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Old 02-10-2006, 05:20 PM
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the drummer from Dragon Force is insane when it comes to playing db
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Old 02-10-2006, 05:52 PM
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Tim "Silver Feet" Waterson has the fastest feet
1,030 - Singles in 60 sec
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Old 02-13-2006, 01:54 AM
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Tommy Aldridge is awesome
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:12 PM
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i think if your talking WFD then tim holds these records both singles and doubles, however from a musical point of view i think what derek roddy said on his forum is true that playing these beats in isolation for a certain amount of time (60 seconds) bares no resemblence to doing it in a musical situation,, and from a musical point of view the only people he has seen doing 255+bpm are george kollias and tony laureno. For sheer speed Annhilation of the Wicked by Nile has to be heard to be believed.
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:18 AM
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Mayhem's first minute of their song DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL from CHIMERA ALBUM (by HELLHAMMER) and Morbid Angel's GATES TO ANNIHILATION Album (by PETE SANDOVAL) can give you a nice/accurate example of ULTRA fast double bass work. Believe me... as fast as Waterson or FASTER (just not officialy...). I wouldn't recommend these specific tracks if I didn't know this music... some Black and MANY Death metal bands are, obviously, quite known for their fast double-bass players. Hellhammer and Pete Sandoval stay from equal to above ALL of them (all the main guys I've ever heard inside the xtreme metal domain). For the believers: enjoy ;)
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Old 02-18-2006, 03:59 AM
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Yes, tim waterson won the fastest feet record but, if you watch the video he is leaning over the bass drum. i dont think he can play that fast with the hands
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Old 02-18-2006, 04:33 AM
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Jordan Mancino, As I Lay dying, 94 hours, off of Frail Words Collapse.. pretty fast
I'd like to ask what part of the song you think was fast?
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I believe Tim Yeung now holds the record for the most single bassdrum strokes in one minute at 872!

I think the fastest musically would have to be some of these dudes...

George Kollias, Derek Roddy, Gene Hoglan, Tony Laureano, Flo Mournier, Hellhammer, Pete Hammoura, Tim Yeung, Dave Haley, Dave Culross, Mark Simpson, Alex Marquez, James King, John J. Longstreth, Martin Maurais, Pete Sandoval, Frost, Horgh, Richard Christy, Sean Reinert.
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Old 02-18-2006, 05:45 AM
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Yes, tim waterson won the fastest feet record but, if you watch the video he is leaning over the bass drum. i dont think he can play that fast with the hands
Yes but Tim Waterson was getting tired maybe he's getting OLD too LOL
No my feeet are faster but my hands are getting there.
I Have still run over 1000 with my hands in singles not bad for an OLD tired guy LOL
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Old 02-19-2006, 02:15 AM
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Alright. END OF THREAD!

The thread really only needed to be 1 post long, because there is a correct answer and only 1 correct answer. Speed is something that can be measured. Nobody has ever been recorded playing faster than Tim.
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Old 02-19-2006, 10:45 AM
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Fastest "Double Bass"?

Charles Mingus?

Stanley Clark?

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Yeah! Hellhammer (real name Jan Axel Von Bloomberg) is the fastest metal drummer alive today, no one is like him, trust me... I am a professional drummer, and i know what i say, Hellhammer is unique, because first, he's a jazz-drummer... Who agrees with me?
I definately agree. Von Bloomberg studied jazz to get his double bassing and hand speed up to par, and from there, he practiced really hard until he reached over 200 bpm. Next to Tim Waterson and George Kollias, I think he has the fastest feet.

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Old 02-19-2006, 11:23 PM
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Alright. END OF THREAD!

The thread really only needed to be 1 post long, because there is a correct answer and only 1 correct answer. Speed is something that can be measured. Nobody has ever been recorded playing faster than Tim.
I agree. This is like saying who has the fastest hands in the world. There is only one real test we can go on, and that is the WFD competition. Tim Waterson has the fastest feet, end of story.
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Old 02-20-2006, 05:25 AM
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Yeah! Hellhammer(real name Jan Axel Von Bloomberg) are the fastest metal drummer alive today, no one is like him, trust me... I am a professional drummer, and i know what i say, Hellhammer are unique, because first, he's a jazz-drummer... Who agree whit me?
Maybe a little too obvious (specially for real Mayhem fans - me included). His drumming on De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas is creepy... he adds a sublevel (a whole LEVEL, actually) to the already added guitar riffs and the result is oddly phenomenal: one of the best metal drumming performances to ever be recorded on tape (ok, in studio...;). The drums almost speak dark words to the listener.. it's almost like if he (HH)'s playing in a cave (or something similar). The guy's great, a true legend in Norway (for both talent-wise and "cryptic" reasons).He plays on a great Pearl white kit (nowadays, at least) and has great speed mastery and technical proficiency (he's too good for a metal drummer, sometimes...). I'd put him next to Sandoval, Kollias, Roddy and Waterson, as far as double bass velocity goes.
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Old 02-21-2006, 03:43 AM
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Alright. Now George Kollias is the fastest I've heard and yes i herd tim waterson, he's fast, but not as fast as george IMO. Jason Bittner is coming out with some new stuff and its said to be his fast double kick by far so watch out for that. I think that by the end of the summer I could beat that record for one foot and 2 ft with one foot.
As mentioned before listen to that Annihilation of the Wicked by Nile becuasse that is pretty insane.Dennis chambers is the best one footed player I've seen. I haven't seen him try to play fast with his double bass but his one foot is insane. Gene Hoglan is in the running but not there IMO. There are prolly some drummers out there that might possibly faster than george or tim but there is noway of knowing until we hear it.
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Old 02-23-2006, 07:18 AM
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Alright. Now George Kollias is the fastest I've heard and yes i herd tim waterson, he's fast, but not as fast as george IMO. Jason Bittner is coming out with some new stuff and its said to be his fast double kick by far so watch out for that. I think that by the end of the summer I could beat that record for one foot and 2 ft with one foot.
As mentioned before listen to that Annihilation of the Wicked by Nile becuasse that is pretty insane.Dennis chambers is the best one footed player I've seen. I haven't seen him try to play fast with his double bass but his one foot is insane. Gene Hoglan is in the running but not there IMO. There are prolly some drummers out there that might possibly faster than george or tim but there is noway of knowing until we hear it.
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GEORGE is GREAT also SUPER fast and a VERY cool drummer!
I can play at 260bpm so can George, he also has a drum tech that can play at 260 .
Orifist can play at 260 Derek and Tony can probably reach that as well
The 270 is super hard to hold arrrggghhhh.
I give George extra credit as he plays at those tempos everynight and makes it look almost effortless.
NO don't RULE out Mean GENE HOGLAN he is an amazing drummer also and one of my favorites!
I love Dennis but, JO JO MAYER is the best single footed player I have ever seen........
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Old 02-23-2006, 03:23 PM
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George Kollias, Tim Waterson, Joey Jordison, And the Rev. For single foot, I think JoJo Mayer is the fastest I've seen.
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Old 02-24-2006, 05:47 AM
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in 'straight double bass' technique:

Raymond Herrera
Joey Jordison
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in 'heel-toe' method
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Old 02-24-2006, 06:44 AM
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in 'straight double bass' technique:

Raymond Herrera
Joey Jordison
Virgil Donati

in 'heel-toe' method
Virgil Donati
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Sorry to correct you BUT Vigil and Thomas DO NOT use heel toe.
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Old 02-24-2006, 07:20 AM
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Is it possible to do moeller technique with the feet?
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Old 02-24-2006, 07:35 PM
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Is it possible to do moeller technique with the feet?
Years ago I was told The motion I was doing but a group of drum instructors in Vancouver.
You simply whip your ankles to the side and control how many hits you want.
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Old 02-25-2006, 11:33 PM
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GEORGE is GREAT also SUPER fast and a VERY cool drummer!
I can play at 260bpm so can George, he also has a drum tech that can play at 260 .
Orifist can play at 260 Derek and Tony can probably reach that as well
The 270 is super hard to hold arrrggghhhh.
I give George extra credit as he plays at those tempos everynight and makes it look almost effortless.
NO don't RULE out Mean GENE HOGLAN he is an amazing drummer also and one of my favorites!
I love Dennis but, JO JO MAYER is the best single footed player I have ever seen........
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I agree with tim about this except for the JO JO Mayer is Faster one footed player than Dennis because Jo Jo uses a heel toe method along with sliding his feet with is like cheating IMO, unlike dennis and i think that dennis does play it faster watch his salute to buddy rich video fron the 90's and his clinic solo from In the Pocket.
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I agree with tim about this except for the JO JO Mayer is Faster one footed player than Dennis because Jo Jo uses a heel toe method along with sliding his feet with is like cheating IMO, unlike dennis and i think that dennis does play it faster watch his salute to buddy rich video fron the 90's and his clinic solo from In the Pocket.
Mate... nothing is "Cheating" if it gets you more notes out of one foot. That's just like saying that it's cheating to use your fingers to get a faster single-stroke roll, or that it's cheating to play from the wrist instead of the shoulder.
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Old 02-26-2006, 01:53 AM
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haha, Finns, is the dualist cheating? (gets you more hits out of one foot...)

Yes, I know Dogbreath, I should have gone to 'the dualist debate' forum to ask that question...
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:06 AM
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I agree with tim about this except for the JO JO Mayer is Faster one footed player than Dennis because Jo Jo uses a heel toe method along with sliding his feet with is like cheating IMO, unlike dennis and i think that dennis does play it faster watch his salute to buddy rich video fron the 90's and his clinic solo from In the Pocket.
I live Dennis and Have Seen him MANY times watch whe\at dennis does up close as I have and you'll see....
I have seen JO JO up close as he demonstrated it for me when we were trading technique tips doing the Single foot swivel (you'll see George and other death guys do this)
JO JO was doing this faster than his heel toe stuff just for FUN.
There is probably someone else doing it faster on the other side of the world.....
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Old 02-26-2006, 12:37 PM
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Didn't Tim Yeung win this years WFD comp in fastest single strokes?
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Didn't Tim Yeung win this years WFD comp in fastest single strokes?
Yes
Tim won this year at NAMM he blistered 872 powerful strokes to win this years competition..
NOW before ALL the other drummers come out and say What? I can do blah blah blah faster that that.........
TIM's feet were solid and powerfull and he was not squeezing the hip flexor to create a shiver..
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Tim won this year at NAMM he blistered 872 powerful strokes to win this years competition..
NOW before ALL the other drummers come out and say What? I can do blah blah blah faster that that.........
TIM's feet were solid and powerfull and he was not squeezing the hip flexor to create a shiver..
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Yea I watched his vid on his website man he was tight as! it wasn't just hit the pedals as fast as you can it was actually in time!
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:47 PM
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Daniel Adair man! Awesome double bass work.
Too many Great drummers to keep up with LOL
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i hate this drummer but i think faster db bass player is joey jordison look to war up video of im in drummerworl
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i hate this drummer but i think faster db bass player is joey jordison look to war up video of im in drummerworl
Man read the thread from the start there are plenty of drummers who have faster bass drum technique that bloody JJ!
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Hi Tim, it's Tommy. I hate to tell you and I have seen thousands of WFD releated threads especially fastest feet and the absolutely worst 'bubble burster' is to see the name TIM WATERSON. haha!

Dude, we know each other, but come on, you have held the two top WFD World Records for like 5 years in a row. right? Insane!

There's tons of metal threads and I have even edited clips for some of these sites and they have been betting on all these metal guys for years that were going to knock you off. Where are they? First before you answer let me say 1030 single strokes in 60 seconds is not a monkey in training. Try 1/16ths at 200 and I think you are at 800 which is pretty close to 'DogBoots' by Virgil. right?

Are you going out to do the WFD at NAMM, if so what can we expect? I know you are not eligible to compete for the $12,000 in prizes, but also what hot young gun with the feet can we expect to come out of this WFD?

How about Thomas Lang? What's up with that?

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Hey Tommy
Thomas is checking out the drumometer and he will let us know how he plans to use it.
After recieving criticism about my world records being sloppy...........
This year at NAMM I really tried to focus on playing accuately with the metrenome my best run was 956 with the click at 240 should have read 960 I can hardly ever get it right on.LOL
I also used the same pedals as everyone else ,
not MY SUPER DUPER TURBO CHARGED MIDGET POWERED NITRO AXIS special edition PEDALS................
As for having the record for 5 years well luck is on my side as a matter of fact.
I spoke to drummer the other day who swears at least 14 drummers will wipe my doubles record off the map so we will have to wait and see.....
As for the 1030 I have broken that unofficially at home and I hear others are doing the same thing....I want to have a CLEAN run over 1050 I will keep you posted.....
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The late Eric Carr of KISS. Listen to any of his live stuff, or Carr Jam from the Revenge album.
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Years ago I was told The motion I was doing but a group of drum instructors in Vancouver.
You simply whip your ankles to the side and control how many hits you want.
Hope this helps and PS This will all be on my NEW DVD.
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JoJo Mayer uses this in the video I saw (on this site), and he goes amazingly fast.

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jesus, you guys no nothing

tim waterson has the fastest feet, he still holds a record of 1,030 singles and 1,407 doubles.
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If you had to pick one drummer, who would you say the fastest double bass player is? On which song? cd?

I think we are all off point here? I think the question was in a song not sitting at the WFD.
Tim you got the fastest feet theres no fighting that. But in a song I have to say it's Derek Roddy.(Nile) as speed goes. Nile now has Pete Hammoura as there drummer who is also fast. If you want to talk about speed and skill I would say that's Adler. His beats are hard to play.

This is all just my opinion. I'm sure there are bands and drummers out there that are fast. Well I know there are. There just not out there yet. Like the drummer for If hope dies.
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I think we are all off point here? I think the question was in a song not sitting at the WFD.
Tim you got the fastest feet theres no fighting that. But in a song I have to say it's Derek Roddy.(Nile) as speed goes. Nile now has Pete Hammoura as there drummer who is also fast. If you want to talk about speed and skill I would say that's Adler. His beats are hard to play.

This is all just my opinion. I'm sure there are bands and drummers out there that are fast. Well I know there are. There just not out there yet. Like the drummer for If hope dies.
Derek only played on SOME of 'Black Seeds Of Vengeance' by Nile, and their current drummer is actually George Kollias whom I would say is the fastest drummer in a song to my knowledge, correct me if I am wrong on the song bit :)
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Derek only played on SOME of 'Black Seeds Of Vengeance' by Nile, and their current drummer is actually George Kollias whom I would say is the fastest drummer in a song to my knowledge, correct me if I am wrong on the song bit :)

Yes George Kollias was on the last one Annihilation Of The Wicked. Derek did play on Black seeds of vengeance. The first drummer for nile was Pete Hammoura. I got them mixed up there sorry.LOL I wish they would just keep one. LOL


Derek has played with Hate Eternal ,Council Of The Fallen ,Aurora Borealis ,Nile ,
Imperial Crystalline Entombment and Dead Syndicate .




check out the video of Derek( Behold Judas Studio Video ) it's under media.. thats fast!!

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