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Old 08-09-2016, 08:45 PM
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Default Those who keep multiple kits set up

Do you have them set up all the same way?

I do, boring as that sounds. 2 up 1 down. (except my walnut kit, that has an extra floor) I don't know what my problem is. I have 3 identically set up kits. (2 Gurus in my studio, and my PDP gig set) Not the same cymbals, but essentially the same amount of cymbals, in essentially the same sizes and positions. My matching sets (the ones I either practice or gig on) all have 2 cowbells, a tambourine and a splash.

There is an exception, my Sonor Players kit. I keep it set up for my 11 YO stepson. (I play it once in a while too) So I have 3 kits set up in my studio, 2 Gurus and the Sonor. I gig the Sonor when my PDP gig kit is too much. The Sonor kit sports less cymbals, less toms, no splash, no tambourine and no bells. I can fit it...and me...in a 4 foot by 4 foot space.

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Old 08-09-2016, 09:08 PM
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I only have one, but if I can I set up one left handed at work and use that when I teach.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:06 PM
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Mostly same way, but I've gone through all the phases:
set both kits all up, with all cymbals/stands I have
then 'normal' phases with one 4 piece, and 2 cymbals
occasionally a 'minimalist' phase of snare bass hats ride (lasts about a week).
I never mount 2 hanging toms, ever.
Oh...And when I'm really feeling daring will use 2 floor toms.
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Old 08-09-2016, 10:28 PM
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I have 3 kits set-up, but not all in the same place.

I keep my 5-piece Tama kit set-up in my friends warehouse. I hardly ever get to see that kit anymore because we hardly jam there anymore. But it's safe and out of the way.

I have a 4 piece Franken-Pearl (they all have Pearl-style coffin lugs, brands are varied). I keep it set up in Bob's Garage for when I go there to practice once a week. We lost the former drum set that used to be at the Garage to its owner who finally came back to retrieve it. So I moved mine in.

With two drum kits set up elsewhere besides my house, I needed a new gig kit. So I bought a new Ludwig Element Birch 4 piece kit. I keep it set-up at home in the garage and I use it for gigs too.

So basically, I use every piece of gear that I own. All of my set-ups use two crashes, a ride & hats. I have an extra Ozone and a splash with the Tama kit, and my gig kit (Ludwig) has an extra Ozone splash.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:02 PM
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I have 3 identically set up kits. (2 Gurus in my studio, and my PDP gig set)
Those Guru's must be so sad every time they see your PDP going out to have fun. Cruel I tells ya - cruuuel!!!


I have multiple demo kits set up, but I'm guessing that doesn't count. They're all very different kits, so not the same setup by definition.

I do have two "go to" setups - a 6 piece & a 4 piece. They're always the same configuration, including cymbal layouts. 4 piece has two more cymbals than the 6 piece - go figure! Then there's always the wind chime options ;)
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:11 PM
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My three drumsets are setup almost identically. I have found a setup that works for me. No need to change it. I tried different setups for quite a while and eventually settled on my 1 up 1 down setups. I feel comfy behind that set. Feeling comfy while playing is a good basis for playing good, with positive confidence and playing tight IMO..
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Old 08-10-2016, 12:24 AM
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Man....I need more space. I barely have room for one!
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Old 08-10-2016, 12:26 AM
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Those Guru's must be so sad every time they see your PDP going out to have fun. Cruel I tells ya - cruuuel!!!
Make a Tour set with a tom tree and I'd gig Guru. The tom tree is a gig necessity for me. Plus I don't want to store my Guru kit in my truck uncased. That's where the gig kit lives. It makes my life exponentially easier that way.

Tom tree. Please? I'm guessing you wouldn't even consider it. I may drill Yolanda. After all her bass drum is 8 mm right? And judging from the force it took to crack that shell....from the inside where it's weaker...I don't think mounted toms would even come close to that level of stress on the bass drum. Especially force from the outside of the shell. It's an arch, is it not? Arches are strong, everyone knows that. I betcha I could stand on that bass drum and nothing would happen.

My Pearl had a 7.5 mm bass drum, and Pearl toms are much heavier. Granted Pearls are plywood. Segmented construction is friggin strong like brickwork though. Stave I'm not too sure about, I wouldn't chance it. But segmented? Fuggetaboutit.

A DW style tom mount, or one where a tube does not penetrate the shell is what I'd use. The DW mount is unnecessarily heavy though. I have some tom tree homework to do.

It's the only thing that kit is lacking to make it a giggable kit for me. Love the wingnut operated floor tom and bass drum legs,and the "normal" bass drum hoop, all necessities. I just might do it, unless you convince me otherwise. Instead of cases, I'd use those drum rolls, because they fold up flat.

Nothing would please me more than to be able to gig Yolanda with no extra effort than it takes to set up my PDPs.
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Old 08-10-2016, 01:57 AM
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Hey UL, I keep both my Sonor kits set up the same even the cymbal placement. Tuning is different on each.
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:07 AM
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I have a modern 6 piece on a rack, and a vintage 4 piece on stands that I keep setup except when one is gigged. And the gigged kit get reset within 48 hours of its return. I keep all snare, toms, hats, and throne heights identical, but the number of toms, cymbals, and the placement of the cymbals vary between the two.

I learned playing a 6 piece, so i find it neccessary to practice on the 4 piece often to simplify things and broaden my skills on fewer drums. Plus I only gig the 52 year old collector grade kit on very special occasions.
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:23 AM
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I have two kits setup. Until a few months ago both were identical , small variance on how many cymbals are on each one. Now I have one setup 3 up 1 down and the other is 2 up 2 down.
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:26 AM
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I have three kits; a home kit, a kit in the band rehearsal/recording space, and one stacked up ready to load out for gigs.

Home and rehearsal kit are essentially the same drum and cymbal sizes set up in the same way, though the rehearsal kit is two up one down, while the home kit and gig kits are two up two down.

I'm torn between adding a second floor to the rehearsal kit or admitting I really don't hit the second floor on my home kit all that often...
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Old 08-10-2016, 04:26 AM
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Usually have three kits up.
Right now I have Ludwig and DW 2 up 2 down sets and my Legacy four piece. Different cymbal sets for each kit.
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Old 08-10-2016, 05:28 AM
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I have enough space for two, but one is set-up as a 4-piece, while the other is a giant 9-piece. If I get rid of my electric piano I'll have room for more, but right now I keep a kit in the garage stacked up and ready to be thrown into a car if I have a gig or something with it's own hardware.
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Old 08-10-2016, 07:47 AM
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I have several kits set up, my purpose is both different sounds and configurations.

6 piece Gretsch Purewood Oak with clear heads and a ported bass drum. Zildjian K cymbals.


6 piece Gretsch Purewood Hickory with white heads and unported bass drum. Meinl Byzance Benny Greb cymbals.

5 piece Whitney with Zildjian Kerope cymbals set up for right handed guest drummers.

5 piece Sleishman with Paiste 2002 cymbals.

5 piece PDP in Bonham configuration with Paiste Giant Beat cymbals.

4 piece Premier with Paiste/Zildjian/Bettis cymbals.

I literally walk from kit to kit when I practice to challenge myself with different setups.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:03 AM
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Tom tree. Please? I'm guessing you wouldn't even consider it. I may drill Yolanda. After all her bass drum is 8 mm right?
My Pearl had a 7.5 mm bass drum, and Pearl toms are much heavier. Granted Pearls are plywood. Segmented construction is friggin strong like brickwork though.
You may well be right Larry. Honestly, we've never put it to the test (that would be one expensive test). Segmented is strong. Still not as strong as a multiple ply equivalent, but not too far off. I still can't recommend it on a structural level though, because I have no evidence to base that advice on.

One thing I am completely sure of though, is the sonic affect of such a mounting. That shell is way more resonant than a ply equivalent, & that contributes to it's rich sound. You wouldn't notice any difference on most ply shells, even with a fully open bass drum, but you will on this drum. Mount + tom mass will reduce that resonant profile. In a gig situation, that's maybe something you can live with, or even something you won't notice. Try placing an equivalent weight on a cushion, then rest it on the bass drum & see if you can appreciate the difference.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:16 AM
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I don't have two kits any more, but when I did they usually had different setups. No particular reason for it other than the fact that they were different kits with different sizes, so I set each one up the way I felt best suited it.

One was generally set up as a 1-up, 2-down setup (24, 12, 16, 18), while the other was 2-up, 1-down (22, 10, 12, 16). Cymbal placement was pretty much the same on both kits though; I very rarely stray from my preferred cymbal setup.
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Old 08-10-2016, 02:04 PM
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Those Guru's must be so sad every time they see your PDP going out to have fun. Cruel I tells ya - cruuuel!!!
I agree with Andy Larry, get those Guru's gigging!
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Old 08-10-2016, 03:01 PM
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I have 4 kits set up right now. 4, 5, 6, and 7 piece kits with different drum setups and different cymbal setups. It gives me a reason to play all of them. If they were all the same I would probably pick just one kit I like best and not touch the others.
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Old 08-16-2016, 05:16 AM
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3 main kits, all quite different, also tend to change set up live a lot keeping myself from falling into a trap of complacency. Don't like to be a slave to my set up, getting to used to one configuration and being limited by it.
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Old 08-16-2016, 11:57 AM
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I haven't had the space or need to have two kits setup in a while but when I did they were being used for rehearsals with two different projects I was playing in at the time, they were setup similarly but not exactly the same.
With one project I used a 4 piece kit with a crash on my left and crash/ride on my right side, with the other group I played a 5 piece kit with two rack toms mounted off a cymbal stand and I also used a dedicated ride cymbal.
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Old 08-16-2016, 02:43 PM
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2 kits set up - 10/12/14/20 and 12/14/18.

One bagged up - 10/12/14/18.
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Old 08-17-2016, 11:17 AM
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Tama 4pc B/B is the kit ready to go anywhere/anytime. I only use 3 cymbals and hi-hats with that. I just got the Black Panther/Black Widow kit so it's currently getting a lot of play time as I try different tuning/ mic arrangement etc. Saturns are stacked up under a sheet but I have room to set them up if I want. It's tight though.
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All of mine are set up identically.

2 of my kits are 1 up 2 down and one is 1 up 1 down.

I have an extra bass drum I can add on my Ludwig but it's never used and I have a 14x10 Ludwig tom that I don't like or use.

It would be nice to have the money to have lots of toms/bass drums to experiment with but I'm happy with the setup at the moment.
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I use to keep two kits set up in my music room (one stored in the closet), but I've given all away but my lil Sonor Safari. I also kept my sweet Artisan Sonor snare too-but I keep it hidden. My strategy is to look really drum poor to gain sympathy from my financial advisor-my wife. It's working-she was down in my music room and noted how empty and asked if I need a new kit? I coyly stated "Yeah maybe" and just left it at that (as I mentally do somersaults and have a Joilet Jake Blues experience and see the light https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX5tfRdkoY0)
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I have three kits, two of which I keep set up for my teaching studio. The third is always packed and ready for a gig. I have redundant hardware and cymbals.
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I have 4 kits set up right now. 4, 5, 6, and 7 piece kits with different drum setups and different cymbal setups. It gives me a reason to play all of them. If they were all the same I would probably pick just one kit I like best and not touch the others.
What type of space do you have them setup in?
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I have several kits set up, my purpose is both different sounds and configurations.

6 piece Gretsch Purewood Oak with clear heads and a ported bass drum. Zildjian K cymbals.


6 piece Gretsch Purewood Hickory with white heads and unported bass drum. Meinl Byzance Benny Greb cymbals.

5 piece Whitney with Zildjian Kerope cymbals set up for right handed guest drummers.

5 piece Sleishman with Paiste 2002 cymbals.

5 piece PDP in Bonham configuration with Paiste Giant Beat cymbals.

4 piece Premier with Paiste/Zildjian/Bettis cymbals.

I literally walk from kit to kit when I practice to challenge myself with different setups.
What type of space are you in that you can do this?
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Old 01-12-2017, 11:31 PM
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I have 3 acoustic kits and they are all gigging kits depending on which group I am playing with. I have my e-kit set up in my home office. I use that for rehearsing at home.
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All my kits only have two toms, so I tend to use them. The practice e-kit only has the floor tom, though.
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What type of space do you have them setup in?
In my basement:


That photo doesn't show the 4th kit set up. I added another section to "drum island" to set it up. These 3 kits were sitting on a 12 foot by 8 foot platform.
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I don't have multiple kits set up but if I did I would probably have one set up 2 up, 1 down just for variety. My go-to is 1 up 1 down with hat, ride, and two crashes. For gigs I add a cowbell and tambourine on the hat.

Alas, I don't have room for more than one kit set up at home. I live in an apartment and have to keep it low volume with mesh heads. Will probably be getting the Zildjian low volume cymbals sooner rather than later. Played them at the store and they're a zillion times better than foam rubber pads.
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Currently have two kits set up at my home studio. Could have more but I also have three synth setups.

My kits are

1) 5-piece (12/13/16 + 22 bass + 14 snare) Taye Thunder kit with 2 rides (20 & 22) on the right, 2 crashes (16 & 18) on the left and hihats (14). I have a combination of bright and dark cymbals (mostly Owls) and a Sabian Pro 20" ride. Cymbals go left to right from smaller to bigger size. I eventually plan to use this kit for recording.

2) 4-piece (10/14 + 20 bass + 14 snare) Sonor Player kit with 13" hats, 17" crash on the left, 22" ride just above the bass drum, slightly to the right (where a second air tom would go), and a 15" crash on the far right. Also have a cowbell and tambourine that I use for a couple songs. All cymbals are bright Owls because this will be my kit for rock gigs and I like the cymbals to cut through. I currently have this kit set up but I will probably leave it bagged, ready for gigs.
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Alas, I don't have room for more than one kit set up at home. I live in an apartment and have to keep it low volume with mesh heads. Will probably be getting the Zildjian low volume cymbals sooner rather than later. Played them at the store and they're a zillion times better than foam rubber pads.
Have you tried playing with rutes instead of regular drumsticks. They great for low-volume practice while still keeping some bounce and sounding like a stick, unlike brushes or mallets.
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You mean like hot rods? I have some but it's not quite what I'm after for practice. I want to be able to use sticks and have a close realistic feel with low volume. Mesh heads and Zildjian L80 cymbals seem to be the best way to go.
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2 kits set up for teaching, identical setups:

1965 Ludwig 13/16/22, 15" hats, 18" crash, 21" ride
1970 Ludwig 12/14/20, 14" hats, 16" crash, 20" ride

Depending on the student, I'll play on either kit. When I gig, I play a 4 piece, but have more crashes, usually 3.
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I have 5 kits but only keep one set up at a time. But I keep my cheapest set at the band's jam spot.
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My kit kept growing until it schism' into two. I keep a Cymbal and drum kit set up in the attic, and a "lounge" kit in the living room, basically a 16" bass drum and mini hihat with wood blocks, tamborine, gongs, shakers, rattles, chimes etc... I recently added a DIY shekere which sounds fabulous, it just hangs on the rattle rack.
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I clearly don't have as much space as others.

My Sonor Prolite is setup in the corner of my spare room with a computer desk (with associated gear) right next to it. Cymbals are plentiful but quite close together (as I am sternoclavicularly challenged)

The rest of the room is full of snares, guitars and leads.

Plus I have a Yamaha Stage custom stacked up in the corner which was going to be my practice kit, but the room fell through and we never got setup there.

I have a set of Paiste Signatures that normally just sits in my case ready to go out with a snare and spare eliminator for practice rooms which have backlines. Going to switch the Paistes for my Avedis set at the weekend. Signatures seem to record better for some reason

1 up, 1 left and 1 right as you can see.

With the Yamaha I have 2 up 1 down and 1 left
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Default Re: Those who keep multiple kits set up

I have a kit at home, a kit I play at church, and a kit I play at the band's rehearsal space, all of which are set up very similarly. The benefit is that I can practice any material, anywhere, and actually be creating muscle memory to play it on any of the kits. I also own a Yamaha Stage Custom kit with all even sizes 8" through 16" and a 20" kick. I use that kit when hired to do something that a four-piece kit can't do.
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