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Old 05-03-2016, 01:43 AM
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Any Tom Petty fans, Netflix is showing a great documentary on him and the Heartbreakers. It's almost 4 hours long but very entertaining .
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Followed his music for a long time and peter'ed off shortly after FMF.

Will certainly take a look at this. Thanx!
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Old 05-03-2016, 02:17 AM
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One time I got stuck on a long trip and they told me not to bring my CD's, cause they had tons.

Once we met up and got on the road, I looked for all the CDs. They were forgotten and all we had in the car was Tom Petty's greatest hits in the player.

I haven't listened to much TP since then.
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Old 05-03-2016, 04:48 PM
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For the longest time, I pretty much did not pay much attention to Tom Petty's music. Then something clicked. I find Petty's music awesome.

I saw this documentary, in pieces some time ago. Watched what I could and it just made me love the music more. Now I can watch the whole thing.
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Old 05-03-2016, 05:07 PM
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Beyond the story of the band, there is a detailed background of his fighting the music industry for when his "good buddy producer " has him sign away all of his publishing rights. He went to court and won and changed how things are now done with music rights. Very interesting.
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He is pretty much a "greatest hits" artist for me but his latest album is really, really good.
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Yeah I've seen that. I was never that much of a fan, but the film is so well made and engaging, it actually got me more interested in him. I recommend it even for those who aren't big fans. It's as much as about The Heartbreakers as it is about him so if you've ever been in a band, you'll be able to relate to so much of it!
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Yes, been listening to him since I was a kid (bought the 45 of "Refugee" ;-) and Stan Lynch's pocket is one of my favorites of all time. I saw this documentary a few years ago, good stuff.
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I got a bit interested when I met drummer Steve Ferrone at a clinic here. I found the music industry info just as interesting as I did his music.
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Great! Always been a fan of Tom Petty. Just teach yourself about a half dozen guitar chords and one could play rhythm guitar to just about everything they ever did. LOL! I've not yet heard about it although will definitely watch.

It'll be tough to beat the History Of The Eagles documentary however. Must have watched that a dozen times. Still bummed regarding Glenn Frey.
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I remember TP in the 70's with 'Breakdown' and 'I need to Know' on the charts (not hits then BTW) listening to TP's voice and never dreaming he'd make it anywhere.
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Great! Always been a fan of Tom Petty. Just teach yourself about a half dozen guitar chords and one could play rhythm guitar to just about everything they ever did....
What are the other 2 chords????

(And for the record, I do like Tom Petty's stuff.)
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Hubby grew up in Gainesville, near TP. Petty said he was going to be a rock star.
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He was considered part of the Punk when he first came out. Believe it or not Ripley.
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I think Ripley fails here. In four hours of documentary I remember nothing about him and Punk. This is all I could find with his name and punk in the same sentence.

Tom Petty called the Rolling Stones "my punk music" during an interview with CBC, crediting the British rockers with convincing him and thousands of other aspiring American musicians at the time that they could make rock and roll music. "They were grittier [than the Beatles]; it was rawer," Petty recalled. "They were playing blues in this really energetic kind of raw way, but it wasn't complicated. There wasn't a lot of beautiful harmony involved."
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I think Ripley fails here. In four hours of documentary I remember nothing about him and Punk. This is all I could find with his name and punk in the same sentence.
There's an allusion to this early on in the film. It ultimately says that you had the 60's rock, then in the 70's you had rock excess, then Disco hit... In 76/77 you had a breath of fresh air in the NY based new-wave and Punk (think Talking Heads, Television, Debbie H) movement, and Petty was associated with this movement only because he was 'not' disco.

A lot of great working bands came out of 76/77 that had hits in 78/79/80. Knack, Cars, Police, THeads, Tom Petty, Stray Cats, Hooters (both solo and by proxy Cyndi Lauper) etc.

I'm about 1.5h into the documentary at this point, and chip away at it 15 mins a night.
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I stand corrected then. I sure missed that part...
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Thanks for posting.
Just started watching it today in small segments.
Great documentary!
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I it last night. What an example of sticking to your guns and succeeding for thirty years. Wow
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I watched this several months ago; I had it recorded on DVR. A very interesting history of Petty and the Heartbreakers as well as the music industry as a whole.

A long-ass documentary, for sure... but I got it all watched in 2 nights.
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I it last night. What an example of sticking to your guns and succeeding for thirty years. Wow
My point of contention back then (as disco ruled) was, 'This is what pop/rock has to counter?', it didn't look promising, TP's crackly sounding voice, the smallness of it all (compared to earlier rock), it/they sounded like another flash in the pan, but TP keep going. Proved to me there's always a market for pop songs.
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My point of contention back then (as disco ruled) was, 'This is what pop/rock has to counter?', it didn't look promising, TP's crackly sounding voice, the smallness of it all (compared to earlier rock), it/they sounded like another flash in the pan, but TP keep going. Proved to me there's always a market for pop songs.
The smallness of it all was exactly why it succeeded.

Mid 70's rock and rock/pop was pretty overblown stuff, with lavish production values and string/brass sections everywhere you looked. The stripped back sound that emerged was absolutely a counter.
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My point of contention back then (as disco ruled) was, 'This is what pop/rock has to counter?', it didn't look promising, TP's crackly sounding voice, the smallness of it all (compared to earlier rock), it/they sounded like another flash in the pan, but TP keep going. Proved to me there's always a market for pop songs.
Bit of an issue with me as well. He , Bruce Springsteen, and a few others need to open their mouths and sing. To me, like country singers, they are too nasally.
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Bit of an issue with me as well. He , Bruce Springsteen, and a few others need to open their mouths and sing. To me, like country singers, they are too nasally.
Lots (and lots) of famous singers never learned how to sing, the older ones either have nodes on their chords now, or struggle with never having properly 'grown' a head voice.

TP was not punk, at the same time as punk, but far from punks first/any wave for sure. I'd call it 'pop rock' for the day.
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The thing that shocked me about Petty was just how good of a band the Heartbreakers were early on. The guitar work on Breakdown is F'n magical. An occasion where something is so simple yet takes on a life of it's own.

Grunt, it's neat you mention Springsteen, because for some strange reason I find his early work sublime in the same way I enjoy early Petty. It's probably because I grew up listening to my father play guitar in clubs on the Jersey shore during that era.

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TP was not punk, at the same time as punk, but far from punks first/any wave for sure. I'd call it 'pop rock' for the day.
I feel bad for Elvis Costello, who had the same "Punk by virtue of not being Disco" association.

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The thing that shocked me about Petty was just how good of a band the Heartbreakers were early on. The guitar work on Breakdown is F'n magical.
You don't have to be 'good', just have a sound and TP had a sound, its what's carried him, defined his career.
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TP was not punk, at the same time as punk, but far from punks first/any wave for sure. I'd call it 'pop rock' for the day.
Semantics, but TP was lumped in with Punk back then. Maybe not directly Punk but in there. As was Blondie, Dwight Twilley, Patti Smith, Elvis Costello of course. Many more.

The only horse that I have in this race is to let folks know that Punk was originally more than just "Hardcore" played loud at blistering speeds. My mid/late-70s band played stuff like that, but we also played a lot of other styles. No way we could get a gig in any of the Rock clubs of the day. It was all lumped together under the Punk moniker.

Maybe our hometown contemporaries had a handle on it. :-)
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I feel bad for Elvis Costello, who had the same "Punk by virtue of not being Disco" association.
Huh? It didn't seem to do him any harm.
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Big Petty fan. Might be time to re up Netflix
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You got lucky and here comes my girl was some cool jams. I love putting my headphones and playing along. Nothing fancy but a good groove none the less.
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I thought Steve Ferrone is a much better drummer than TP's original drummer.
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Thanks for the heads up. About half way through now and loving it. One of my all-time faves...the live clips alone are incredible.
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Thanks for the heads up. About half way through now and loving it. One of my all-time faves...the live clips alone are incredible.
Just got through to the end last night.

It's uncanny to my ear to hear live 70's clips that have been run through vocal-autotune treatment, but yeah, the stuff from his tour of Europe was absolutely incredible. The Super-Trooper's story about the keyboard player eating the hashish in customs was hilarious (accompanied by the live footage).
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Finally got to finish this, and I'm struck (although not entirely surprised) by the people who are in awe of TP's music and writing, and his personality.

It's big list, but from memory...

Roger McGuinn
Stevie Nicks
Dave Grohl
Jeff Lynne
Dave Stewart
George Harrison

and there will be others I've missed.

Highly recommended doco.
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My attitude and perception of music has changed a ton since joining this forum. I was so far removed from music and drumming until I found this site that I couldn't name the drummer of many bands other than The Beatles and The Rolling Stones. Now I listen to much more music and key in on the drummers. Even as a drummer I keyed in on the bass and keyboards. And over the last 6 or 7 years or so, I have met maybe 6 or 7 drummers of huge bands and a few great dummers who were/are clinicians. Having met Steve Ferrone, I watched Tom Petty with a complete different angle. Another reason I enjoy this forum so much. And just to think, because of this forum, I met a semi-great drummer who plays for an accordian. Oh boy.
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