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Old 06-19-2016, 05:05 AM
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Hey Gavin!

It's such a pleasure to be able to ask you some questions, I'm a huge fan, I admire a lot your work, your technique and the way you play your songs... it makes you one of the greatest drummers! ''19 days'' song is just incredible! The way you add drums in a simple song is amazing, congratulations.

First, I would like to ask you where your originality comes from I mean... to be so original as you are, you write your songs and try a lot of things wasting a lot of time on it or you just know what to insert there or what sounds better in that part of the song?


Second, and a little bit of the first question, when you are working on a new song you put everything you try on a paper or you just write the things you like more? Or you don't even use sheets?
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Old 06-20-2016, 12:54 PM
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Hi HenryColt

If you could play with different brands ( rather than Zildjian, Vic Firth and Sonor), what would they be?

I can't really answer that - there are lots of nice companies out there making great stuff - but I'm extremely pleased with the equipment that I have chosen. I'm only interested in playing what I consider to be the best available - and I think I have arrived at a sound that suits my artistic and practical needs.

Have you heard the new Red Hot Chili Peppers album ( The getaway)?

No I haven't.

Is there any music genre that you want to play but you can't because of lack or oportunities or time?

I think eventually I'd like to go back to playing more jazz music. It's kind of where I started and it's close to my heart.


Hi rafaelrafalex

First, I would like to ask you where your originality comes from I mean... to be so original as you are, you write your songs and try a lot of things wasting a lot of time on it or you just know what to insert there or what sounds better in that part of the song?

Life is full of choices - and the choices that you make are just a reflection of your personality. As you get older your personality evolves and you start to recognize things that resonate with you. So to be original you need to seek your inspiration from unexpected sources. I find a lot of inspiration for drumming outside of music. I look at design, I look at architecture and can recognise similarities to composing rhythms.
(In fact Johann Wolfgang von Goethe said "I call architecture frozen music").
So to answer the question - I might spend a lot of time looking for (what I consider to be) a great drum part. None of the time is wasted if I end up with something that I like. Sometimes it comes together in the first 5 seconds - other times I can't find anything that I really like. At that point probably I'm finding the music uninspiring - or I need to go away and come back to it another day.

Second, and a little bit of the first question, when you are working on a new song you put everything you try on a paper or you just write the things you like more? Or you don't even use sheets?

It depends how complicated the song is. If it has a complex structure - I will write a chart so I can navigate all the hurdles. As my ideas start to come - I just start recording them - and I might even transcribe some of the "accidents" that just happened when I was playing without really knowing what I was doing. It might be something as small as an open hi hat that I really like the placement of - and I want to remember to do that exact same thing in the next verse. The beauty is in the detail.

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Old 06-21-2016, 01:46 AM
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Hi Gavin, I recently saw a great video clip of you playing on a small kit with a jazz group in a bar room setting.

For myself, at a recent pub gig in a tiny room, I had to sacrifice much of my biggish kit, and ended up playing a 4-piece with hi-hat and a couple of cymbals. Ample enough, of course.

In the event, I quite enjoyed it - and it definitely got me thinking differently about the drums/music as the gig progressed.

(I will, though, be returning to my biggish kit next time,even though tear-down was much quicker!)

Just wondering what your thoughts are on large kit versus small kit? Cheers.
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Old 06-21-2016, 11:05 AM
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Thanks a lot for your answer. Yeah, that makes complete sense. It´s surely the case that a few things here and there I play are mechanically "too less practiced" to focus on the timing at the same time. So simplify these things is a very good idea and should help immediately. Thank you very much!

Let´s go on:
A few posts back there was a discussion about pre-amp choice and you posted a link of where they tested a few. Thank´s for that very interesting article. I kept on reading the forum there and they had a opinion test going on. So you have a lot of recording experience under the belt as well.
How would be your order of the following points when it comes to what is most important of getting a good recording? Points to consider (and you can of course add points) would be:
performer, instrument (new heads, in tune, etc?)/ where you place the mic / mic choice / the environment or room / mic pre choice

And maybe something up to date:
What do you do at the moment - I mean in between the touring legs of king crimson? how often do you go through the material? (like once a day, ...). Do you have some other (remote) sessions that you work on currently?
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Old 07-03-2016, 11:23 AM
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Hi Gavin. Thomas once again here. As Simon Phillips said: "The minute when the music stops being fun, you should stop. Because you need every ounce of fun in this bussiness."

Ahh...Someway along the way the music, playing drums and hanging out with musicians stopped being fun. Reason? I wish I know one. I think something is missing in my character. Yes...I have a ADS (anxiety-depression disorder). But me doctor says: "That's not the reason you are not enjoying your hobbies." So what is it?

Before, drums were so exciting and playing with anyone, ANYONE, was Christmas. Now...everything seems like it has no future. Every band with which I tried to coexist has some sort of problem. What sort of problems: lack of direction, lack of friendship, lack of simplicity, lack of positivity... Here was I trying the be positive, enthusiastic and friendly and none of it came back. NONE OF IT! NONE!

So here I am. Once again, alone with my thoughts. Is the problem in me? Am I the one who destroyed all those bands when i just said: 'Guys, I'm done. This is not working.'

As I look back I see 2 things. One, as a kid I was just enjoying to play music and there were no thoughts on is this band or music going to have any future. And two, after a turned 20 I started thinking:" What's the future of this? Are we gonna' get gigs? Let's try to make I bussiness out of it." And something obviously really wrong happend along the way...

Sorry for being so complicated and philosophical...but those are the best words I can put it...

Any thoughts, Gavin...
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Old 07-04-2016, 10:59 AM
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Hi supermac

I recently saw a great video clip of you playing on a small kit with a jazz group in a bar room setting. Just wondering what your thoughts are on large kit versus small kit?

I think I know the clip you're referring to. I was just sitting in - it wasn't my drumkit. It can be an interesting challenge to play on a much smaller kit - but it felt right at the time in that jazz setting. It almost never happens to me that I play such a small set - but I enjoyed it that night for those couple of tunes.

Hi Robert Schmidt

How would be your order of the following points when it comes to what is most important of getting a good recording? Points to consider (and you can of course add points) would be:performer, instrument (new heads, in tune, etc?)/ where you place the mic / mic choice / the environment or room / mic pre choice

Really the most important factor (by a very long way) is the performer. They can change the sound so much just by their touch. Then I would say the room is crucial for the sound of the drums. A good drumkit with good (well tuned) drum heads (and great cymbals) is next on the list. Then I would say the microphone and it's position would make a noticeable difference. I would put things like the digital convertor and mic pre way at the bottom of the list that would make a really noticeable affect.

What do you do at the moment - I mean in between the touring legs of king crimson? how often do you go through the material? (like once a day, ...). Do you have some other (remote) sessions that you work on currently?

At the moment I'm practising a lot. Mostly coordination and timing stuff. I don't go through King Crimson material every day. I'll work on it a few weeks in advance of the rehearsals. I make occasional remote sessions if I find things that I like and I feel I can make a good contribution to. I just recorded (a few weeks ago) a new album for a band called "The Pineapple Thief". They gave me complete creative freedom - and I really enjoyed doing it. I believe their album will be released in August.

Hi ThomasBaricevic

Ahh...Someway along the way the music, playing drums and hanging out with musicians stopped being fun. Reason? I wish I know one. I think something is missing in my character. Yes...I have a ADS (anxiety-depression disorder). But me doctor says: "That's not the reason you are not enjoying your hobbies." So what is it?

I don't fully understand the details of ADS - but sometimes I think it's good to take a rest from something. Especially if you're not enjoying it. There have been times where I haven't enjoyed aspects of the music business and I've taken a break when it stopped making sense to me.

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Old 07-05-2016, 09:47 AM
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Hi Gavin.

Thanks a lot for your answer! This is great. I can put this on my wall to remind me to work more on my drumming instead of thinking which expensive recording equipment I want to buy next...

Very interesting. May you share one or two of the 'secret Gavin Harrison timing and coordination exercises'?

Regarding the remote sessions: It sounds like you have access to sort of a big pool of possible tunes you can play on. Is that the case?

I checked out The Pineapple Thief's earlier work. Great stuff and I can definitely imagine your drumming in their music. I´m going to get it when it comes out!

Btw: You did an formidable job on this one!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhKqUHCXZUA

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Old 07-07-2016, 11:58 PM
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Hi Gavin,

I've read and seen some interviews that you do lots of transcribing. I've recently been trying to transcribe Freddie Freeloader from Kind of Blue by Miles Davis to hear how Jimmy Cobb phrases around the soloists and I'm having trouble hearing the snare drum part. There are some obvious snare drum hits but Jimmy Cobb also does a lot of ghosting/very soft comping on the snare which I can sort of tell is there, but can't quite confirm it. I've also tried using slow downer apps like Transcribe! and The Amazing Slow Downer and all they do is make the quality worse and the snare comping harder to hear. Is this due to the poor(er) quality of the recordings?

Do you have any guidelines when doing transcriptions like these because I would like to make my transcriptions as accurate as possible.

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Old 07-11-2016, 02:41 AM
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Hi Robert Schmidt

Very interesting. May you share one or two of the 'secret Gavin Harrison timing and coordination exercises'?

There's nothing secret about it. I just work on basic stuff and try to really play it as accurate as I can hear.

Regarding the remote sessions: It sounds like you have access to sort of a big pool of possible tunes you can play on. Is that the case?


No not really. Folks contact me and send me their demos. If I like the sound of them and I feel I can add something meaningful to their songs - we work out the logistics (budget and timeframe) and I do the session. A lot of the time they trust that I will do the right thing and give me very little direction. Other times they can be a lot more specific - and both ways are fine. If I'm inspired by the music - then it's quite easy - I'll do what I feel and send them that.

Btw: You did an formidable job on this one!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhKqUHCXZUA

thanks - that was a classic example of a 'remote session'.

Hi RinkyInky

I've read and seen some interviews that you do lots of transcribing. I've also tried using slow downer apps like Transcribe! and The Amazing Slow Downer and all they do is make the quality worse and the snare comping harder to hear. Is this due to the poor(er) quality of the recordings?


Actually I do very little transcribing. What I do the most is writing out ideas that I have improvised or figuring out exercises like complex polyrhythms. Terry Branam (who I believe contributes to the Drummerworld forum) is an excellent transcriber so you might have a better answer from him. When I've messed around with "Transcribe" I noticed the attack of the drums goes a bit fluffy around the edges and doesn't always help that much. I believe Terry Branam does all his transcribing in real time.

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Old 07-18-2016, 06:09 PM
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Hi Gavin,

Thanks for your answer. It´s alsways interesting to see how this business works!

In your recent video advertising the speedcobra (which I had the chance to check out last weekend and must say, that they feel very smooth but powerful at the same time. I felt that I could execute a double a little easier than on my current dw 5002...) there is something - that looks like a pot or anything - near the floortom. What is that and what is it good for?

A few teachers I took lessons with, f.e. Stefan Schütz - the owner of the drum department Stuttgart (who you probably know), says that a lot of pro players think their hits not on the downbeat but on the upbeat. They focus not on hitting the drum but when to lift the arm or leg up and then the beat falls sort of automatically by gravity into place. Do you heard about about it and do ou also do that or whats your opinion about that concept?

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Old 07-30-2016, 11:40 PM
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Hey Gavin, hope all is well!

I have got my kick sounding exactly like I want it to, but when I bring my floor tom into the setup, the reverberation from my floor tom alters the sound of my kick drum and to be frank, it sounds quite terrible. As a result, I have found myself playing a simple kick and snare setup more and more as of late. I have tried many different floor tom tunings, but I cannot revert the kick sound to its original state (besides removing the floor tom). The floor tom has a moon-gel on it and sounds satisfactory. Has this happened to you? What I should look for when tuning my floor tom to solve this problem? Although I do enjoy playing such a small setup, I would like to incorporate my floor tom into my playing again.

This leads me to my next question. I know of people who play on smaller kits to "restrict" and "force" themselves to be more creative. Do you think this philosophy is bogus? Do you sometimes play a small setup from time to time for fun?

Lastly, I know that you play other instruments besides drums. Have you ever thought of making an album by yourself? I think it could be a very interesting project! I've been listening to some more downtempo, acoustic music lately. I've been particularly attracted to Gustavo Santaolalla, a wonderful musician. His soundtracks are lovely.

Thanks for your time and all the great music!

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Old 08-01-2016, 05:20 AM
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Hi Gavin!!!

I noticed that your drum set sound changed on your last records.

I heard the Pineapple Thief song (in exile) and other recent video record on youtube (the Tama speedcobra), and for my ears the drums and cymbals sounds more "open" when I compared with your "old" records, like rhythmic illusions/perspective DVDs or even with 05Ric records. Is it correct? What changed? The microphones (now AKG), room, recording equipment setup...

Thank you for always inspire us.

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Old 08-01-2016, 04:00 PM
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Hi Robert Schmidt

In your recent video advertising the speedcobra there is something - that looks like a pot or anything - near the floortom. What is that and what is it good for?


It's just a little tin that's holding up a light to illuminate the bass drum head.

A few teachers I took lessons with, f.e. Stefan Schütz - the owner of the drum department Stuttgart (who you probably know), says that a lot of pro players think their hits not on the downbeat but on the upbeat. They focus not on hitting the drum but when to lift the arm or leg up and then the beat falls sort of automatically by gravity into place. Do you heard about about it and do ou also do that or whats your opinion about that concept?

I don't really recognise what you mean. Are you referring to the Moeller technique?

Hi Lightbulb_Sun

I have got my kick sounding exactly like I want it to, but when I bring my floor tom into the setup, the reverberation from my floor tom alters the sound of my kick drum and to be frank, it sounds quite terrible. As a result, I have found myself playing a simple kick and snare setup more and more as of late. I have tried many different floor tom tunings, but I cannot revert the kick sound to its original state (besides removing the floor tom). The floor tom has a moon-gel on it and sounds satisfactory. Has this happened to you? What I should look for when tuning my floor tom to solve this problem? Although I do enjoy playing such a small setup, I would like to incorporate my floor tom into my playing again.

Is it a 14" floor tom? Sometimes it works to drop a zero ring into the drum so it's resting on the resonant head inside - or sometimes a small amount of cotton wool.

This leads me to my next question. I know of people who play on smaller kits to "restrict" and "force" themselves to be more creative. Do you think this philosophy is bogus? Do you sometimes play a small setup from time to time for fun?

I almost never play a smaller kit (unless I'm "sitting in" on someone else's drums). In terms of restricting myself for creative purposes - I don't have a problem to not play all the parts of my drumset all the time. If I choose to just play the Bass Drum, Snare drum & Hi Hat - I can resist the temptation to play anything else.

Lastly, I know that you play other instruments besides drums. Have you ever thought of making an album by yourself?

No not really. I find interaction with other musicians the most stimulating. Playing all the instruments would feel like a conversation with myself.

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I noticed that your drum set sound changed on your last records.
I heard the Pineapple Thief song (in exile) and other recent video record on youtube (the Tama speedcobra), and for my ears the drums and cymbals sounds more "open" when I compared with your "old" records, like rhythmic illusions/perspective DVDs or even with 05Ric records. Is it correct? What changed? The microphones (now AKG), room, recording equipment setup...


Apart from the audio from the Rhythmic Illusion/Perspective books (which were recorded in a rehearsal room a very long time ago) all the others were recorded at my studio. Probably what you're referring to is the amount of big room mics that I'm using. I felt that the amount that I used on the Pineapple Thief record were appropriate for the music - same for the Tama demo. On the records with 05Ric - I didn't feel like that amount of big room sound would be good for the music and I went for a closer more intimate sound. The mics have changed over the years and doubtlessly had a small affect on the sound.

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Old 08-02-2016, 12:50 PM
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Hy Gavin,
first of all, thank you for your great support last year. You helped me a lot in configuring my new SQ2. Since one year I'm absolutely happy with the new drum.
I'm also one of the 200 happy drummers who own a Sonor 135 years anniversary 12-5 snare drum with your signature on it.
https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/a...1&d=1280034737
I was thinking about buying also your 12-5 protean snare. Are the two snares similar or is there a big difference? (Don't worry I also have the 14-5 protean!)
Thanks for the advice,
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Old 08-02-2016, 10:49 PM
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Thanks for the reply!

Is it a 14" floor tom? Sometimes it works to drop a zero ring into the drum so it's resting on the resonant head inside - or sometimes a small amount of cotton wool.

It's a 16", but the cotton balls did the trick! Thanks. :)

Quick question. In the live performance of "Dislocated Day" from Octane Twisted (https://youtu.be/Dl5rv8LzEUk?t=2m23s), I have no idea how you're playing both the rims and the hihat pattern at 2:23. What is the sticking? It's such an intricate song. I love how you took an already great drum beat and made it your own.

Also, I loved your Guitar Center duet with Simon Philips. Although labelled as one, it never felt like a "drum duel" to me, and I loved how both of you worked together instead of just showing off, like in most "drum duels". It was incredibly musical and inspiring. How often do you jam with drum friends like this? Is it helpful towards your playing?

By the way, due to the recent announcement of a new Dizrhythmia album, I just checked out the song "Standing In The Rain". Absolutely phenomenal, thanks so much for this great material. It's crazy that you were so young at this point. Great stuff. I'll definitely go and get the album while I wait for the new one. Will it be available on vinyl? :)

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Old 08-06-2016, 08:09 PM
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Hello Gavin! I was wondering if as a musician of your caliber, do you still get star struck by other musicians? Also do you remember the first cymbal you ever owned? Cheers!
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Old 08-07-2016, 03:51 PM
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Hi Gavin,

Thanks again for your answer!

No, I´m not referring to the Moeller technique. Let me try to give an example:

If you for instance play a 16th note groove (one handed and continuous 16th) or a half time shuffle groove (4/4, BD on 1 and 3, SN on 2 and 4) - when do you lift your left arm (or wrist) up to play the backbeat?

Especially on grooves like this I wonder if it´s better to come up on the "&" or the "a" before the backbeat to make it feel best. I always struggle with that.

Do you think about stuff like this or do you just do it naturally?

Another question is: When preparing for a gig or session, do you ever slow down songs for practicing purposes?
(I do but I feel that it´s harder to get the right feeling of the song when it comes to playing it in its original tempo again.)

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Hi Gavin:
Given the oportunity, would you work along with Zildjian to make your own cymbal set? Like Akira Jimbo with the hybrid or Steve Gad with the Session..
If that happened, how would they be, sound , look?
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Old 08-13-2016, 03:26 AM
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Hey Gavin,

Just wondering when is the next time you're touring through Southern California with a band. Any plans for N America anytime soon? Thanks.
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Old 08-13-2016, 07:58 AM
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Hy Gavin,
first of all a big thank you for your support last year. You helped me a lot in configuring my dream SQ 2. Since one year I'm very happy with my new drum!
I would again need your advice:
I'm one of the lucky guys who own the Sonor 12' 5' 135 years anniversary special edition with your signature.

https://www.pearldrummersforum.com/a...1&d=1280034737

I'm also interested in your 12' 5' Protean Snare. My question is: how big is the difference between these two snares?
(Don't worryI already own the 14' protean!)
Thank you for your time!
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:43 PM
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Hey Gavin,
You said to check out this forum for drum stuff related to you. Apologies if you have answered these questions, have looked and can't find.
1. Did you tune your kit to specific notes for the King Crimson shows, and if so were they tuned to the same notes as the other kits, or did you build a scale between the three kits?
2. I gather you tune reso head higher than batter, do you tune to an interval between top and bottom, to a precise difference?
3. The small drums you have to your left with Crimson, I gather are specially made for you by Sonor, are they 8" single headed? What depths are they, and are they tuned to intervals/notes?

Absolutely love the playing on KC live in Toronto, great interaction, was it all done to click live? Red with double bass drum beats sounds awesome. Great feel on Meltdown and the drum pieces sound amazing.
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:23 PM
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I meant to also ask
What mics did you use on your kit, on The KC tour last year, also will you be using the same this year? I am an engineer and drummer, so it us always interesting to compare sounds with different mics.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:01 PM
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Hi Florsky

I'm also one of the 200 happy drummers who own a Sonor 135 years anniversary 12-5 snare drum with your signature on it. I was thinking about buying also your 12-5 protean snare. Are the two snares similar or is there a big difference?

I think there's quite a noticeable difference between those two 12" snare drums. I really like playing both anyway. I would say that the Protean is more aggressive and has more 'drum sound' due to the fact it has only 8 snare wires.

Hi Lightbulb_Sun

Quick question. In the live performance of "Dislocated Day" from Octane Twisted (https://youtu.be/Dl5rv8LzEUk?t=2m23s), I have no idea how you're playing both the rims and the hihat pattern at 2:23. What is the sticking? It's such an intricate song. I love how you took an already great drum beat and made it your own.

As I haven't played that song - or even thought about in 6 years I can't remember exactly what I was doing - but I think it did involve playing open handed.

Also, I loved your Guitar Center duet with Simon Philips. Although labelled as one, it never felt like a "drum duel" to me, and I loved how both of you worked together instead of just showing off, like in most "drum duels". It was incredibly musical and inspiring. How often do you jam with drum friends like this? Is it helpful towards your playing?


Thanks - yes that came out really well - and musical too. Simon and I were on the same page about the approach to making that work as a duet - and not a competition.

By the way, due to the recent announcement of a new Dizrhythmia album, I just checked out the song "Standing In The Rain". Absolutely phenomenal, thanks so much for this great material. It's crazy that you were so young at this point. Great stuff. I'll definitely go and get the album while I wait for the new one. Will it be available on vinyl? :)

No plans to have it on vinyl at the moment.

Hi DunkirkDrums

I was wondering if as a musician of your caliber, do you still get star struck by other musicians? Also do you remember the first cymbal you ever owned?

Not really. I remember being very impressed when I met David Bowie, Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush as I'm such a fan. First cymbal I ever got was a 12" Zyn (and I've still got it somewhere in the garage).

Hi Robert Schmidt

If you for instance play a 16th note groove (one handed and continuous 16th) or a half time shuffle groove (4/4, BD on 1 and 3, SN on 2 and 4) - when do you lift your left arm (or wrist) up to play the backbeat? Do you think about stuff like this or do you just do it naturally?


I have never thought about it. So it just happens naturally to me. I know when I want to hit the snare drum and my arm just goes there automatically.

Another question is: When preparing for a gig or session, do you ever slow down songs for practicing purposes?


No I just work on them at their original tempo.

Hi Midnite Zephyr

Just wondering when is the next time you're touring through Southern California with a band. Any plans for N America anytime soon? Thanks.


No plans at the moment - but there could always be a possibility that King Crimson could come back to the States next year.

Hi Mathman

1. Did you tune your kit to specific notes for the King Crimson shows, and if so were they tuned to the same notes as the other kits, or did you build a scale between the three kits?

No I don't tune my drums to specific notes - but the intervals between the toms tend to be almost always the same. If you search back through this thread you'll find posts about that as well as an audio sample of my current tuning.

2. I gather you tune reso head higher than batter, do you tune to an interval between top and bottom, to a precise difference?

Yes the reso head is a bit tighter but it's not an exact interval - I tend to follow my instincts.

3. The small drums you have to your left with Crimson, I gather are specially made for you by Sonor, are they 8" single headed? What depths are they, and are they tuned to intervals/notes?


Those drums are 8" and they are all double headed. The depths of the four that I use on the King Crimson show are 9", 13", 17", 21"

What mics did you use on your kit, on The KC tour last year, also will you be using the same this year? I am an engineer and drummer, so it us always interesting to compare sounds with different mics.


We're in rehearsals right now and still experimenting with mics. At the moment I have the AKG D12VR in the bass drum. Shure SM57 on the snare top and bottom, Shure Beta 98AMP on the first three rack toms and Sennheiser 421's on the floor toms.

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Dayum, 1 week waiting fo your response and you forgot to answer me.
Well, here's another question. Do you use the "Fat snare trick" , (the one that you put a head over the head of the snare), in studio or live?
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Hi HenryColt

sorry I missed your question.

Given the oportunity, would you work along with Zildjian to make your own cymbal set? Like Akira Jimbo with the hybrid or Steve Gad with the Session..If that happened, how would they be, sound , look?

I'd be very happy to try to make a series of cymbals - but Zildjian have such an incredible diverse range of cymbals already available - I don't feel they have anything missing. Probably I'd work on some special effect cymbals - but I haven't given it that much thought.

Well, here's another question. Do you use the "Fat snare trick" , (the one that you put a head over the head of the snare), in studio or live?

I have tried that - but it seems to sound better acoustically than through the mic. When I recorded that method - it didn't come across very well.

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Hi Gavin,

Do you have phase issues with your overhead placement?
Standard ORTF placement usually have a distance about 17cm between each mics' capsules and yours seem to be a little more seperated.

Also, since a standard stereo bar is too short, what do you use to mount them instead of two seperate stands?

By the way, I really dig the last Pineapple Thief record. Nice big "roomy" drums!
Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions.

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Hi Gavin,

At 2:06 in Bonnie The Cat, there seems to be an effect that makes your drums sound tinny, mono, and "far away". I was just wondering what that effect is called. I also hear it on your drumming during the verse sections of Sentimental. When you know that audio tweak is going to be used, do u have to change how you play the part (i.e. louder, harder, softer?), or is simply a post-production effect added in at the last moment?

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Hi willregnier

Do you have phase issues with your overhead placement?
Also, since a standard stereo bar is too short, what do you use to mount them instead of two seperate stands?


I don't appear to have phase issues with them. I use the Sound Radix Auto-Align plugin anyway. I have the overhead mics coming off a drum stand and two mic stand boom arms.
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By the way, I really dig the last Pineapple Thief record. Nice big "roomy" drums!

Thanks - that's what happens when you stay in control of your own sound and mix !

Hi euphoric_anomaly

At 2:06 in Bonnie The Cat, there seems to be an effect that makes your drums sound tinny, mono, and "far away". I was just wondering what that effect is called.

I don't think it's called anything. We just EQ'd the hell out of it and put some distortion and compression on it too.

I also hear it on your drumming during the verse sections of Sentimental. When you know that audio tweak is going to be used, do u have to change how you play the part (i.e. louder, harder, softer?), or is simply a post-production effect added in at the last moment?

No it was a post-production thing. The drumming is actually a loop from my demo.

For the readers of this thread - I recommend that you check out The Pineapple Thief record "Your Wilderness"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LTh10MHMOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxYFXw5I45A

and the new Dizrhythmia record
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMC3DtyzJOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz2Jn7KIxN0

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Hi Gavin!

I got my CD of Dizrhythmia Too from Burningshed on Friday. Wonderful album, I've been enjoying it a lot. The album sampler you posted on Youtube was the first time I had heard about this collective. It has also made me curious about the first album that was released in 1988. Unfortunately, a physical copy of that one is hard to track down after 28 years. Are there any plans to "re-release" the first album at some point or make it available digitally?

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Hi Gavin,
Just a couple of questions, I see from your new piccy of your rig for KC8 that you are using CS heads on the 4 long toms to your left, did you experiment with different heads for these drums, if so what was your reason for them?
Have a great tour, waiting on the arrival of the box set from the last tour.
Also have you ever used the Beatnik timing analyser? If so do you think it was helpful?
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Hi Gavin,

I really enjoyed "Your Wilderness" by The Pineapple Thief, and especially your playing on the record. Thank you for introducing this band to me.

I noticed in a previous comment you said you used "big room mics" to get a more ambient sound; can you go into a little more detail about how you achieved that, and did you have to do very much to the tracks beyond that to get that resonant, roomy sound? Were you placing the mics in your adjacent large room for that natural reverb?

I was also interested in an interview where Bruce Soord said that you helped finish up the track "Tear You Up" when he hit a creative wall close to the deadline. I was curious if in your many projects that has happened before, and to hear your thoughts about stepping into a more involved role at that stage of the creative process.

Again, wonderful job; this album is destined for many repeat listenings.
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Hi Gavin,

I've noticed in your latest videos that you are using the Grombal (http://www.thegrombal.com/gb_use.htm) on your crashes.
What's your thought on them?
And what do you use under the grombal (felt,washers, etc.)?

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First,
like many others listening to Gavin Harrison (not only songs but also interviews) made me more passionate about music in general (for many reasons too long to write here, I wish to tell Gavin directly one day).

I really have two main questions:

1. What kinds of filler do you use in your bassdrum to keep the bassdrum head rigid. I think that using double pedal with one skin might cause choking at high speeds, isn't it?

2. I usually work on a lot of different things (so many to learn). During a week I might do exercise from stick control, alan dawson rudimental ritual, learn a song, or something else (currently I reading rhytmic illusions). As my schedule is pretty tight i don't have many time to study and neither a place of my own (every day is different), which strategy would be better? Would you suggest during a week to exercise mixing different stuff or to concentrate on one thing and then start another topic let s say after a week?
For example I have when things are good 2 hours each day. I would say 30 minutes for a particular topic would be nice, but I'd love to hear what you think about practice. I would also put apart time to work out new fills and stuff that I might use live.

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Hey Gavin!

I just wanted to let you know that the new Dizrhythmia record is just phenomenal! I absolutely adore "Heal Me, I'm a Trustee". The tom flurries that match up with the guitar remind me of the beginning of "Walking on the Cracks" from the first album. Again, the guitar is just wonderful and your playing is out of this world. Your drum sound is just perfect. I also particularly love "Lament For Bobby". Beautiful. Apparently, Mr Barbieri plays on the record.. do you recall what songs?

Jakko's voice sounds great, and I'm extremely excited to get my hands on the new King Crimson box set (still in the mail!)

Thanks again for making such beautiful music and taking the time to answer all of our questions, even after all these years! It doesn't go unappreciated. :)

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Hi Maurish

I got my CD of Dizrhythmia Too from Burningshed on Friday. It has also made me curious about the first album that was released in 1988. Unfortunately, a physical copy of that one is hard to track down after 28 years. Are there any plans to "re-release" the first album at some point or make it available digitally?

we are working on re-releasing the first record.

Hi Mathman

Just a couple of questions, I see from your new piccy of your rig for KC8 that you are using CS heads on the 4 long toms to your left, did you experiment with different heads for these drums, if so what was your reason for them?

I started with clear Remo Ambassador but I was denting them too quickly - so I switched to the black dot C.S

Also have you ever used the Beatnik timing analyser? If so do you think it was helpful?

Yes I have had one for many years and found it very interesting and helpful.

Hi alparrott

I noticed in a previous comment you said you used "big room mics" to get a more ambient sound; can you go into a little more detail about how you achieved that, and did you have to do very much to the tracks beyond that to get that resonant, roomy sound? Were you placing the mics in your adjacent large room for that natural reverb?

I have a pair of AKG 414XLS in my large room that are in front of the control room. I play in the control room and have the large doors open to the "big room". Depending on the pattern switch setting on the mics I can make the room sound larger or 'tighter'. I re-align the tracks to take out the large delay - because they are about 8 metres away from my drumset.

I was also interested in an interview where Bruce Soord said that you helped finish up the track "Tear You Up" when he hit a creative wall close to the deadline. I was curious if in your many projects that has happened before, and to hear your thoughts about stepping into a more involved role at that stage of the creative process.

I'm always interested in getting creatively involved in any musical situation if I think I can make a meaningful contribution. I suggested some arrangement changes in a few places in "Tear You Up" as well as some others.

Hi willregnier

I've noticed in your latest videos that you are using the Grombal (http://www.thegrombal.com/gb_use.htm) on your crashes. What's your thought on them? And what do you use under the grombal (felt,washers, etc.)?

I was trying them - and I really like them in the studio as I can 'hot swap' my crashes quickly when I'm searching for the right cymbal sounds for a certain song. They also let the cymbal swing freely which helps save them getting cracked. The only thing that I imagine would be difficult on tour is that they won't stack easily in your cymbal case. Once you install them on a cymbal it's not easy to take them on and off. I don't use anything underneath them. They are resting on top of the plastic centre sleeve.

Hi marco_cs

1. What kinds of filler do you use in your bassdrum to keep the bassdrum head rigid. I think that using double pedal with one skin might cause choking at high speeds, isn't it?

I use a pillow made from heavy goose feather. In fact it was the heaviest one I could find. It doesn't keep the drum head rigid - but it helps to stop it moving too much for my way of playing the bass drum. "Choking at high speed?" I don't think I've been that fast !

2. I usually work on a lot of different things (so many to learn). During a week I might do exercise from stick control, alan dawson rudimental ritual, learn a song, or something else (currently I reading rhytmic illusions). As my schedule is pretty tight i don't have many time to study and neither a place of my own (every day is different), which strategy would be better? Would you suggest during a week to exercise mixing different stuff or to concentrate on one thing and then start another topic let s say after a week? For example I have when things are good 2 hours each day. I would say 30 minutes for a particular topic would be nice, but I'd love to hear what you think about practice. I would also put apart time to work out new fills and stuff that I might use live.

I don't really have such limitations on practise periods - but I just work on whatever is interesting me at the time. I usually do several short bursts during the day about 20-30 minutes at a time.

Hi Lightbulb_Sun

I just wanted to let you know that the new Dizrhythmia record is just phenomenal! I absolutely adore "Heal Me, I'm a Trustee". The tom flurries that match up with the guitar remind me of the beginning of "Walking on the Cracks" from the first album. Again, the guitar is just wonderful and your playing is out of this world. Your drum sound is just perfect. I also particularly love "Lament For Bobby". Beautiful. Apparently, Mr Barbieri plays on the record.. do you recall what songs?


Thanks - glad you like it. Richard plays on "Chinese Doll", "Little Town", and "How Did I Let You Get So Old".

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Hi Gavin,

I saw you play with King Crimson recently. I don´t need to say that it was an amazing show.

I suppose that the pieces weren´t played to a click. Am I right? The Tempo of each piece was very good though. I could observe you counting the other guys in a few times. Was it all by feeling or do you had a reference like a few metronome clicks to do that?

In this live footage of "Easy Money" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOdk015mLEo) you do something with your sticks in the first break - looks like you wax the sticks. Is that correct?

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Hi Gavin,

I've noticed on a recent Facebook post that you have a really small porthole at the bottom of the bass drum resonant head to be able to pass the xld cable. Could you tell us where to ind something like that? Which brand?
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Hey Gavin,

I've noticed that on Radical Action your kick mic is pointed at the side of the bass drum. What are the benefits of doing this?

I'm a bit ashamed to say that this box set is pretty much my first venture into King Crimson but needless to say, I'm blown away. Is your solo on 21st Century Schizoid Man completely different every night or do you follow set guidelines?

Thanks again! Have a great time on this tour! I hope it didn't take too long for you and Jakko to mix all of the drum tracks! :)

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Hi Robert Schmidt

I saw you play with King Crimson recently. I don´t need to say that it was an amazing show. I suppose that the pieces weren´t played to a click. Am I right? The Tempo of each piece was very good though. I could observe you counting the other guys in a few times. Was it all by feeling or do you had a reference like a few metronome clicks to do that?

There are a couple of moments where we use a click - and sometimes for a tempo change too.

In this live footage of "Easy Money" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOdk015mLEo) you do something with your sticks in the first break - looks like you wax the sticks. Is that correct?

Yes I was trying out "Stick Wax"

Hi willregnier

I've noticed on a recent Facebook post that you have a really small porthole at the bottom of the bass drum resonant head to be able to pass the xld cable. Could you tell us where to ind something like that? Which brand?
Thank you very much!


Very observant of you. KickPort FX-1RT. It makes a very nice job of allowing the XLR cable through the drum head.

Hi Lightbulb_Sun

I've noticed that on Radical Action your kick mic is pointed at the side of the bass drum. What are the benefits of doing this?

I think you must be mistaken because I only use an internal mic. Which photo are you referring to?

I'm a bit ashamed to say that this box set is pretty much my first venture into King Crimson but needless to say, I'm blown away. Is your solo on 21st Century Schizoid Man completely different every night or do you follow set guidelines?

I play a different solo every night. It's my own personal challenge. I could play the same solo if I wanted to - but this way is more fun and some surprises might happen.

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