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Old 11-06-2008, 01:27 PM
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Whew! Finished reading all 2779 posts and now I don't have a question. Maybe I'll think up something Friday at PASIC. Love your work - Drop, NIL Recurring, The Crimson show in Chicago, all your educational materials. It will be good to see you live. Thanks for being the best drummer who plays like Gavin Harrison!

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Old 11-07-2008, 10:09 PM
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Hey Gavin,
Ive been wondering about the fill in the song "Shes Moved on" that you play about 30 seconds into the song. I couldnt find it and didnt really want to look through 70 pages of this thread to find it. If anyone has a transcription of this fill and could post it, I would really appreciate it.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:01 AM
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Ive been wondering about the fill in the song "Shes Moved on" that you play about 30 seconds into the song. I couldnt find it and didnt really want to look through 70 pages of this thread to find it. If anyone has a transcription of this fill and could post it, I would really appreciate it.
Hi,
I tried transcribing it, but i'm not sure if it's 100% correct. I think it's pretty close.
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Old 11-08-2008, 04:45 AM
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Don't feel like reading through like 30 pages.

Anyway, my name is Joe I live in New York and Gavin Harrison is my favorite drummer of all time and Porcupine Tree is my favorite band.

Gavin, that fill that you do in "The Creator Had A Master Tape" I base my whole style off playing off of that one fill if that makes any sense.

Of course I bought your DVD and I have every porcupine tree song on my ipod.

Been playing for 4 years your drumming has really had a huge impact on mine.


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Old 11-08-2008, 05:28 PM
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Gavin,

It was great to see you play that PASIC. Very inspiring, informative and funny.

Thanks for a great time. I am now going to have to go buy all the Porcupine Tree CDs
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:54 PM
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Thanks for a great time. I am now going to have to go buy all the Porcupine Tree CDs
Gavin only is on albums from 2002 - Present.
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Old 11-09-2008, 08:04 AM
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Gavin only is on albums from 2002 - Present.
He actually plays the drums on the re-mixed 2005 version of Up The Downstair as well.
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:41 PM
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Hi PTEmil

I have a hard time coming up with nice polyrythmic stuff (such as Mother and Child divided, Sound of Muzak and a part of Halo) Do you have any particular tactic when you think them out? Are you counting much or are you just sitting down and improvising? Either way, I would really like to know how you are thinking when you are creating those masterpieces

Most of them come from improvising and filtering. As with any creative process - it's easy to come up with things - but you need to filter out the stuff you consider to be crap...and that process in itself is very personal. Based on what I think is crap - or cliche - or over the top or whatever. I always look for an architectural balance in the design of the rhythm and how it's going to work inside the piece of music it was designed for. Sometimes it is the starting place for the music (as with "Mother & Child") but I later modified it once some of the music was written as I thought it was too funky for the style of the piece.

Hi Brodel

I was just curious about your double bass technique.. You may have touched on my question in previous posts but I wasn't able to find anything...I was just wondering how you perform fast beats with the double bass and what methods you use...For example, on the heavy breakdown of Open Car during live shows, for those six straight 32nd notes, do you just play those as single strokes and alternate each leg, or is it more of a double stroke with each foot, like maybe using heel-toe? I can't remember if you prefer playing heel down or up....Similar question for the super heavy part before the last chorus in the second part of Anesthetize...Any details on how you go about playing these parts would be helpful!

I always play heel up - I always play single strokes and I always start with the right foot. Thanks to DanJacobs for the posting of that section in Anesthetize.

Also...any news on a release date for the new PT live album with material from the Atlanta show last year?

No real news about that for now - but we have it - and will probably release it sometime next year.

Hi franklinj

Ive been wondering about the fill in the song "Shes Moved on" that you play about 30 seconds into the song.


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(Hi hidde you were 99% right!!).

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Old 11-10-2008, 08:13 PM
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Gavin .........
You kicked butt at PASIC!!!!! You're such a great player!

Didn't get to say bye.....bu,t keep in touch and hope to see you soon.

Cheers brother.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:22 PM
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He actually plays the drums on the re-mixed 2005 version of Up The Downstair as well.
Yea, Like I said 2002-

I finally learned the part in "halo" only I can't keep the hi hat steady =(

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Old 11-10-2008, 11:15 PM
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Hey Gavin and thanks for the great answer!

When you wrote, I always look for an architectural balance in the design of the rhythm, what exactly did you mean?

My friend, who is a bassplayer, wonders if there is a similar forum where Colin Edwin is participating? He obviously got jealous and wanted some tips himself!

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Old 11-11-2008, 03:44 PM
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Hi all !
Hi Gavin ! I really dig your playing ! >>> Technical, creative and tasty.
Hope to see you and Porcupine Tree here in Brazil.
You guys have a lot of fans here.

My little question > Whats the time signature on the verse part of "Open Car" ?

* Can the transcribers here on this forum please post a transcription of the beggining of
the song "Mother & Child Divided" ?



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Old 11-11-2008, 04:02 PM
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Hi PTEmil

When you wrote, I always look for an architectural balance in the design of the rhythm, what exactly did you mean?


Something that has a foundation & support and hopefully is more than just functional.

My friend, who is a bassplayer, wonders if there is a similar forum where Colin Edwin is participating?


I've no idea.

Hi Luis

My little question > Whats the time signature on the verse part of "Open Car" ?


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* Can the transcribers here on this forum please post a transcription of the beggining of the song "Mother & Child Divided" ?

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Have a look at the "SEARCH THIS THREAD" function and you'll find a lot of stuff about it.

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Old 11-11-2008, 07:08 PM
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Yea, Like I said 2002-
hehe, didn't think you were including that one.....
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Old 11-12-2008, 02:07 AM
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Gavin, I'm working on "futile" I can't and never will be able to play the version on your DVD so instead I'm trying the regular version. During the chorus the "burnt out tracks" are you doing 1/4 notes or 1/8 notes on the bell? or going back and forth from the ride to the bell.

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Old 11-12-2008, 04:30 PM
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Hey Gavin-

Great to meet you in Austin!!

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Old 11-12-2008, 05:38 PM
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Where can I watch a video from Gavin's clinic at pasic? I must see it!
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:01 PM
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Gavin, I'm working on "futile" I can't and never will be able to play the version on your DVD so instead I'm trying the regular version. During the chorus the "burnt out tracks" are you doing 1/4 notes or 1/8 notes on the bell? or going back and forth from the ride to the bell.

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As I hear it it's 8th notes with quarter note accents on the bell
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:12 PM
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Hi etnies12188

Gavin, I'm working on "futile" I can't and never will be able to play the version on your DVD so instead I'm trying the regular version. During the chorus the "burnt out tracks" are you doing 1/4 notes or 1/8 notes on the bell? or going back and forth from the ride to the bell.

Yes it's 8th notes on the ride with 1/4 note accents on the bell.

Hi *JOHN FAVICCHIA *

Great to meet you in Austin!!

Great to meet you and see you play.

Hi DTrocks

Where can I watch a video from Gavin's clinic at pasic? I must see it!

As far as I know it wasn't recorded.

Hi Alex P.

Here is a transcription I did of the PT song, Lazarus. Tell me what you think about it, because I don't know if everything is wright. Sometimes it's more an interpretation of what I hear than the real drum part.

I would say it's 99% correct. There might be an extra bass drum here and there - but certainly not important. What other tunes have you transcribed?

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Old 11-13-2008, 07:08 PM
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What other tunes have you transcribed?
At the moment, i am transcribing Blackest Eyes.
I'll post it when it's done.
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:28 AM
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Thanks for the reply Gavin.

Maybe I'll make a video of me playing it soon if I can do good enough.
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Old 11-15-2008, 03:34 AM
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Hey Gav...

I know it's totally an illegal question....how's drumming oriented on the next PT album...or..what's your tendency is gonna be... classic/jazzy... or deeper into the heavy aspects of ur latest drumming so far... What I mean, is if us mortals gonna be able to understand it? =)

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Old 11-15-2008, 05:20 PM
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Hi Gavin,

I wanted to ask you about Porcupine Tree Playalongs.

I want to play at a contest and i would like to play a song of you or porcupine tree.
maybe sound of muzak or so.

Do you have playalongs you could send me, or are some on dvds of you?

WOULD BE GREAT
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:04 AM
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Hi Russkie

I know it's totally an illegal question....how's drumming oriented on the next PT album...or..what's your tendency is gonna be... classic/jazzy... or deeper into the heavy aspects of ur latest drumming so far... What I mean, is if us mortals gonna be able to understand it? =)


I haven't really got that far. Very little has been written and I haven't had time to consider what to play yet.

Hi Kalma

I wanted to ask you about Porcupine Tree Playalongs. I want to play at a contest and i would like to play a song of you or porcupine tree.maybe sound of muzak or so.
Do you have playalongs you could send me, or are some on dvds of you?


I don't have any I can give you. I remember that a German magazine called "Drumhead" did their own playalong of "The Sound Of Muzak" 2 or 3 years ago. You might be able to find it somewhere.

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Old 11-17-2008, 10:28 AM
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Hi Kalma

I wanted to ask you about Porcupine Tree Playalongs. I want to play at a contest and i would like to play a song of you or porcupine tree.maybe sound of muzak or so.
Do you have playalongs you could send me, or are some on dvds of you?


I don't have any I can give you. I remember that a German magazine called "Drumhead" did their own playalong of "The Sound Of Muzak" 2 or 3 years ago. You might be able to find it somewhere.

Cheers
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Hi Gavin,

you played a sound of muzak on MD. Are your playalongs licensed?


Maybe somebody here can help me. Please mail me if you have a playalong or know, where i can get it!!!
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:39 AM
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Hi Gavin,

I have a nice collection of snare drums; about eleven pristine examples in my collection including an original Radio King and a Noble & Cooley US Civil War snare drum (circa 1862). However, all of my snares are 14 inch (the N&C is 15 inch). I notice you play a smaller, deeper snare drum. I love your snare drum nuances and dynamics. Can you tell me the dimensions and head combination?

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Old 11-20-2008, 04:48 AM
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Gavin I need help badly, its driving me crazy the fill you do in "Slippin away part 2" Around the 1:56 mark when u hit the snare and choke the cymbals please tell me how to do it I've tried so many times.

Please help.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:45 PM
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Hi Kalma,

you played a sound of muzak on MD. Are your playalongs licensed?

do you mean are they published and released somewhere? No.

Hi pilot19

I have a nice collection of snare drums; about eleven pristine examples in my collection including an original Radio King and a Noble & Cooley US Civil War snare drum (circa 1862). However, all of my snares are 14 inch (the N&C is 15 inch). I notice you play a smaller, deeper snare drum. I love your snare drum nuances and dynamics. Can you tell me the dimensions and head combination?

It depends which snare drum - or song - you're referring to. I tend to use 14x5 a lot with Porcupine Tree - and sometimes I use a 12x5 (you may have seen that little white Sonor one on a clip somewhere). On that drum is usually a Remo Coated Ambassador - and a snare side Ambassador too. On the 14x5 drums I use either a Remo C.S or a Coated Pinstripe. I rarely use a snare drum deeper than 5".

Hi Alex P.

I finished the transcription of "Blackest Eyes". I hope there are not too many mistakes. ( Bar 21 to 35: I think you play on a other snare drum, on the second "16nd note" of the third beat, but I'm not sure.)


Very good - I noticed a couple of tiny mistakes - but I know how hard it is to transcribe things. Yes I seem to remember there was a second snare drum off to my left for those hits.

Now, I'll try to transcribe "Nil Recurring".


Good luck - I look forward to seeing it.

Hi etnies12188

Gavin I need help badly, its driving me crazy the fill you do in "Slippin away part 2" Around the 1:56 mark when u hit the snare and choke the cymbals please tell me how to do it I've tried so many times.

It's just a snare hit leading onto a choked cymbal crash - but I play 3 notes on the bass drum leading onto that crash...so the 3rd bass drum lands exactly with the crash. It's quite easy to see that from the overhead camera shot.

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Old 11-20-2008, 08:09 PM
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Thanks, I finally got it. I just made a video of me doing it by the way. I got the 1st fill as well.
I'm pretty sure its =

Bass+Crash, Snare, Tom, Tom.
Bass+Crash Tom, Tom.

Thanks for the help Gavin, I can't get enough of that fill.

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Old 11-22-2008, 02:11 PM
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any updates on the new OSI album? Long time since i've heard something...

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Old 11-23-2008, 03:27 AM
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Hey Gavin!

I try to improve the sound of my homestudio/basement. I see you use this kind of acousticelements.. my question is, which company make them or even where did you ordered them. Are they covert with this purplestuff or did you convert them? You use the lower one's to absorb your Bassdrum and the higher ones to kill echo from your room , am i right? Also i'd love to get an advice how you place them around your drumset ..


Thank you for your time.

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Old 11-23-2008, 01:47 PM
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Hi DTrocks

any updates on the new OSI album? Long time since i've heard something...

I believe they are mixing it (or will be soon). Other than that - I don't know when it will be released.

Hi Trains'

I try to improve the sound of my homestudio/basement. I see you use this kind of acousticelements.. my question is, which company make them or even where did you ordered them. Are they covert with this purplestuff or did you convert them? You use the lower one's to absorb your Bassdrum and the higher ones to kill echo from your room , am i right? Also i'd love to get an advice how you place them around your drumset ..

I have three Audio Kinetics maneuverable panels (about 3 foot high and 3 foot wide). I don't think that company exists anymore. You still see them in studios - and I bought them from a studio that closed. You can see the 3 of them around the kit in this video:

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/g...sonswerve.html

Don't be fooled by the purple/blue stuff - that's just very thin material that I hung up for lighting/contrast reasons for the cameras when I shot my last DVD.

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Old 11-25-2008, 06:29 PM
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Hi Gavin,

I have a question to Sound of Muzak from Arriving Somewhere and In Absentia.
Are the guitars played in the same way on Arriving as on In Absentia?

Because i Tried your fill at 3:11 in the In Absentia Version but it seemed not to fit.

Thanks David


At Terry:
I wanted to ask if you can transcribe me the fills in this video:
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At 0:39 and 1:06
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Old 11-26-2008, 01:06 PM
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Hello Sir,
Iv decided to become one of those Gavin wannabes and cut an old crash ride and convert it into a Gavin Bell. Will it be better if i just take the cymbal to a local drum manufacturer and get it cut? I believe they do that pretty often.

Will the pitch of the cymbal change after i cut it? not that it really matters though, but right now its B unlike any of my other cymbals.

Also your snare sounds very deep low phat and crisp. I always thought one could get that sorta sound only with snares deeper than 6.5" but you manage to get that with 5". Howcome?

Finally, my snare seems to be tuned (and sounds) quite similar to your snare in Drop but that is only when its off. Once i put the snare on, it sounds crisp but thin and high. I was wondering if adding compression and reverb on a recording will do the trick because when i wear noise reduction earplugs it sounds a lot like your snare (ie deep low phat).
I know there are tons of parameters involved but im just confused cause when its off it sounds like your snare but not when its on :( ?

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Old 11-26-2008, 01:26 PM
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oh oh oh and i was just watching Rhythmic Illusions DVD and in the first over-riding lesson you play an over-ride pattern in 5/16 with hits on 1 3 4 and rests on 2 and 5
im so excited because i inadvertently discovered that a couple of years ago and it was my first attempt at playing polyrhythms

i normally play that on the ride with my left hand playing notes 1 and 3 of a 4/8 pattern on the snare and legs playing bass hat hat in 3/8 :)
so its
legs - 3/8
left hand - 4/8
right hand - 5/16

i also like playing that with my right foot
and playing a 2 against 3 polyrhythm with my hands
sometimes i also fill in the empty spaces on 2 and 5 (of 5/16) with hat chokes
it adds a nice touch to that pattern

(im sure you already knew all of this, sorry couldnt contain my excitement)
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Old 11-26-2008, 05:14 PM
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Hi Kalma

I have a question to Sound of Muzak from Arriving Somewhere and In Absentia.
Are the guitars played in the same way on Arriving as on In Absentia?
Because i Tried your fill at 3:11 in the In Absentia Version but it seemed not to fit.


yes you're right it has changed - but it was never 'written in stone' in the first place. What happened on 'In Absentia' was probably a lucky accident that the drums and guitars played those accents together. As you'll be able to tell - the drum fills are quite different between the two performances.

Hi drumbumhamza

Iv decided to become one of those Gavin wannabes and cut an old crash ride and convert it into a Gavin Bell. Will it be better if i just take the cymbal to a local drum manufacturer and get it cut? I believe they do that pretty often.

Yes good idea.

Will the pitch of the cymbal change after i cut it? not that it really matters though, but right now its B unlike any of my other cymbals.


I think so.

Also your snare sounds very deep low phat and crisp. I always thought one could get that sorta sound only with snares deeper than 6.5" but you manage to get that with 5". Howcome?

I don't really get on well with 6.5" deep snare drums. I find I can get the sound I want from a 5".

Finally, my snare seems to be tuned (and sounds) quite similar to your snare in Drop but that is only when its off. Once i put the snare on, it sounds crisp but thin and high. I was wondering if adding compression and reverb on a recording will do the trick because when i wear noise reduction earplugs it sounds a lot like your snare (ie deep low phat). I know there are tons of parameters involved but im just confused cause when its off it sounds like your snare but not when its on :( ?


As you may have already read - I use Puresound snares cut down to 8 strands - and they are on pretty tightly. Yes the right compression settings will help make it sound a bit thicker - reverb usually helps too. You are correct - there are so many parameters that would effect it.

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Simply wanted to say how much I'm enjoying your playing on SW's amazing 'Insurgentes'. My fav' (so far) being the incredible 'NTWTCOTSun'...good stuff.

Lol@drumbumhamza's 'Gavin Bell' :) Copyright office here I come.
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he is a great drummer...recently one of my favourite...his playing is great and he has a great sense of groove and "floating rhythm" {if you understand what i mean..}..and in the MD Festival he was perfect...
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Hi Gavin

I think it┤s time for a "Gavin Harrison custom signature snare" by Sonor ;-) Could be a good bussiness!!, or at least the end of questions about your snares :-)) -just joking-

By the way, using the infinite SQ2 configurator, what should be ordered? A vintage shell snare without re enforcement hoops and rounded bearing edges?

Most of us are expecting for the second with 05.

Best regards and many thanks.

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I just wanted to say that I really love Gavins drumming. And that Sonor-kit really sounds almost to awesome. Everything about it's so great (Snare, Toms and Bass).
My favourite drumtracks with PT/Gavin would have to be Nil Recurring, What Happens Now and The Creator Has A Mastertape. I just love it on Nil Recurring when everything goes quiet at 2 min and the drums come in. And the break five minutes in on Fear Of A Blank Planet. But honestly I can't think of one song with PT i don't like.

I also wanna thank Gavin for making making me wanna play drums in the first place and for still making me wanna play, progress and get better. When i'm listening to your music I just can't wait to get behind a kit.

I have some issues though with drumming that you maybe could give me a smart tip about. Some exersises or something, I don't know.
Well I have not been playing for very long. But one thing I find really hard is to keep the hi-hat going while im playing some groove on the ride. I find it really hard to do the same grooves between the kick, snare and ride when i'm playing the hi-hat with my foot. It would be really great if you had som tip or anything.

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