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Old 03-22-2009, 09:48 AM
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Whats your definition for the word "chops?"
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:04 AM
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display of technical skills, a drummer's style of play by which he /she is identified, something played really well on an instrument...
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:46 AM
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A chop of meat is a cut of meat cut perpendicularly to the spine, and usually containing a rib or part of a vertebra and served as an individual portion
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:53 AM
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Haha, what we talking here? Pork, lamb?

I always had in mind it was fast, controlled playing. I could probably play a good groove but I wouldn't say I had good 'chops'.
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Old 03-22-2009, 12:08 PM
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I tend to associate chops with technical ability or your "bag of tricks". All the things a drummer should have at his disposal, like the 13-40 rudiments, right-left-bass triplets, right-left-bass-bass quads, alternating hi-hat barks, two-handed crossover and so on. Pretty much all of the things that will get you hollered at by the bandleader later on.
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Chops are the set of skills in the technical area aside from the groove. It is the application of rudiments, or stick skills within the music they may set them apart from other drummers.
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Old 03-22-2009, 03:52 PM
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Well...


I believe it's a combination of how aydee and Gruntersdad defined it above. Though, I can surely appreciate the other "meat" related definitions as well. ;-)


Oh, and cudos to Mikecore also. That'll work, too!
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
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I tend to associate chops with technical ability or your "bag of tricks". All the things a drummer should have at his disposal, like the 13-40 rudiments, right-left-bass triplets, right-left-bass-bass quads, alternating hi-hat barks, two-handed crossover and so on. Pretty much all of the things that will get you hollered at by the bandleader later on.
I like this one i just want to add that the drummer can play them without getting as tired as other players.
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:06 PM
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Just for interest's sake, the term "chops" comes from the phrase "woodshedding" or "going out to the woodshed" in order to practice. This is also why you'll hear jazz musicians talk of their "axe".
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:33 PM
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Just for interest's sake, the term "chops" comes from the phrase "woodshedding" or "going out to the woodshed" in order to practice. This is also why you'll hear jazz musicians talk of their "axe".
Really? Hmmmm....

When I think of the term "chops", I like the term Neil Peart Uses. He talks about "His Toolbox". I can relate to this being a mechanically inclined person. Each pattern, rudiment, style, execution, are all tools (chops) in my toolbox of drumming information. When I have a certain job to do on the drums I select the best tools I have that fit from my toolbox. This analogy hit home with me. It's just another way of saying chops. Maybe not quite as "cool", but it works.
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:39 PM
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I'm amazed a link to youtube to demonstrate the definition of 'chops' hasn't been posted yet !
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Old 03-22-2009, 05:16 PM
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I'm amazed a link to youtube to demonstrate the definition of 'chops' hasn't been posted yet !
Alrighty then.

CHOPS.

NOT CHOPS.
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Old 03-22-2009, 05:31 PM
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Chops to me means musical endurance which is closely related to technique, and I tend to agree with Derek Roddy's definition of technique, something along the lines of
"being able to recognize where the problems are (in your playing) and fixing them"...which goes back to understanding the fundamental knowledge of drumming in general.

I also think chops refers to how good you are at covering up your mistakes, and that is why I think this video demonstrates chops, in a rather antithetic musical direction than gospel...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmgML...e=channel_page
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:53 AM
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Because people thought they were fills, guess they were WRONG!!
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:58 PM
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I love it! Its funny that most of the guys who are worshipped on this site also have loads of chops. I look at chops this way. Music to me is a conversation between the guys in the band and the people in the audience. Chops are the vocabulary that drummers use to participate in the conversation. Really tasteful drummers view it as a conversation and not a monologue.
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So cleaver... You know, I can never come up with those kinds of things. That's gold.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:55 PM
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I think of chops as being technical ability. To me, chops don't have anything to do with taste, groove, or listening. I've always thought of them as being the different things you can play and how fast you can play them.
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:03 AM
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Lol, I see everyone is worshiping Bermuda's post.
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:11 AM
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Here is an honest question for you ... if you were at a jam and there were 2 drumsets and one of them was open, would you get up there if either Eric Moore or Jonathan Davis was up there doing his thing?
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