Andy
Honorary Member
We're pretty much there on that!Record companies will become a thing of the past as they will no longer be needed for distribution.
We're pretty much there on that!Record companies will become a thing of the past as they will no longer be needed for distribution.
We're pretty much there on that!
No chance of getting you to address any of the points I made there more specifically? I'm not counting on it, but I guess it doesn't hurt to ask.As I said, it is generally understood historicism. If you read the way critics talk about drama in the 17th and 18th century, you would see that there was a respect and level of reverancey given it that was not given to music until the nineteenth century, though we see it brewing in the 17th century.
Those two sentences make no sense, especially in the context of anything that Plato actually wrote. But I guess this is about the best we're going to be able to do.Plato used the word art to designate language and specifically rhetoric. I don't think he used the term in the height of civil discourse,
Here's my official rant.
The myth that music could be art or artful ruled musicdom for some one hundred years and lead to a movement that came to be called art for art sake, L'art pour l'art. In this movement, musicians came to see the necessity of making money off of their art as a burden to free expression of the art form.
I think you're onto something hereMaybe if we tried talking about something more "casual" that could work better.
I really think they will. Youngsters with imaginations will always want to get their fingers on the actual things that make music.Fast forward 100 years. I have to wonder what music will become. Will there be any humans playing acoustic instruments anymore?
This is implying that anything that involves monetary compensation is not an art, but actual work.
I don't get it when people assume that someone can't enjoy what they do for a living.
Hell, you think that's bad Ken, I get in trouble every time I click on Drummerworld. "She who shall be obeyed" is not impressed that I'm "wasting my time" on such things. "Why do you need to talk about drums when you're already playing them? It's not like you've got anything to learn!" Ha, if only!, I've gotten in trouble for stating that too. On the internet, you get in trouble for being too casual and then and for not being casual enough, and all in a matter of two posts.
That's easy, 2110.Fast forward 100 years.
Will there be any humans playing acoustic instruments anymore?
I actually do have graduate degrees in philosophy (I have way too many degrees--five in total, so far, all in music and philosophy though). The background that led to that is part of what was creating a problem for me in the discussion, however.I've found that if you don't have graduate level studies in philosophy under your belt, the great pontificator will attempt to browbeat you into submission (or at least insist that you stay the hell out of his way).
Musicians are a "funny breed" and quite resistant to change. The trumpet, for example, has been around for over 150 years (the box valve, being patented in 1818). And no one, seems too keen on replacing it, yet.Compare that to "military" thinking, 150 years ago, the battle rifle of the day was a musket. Now, it's a select-fire, magazine fed, assault weapon, most likely with a collapsible stock, optical and laser sights, etc.I think the "hard part" is gonna be, where, in the metropolitian cityscape, will musicians find places to practice. And with 40 Billion people on the planet, there's gonna be a lot more cityscape. People "now" find it hard to play, with neighbors complaining and all. It ain't gonna get any easier...
Sweet!I actually do have graduate degrees in philosophy (I have way too many degrees--five in total, so far, all in music and philosophy though).
It's not about just doing the reading; it's about understanding what you've read, really internalizing it and doing some synthesis. I don't see a lot of that in your posts. But I do see a fair amount of dogmatic malarkey that I feel compelled to challenge. That's just being upfront and honest; I didn't initially set out to make you mad or defensive.Well, dude, I've done the reading.
I've been tempted to reply to your posts when I've agreed with them. Maybe I'll work on that.You've never had a positive thing to say about one of my post
We're pretty much there on that!
I aspire to rise to the role of toilet cleaner
But, on the other hand, there are a lot of Chinese with money. This last year, for the first time, in the history of the world, China auto sales were higher than US auto sales. The Chinese bought more cars ... than anyone else ... in the world. As Mr. Rogers would say .... "can you say globalpowershift(?) ... kiddies ... sure ... I knew you could!"Even today poor Chinese live in dwellings not much larger than a bed, and most of that is taken up by the bed.
And the next 10 years is gonna be a rocky road...The way we are living is unsustainable....