everything, then reverse again when coming out within a song.
That's why I started learning to lead with my LH when doing Quads LH RH RF LF so nothing changed within the already established pattern.
There is a time I lead with the RH though.
Basic patterns I use.
LH RH RF LF
* RH LH RH RF LF *
LH RH LH RH RF LF sometimes slowing the riff down by starting the LH on the and of one.
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That's why I started learning to lead with my LH when doing Quads LH RH RF LF so nothing changed within the already established pattern.
What's the established pattern you're playing before you start the quads?
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What's the established pattern you're playing before you start the quads?
A common pattern such as the snare on 2 and 4 or cut time on 1 2 3 4.
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But (assuming you play that right handed) when you're playing 8th notes with
your right hand on the hihat, starting your quads with the right hand as well
would actually be perfectly in line with the movements, as the first note of the
quad would be just like another 8th note, only on the snare instead of the HH.

Plus, should you play the quads as 32nds the RH would actually be going on
playing 8ths.

So I don't really see a "need" for leading with the LH, but neither of the variations
would be right or wrong anyway.
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But (assuming you play that right handed) when you're playing 8th notes with
your right hand on the hihat, starting your quads with the right hand as well
would actually be perfectly in line with the movements, as the first note of the
quad would be just like another 8th note, only on the snare instead of the HH.

Plus, should you play the quads as 32nds the RH would actually be going on
playing 8ths.

So I don't really see a "need" for leading with the LH, but neither of the variations
would be right or wrong anyway.
Thanks. I understand more why everyone leads with the RH. That's my thinking on bass rolls leading with the RF. Of course as usual, I over thought and had things bassackwards. Hot for teacher may have also influenced the left lead.
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But check this out: You may know the famous R-L-F lick (often in triplets).
When you also practice it as L-R-F, you can then mix the two stickings inside
a lick and get interesting rhythms if you i.e. stay on the snare with the LH,
and keep the RH on the floor tom. Like:

R-L-F R-L-F L-R-F R-L-F as in:
FT-Sn-BD FT-Sn-BD Sn-FT-BD FT-Sn-BD
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But check this out: You may know the famous R-L-F lick (often in triplets).
When you also practice it as L-R-F, you can then mix the two stickings inside
a lick and get interesting rhythms if you i.e. stay on the snare with the LH,
and keep the RH on the floor tom. Like:

R-L-F R-L-F L-R-F R-L-F as in:
FT-Sn-BD FT-Sn-BD Sn-FT-BD FT-Sn-BD
I remember seeing Steve Smith do that lick holding his left hand up in the air. That was actually an indicator of me doing things backwards. I don't think I've done that lick as you've described ( knowingly anyway ) I'll practice that lick though. It seems it'll help with the RH lead.
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