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Old 04-12-2011, 06:28 AM
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I have been playing drums for more than 30 years now. My favorite genre is Jazz/Fusion.

Hereís my problem. I had an accident about 4 years ago in which I hit my head severely in a fall from about 100 feet, suffered a concussion which has affected my 3rd cranial nerve. I broke my right arm, wrist, two ribs and my sternum. I was rock climbing/repelling. Iím lucky to be alive. I love music as much as life itself. I have noticed since the accident that I am unable to hit my timing like I use to, also my speed has suffered. I also cannot jump around my kit when doing fills and riffs like I use to. My bass technique has suffered as well. In my mind I know what I want to do and use to do it quite well. In the beginning after my recovery I thought this would pass, but it has actually gotten worse. I have always been physically fit. My physical therapist said that I have lost my muscle twitch. Even when I run, most times if I take off quickly I fall flat on my face. The members of our band say they notice I donít play the same anymore. If I canít play drums any longer I feel I serve no purpose, I feel like I have thrown it all away. Drums and Percussion are my life. Any comments?

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Old 04-12-2011, 06:40 AM
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This guy has had it much worse, and yet still goes on.
http://www.lookmanofeet.com/

I've had some bad shoulder and ankle injuries that prevent me from doing all I'd like to do on a drum kit, and there are times I wonder why keep going. But drumming is in my soul, it's part of who I am, so I find a way to work through it.
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Old 04-12-2011, 07:28 AM
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These things will take time. You just suffered a pretty major injury so you may have to deal with your body not agreeing to alot of the stuff you used to take for granted. But if it's truly in your blood, you will continue to work on it and it'll give you a reason to stay alive because you want to play. When I hear guys say "I feel I have no purpose" that could be seen as a red flag to the psychiatry department. Take your time, and slowly work it out. Your body is not on a time schedule.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:43 PM
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My physical therapist said that I have lost my muscle twitch.
Have you spoken with a specialist (someone much more qualified than your physical therapist) about whether the muscle twitch will return over time, and if it has in subjects like yourself? Have other physical skills and abilities returned besides drumming? I used to volunteer in a PT ward in a hospital, and I saw some pretty remarkable recoveries. Keep up the physical therapy!

I agree with Bo, it sounds like you're getting very down on yourself. Seek out the support of family, friends, and maybe a therapist and/or support group.

I really hope your drumming comes along! It's obvious you love it!
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:56 PM
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Find a way to serve ... your "new" situation ... requires an adjustment of expectation.
There are many people who will be inspired and helped by your story.

Most of us will never play to the level of Weckl or whomever ... but we all touch lives
with our gifts ... and not so great gifts.

You survived a 100 foot fall ... there has to be a purpose for you to still be alive.
I've played for a long time as well and I get a lot of joy teaching kids how to play drums.

So surprised when my 15 year old said he wanted to play drums. I've been teaching him
for about 6 months ... and he's making great progress. So much fun to see.

Find a way to give and share your story and skills.
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:14 PM
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I suffered severe injuries while working and it did change the way I play. The accident actually got me back to drumming after 20 years and was actually suggested by my wife. I have to adjust accordingly and just do the best I can. My mobility has seriously been affected, but again, I work with what I have going on. I have gotten better and so will you. Overcome and adapt, but never give up.
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:55 AM
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Find a way to serve ... your "new" situation ... requires an adjustment of expectation.
There are many people who will be inspired and helped by your story.

Most of us will never play to the level of Weckl or whomever ... but we all touch lives
with our gifts ... and not so great gifts.

You survived a 100 foot fall ... there has to be a purpose for you to still be alive.
I've played for a long time as well and I get a lot of joy teaching kids how to play drums.

So surprised when my 15 year old said he wanted to play drums. I've been teaching him
for about 6 months ... and he's making great progress. So much fun to see.

Find a way to give and share your story and skills.
+1 I think thats as perfect an answer as you're going to get.At certain points in our lives,we all need to "adjust our expections"to a certain degree,and still be grateful for our current physical abilities.
I too used to repell,and rock climb(absailing for our British brothers).Now I just repell once in a while because of an incident which gave me pause.Its great to live life to the fullest and on occasion throw caution to the wind.But family responsibilities overide self gradification at a certain point.

There is a reason you are still here,and it may or may not have presented itself as of yet,but i'm certain it will.

Still strive to be as good at playing your instrument as you can,never give up,and be gratefull for a second chance that some of us don't get.Good luck

Steve B
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Old 04-13-2011, 01:02 AM
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I'm not a physiotherapist by any means, so take their advice before fulfilling any suggestions that I might give.

With that said, I have heard that swimming is excellent rehabilitation therapy. Co-ordination (which I think is your main issue) and muscle therapy are major parts of swimming. I used to be a good swimmer and have declined physically since I stopped. With the advice of relevant medical practitioner I would suggest that it would be worth looking into and that it might help your drumming and quality of life in general.
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:46 PM
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Rich,

We all have the same dilemma really. We get older and lose agility, speed, muscle control, our hearing diminishes, and so on. In your case, your accident accelerated your deterioration so that you became aware of it sooner than most people do. Use this awareness to your advantage. Simplify your lines, make "less" sound better. Focus less on your technique and spend more time finding simpler things that you can play that sound better. We call that "tastey." Less is more. I guarantee you that if you take that approach you will improve and can be an even better drummer than you were before your accident. Mind you this will not be an easy process. First you have to redefine your expectations of yourself. Then you have to think through and try simpler patterns to find what works for you. If you take a positive approach to this process it should prove to be a lot of fun. Not easy necessarily, but when you come up with something new that sounds great, it will be fun.

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Old 04-13-2011, 09:19 PM
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The simple fact that you are alive, capable, and willing to come here for adivice is a testament to your passion. I'm moved. Are there any exercises or training concepts out there to help this gentleman retain his base anyone else more informed may be aware of? I'm an optimist (sometimes). I want to believe you can retrain yourself in the areas of timing and speed if you're not physically restricted too much. It makes sense you would have to. You suffered a massive brain injury. I've heard of people learning to walk and function remarkably well when they were initially given little hope to do so. But, I believe they had to retrain themselves or redevelop these abilities. All the best to you and thanks for sharing. Keep us posted.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:01 PM
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Keep pushing. Don't let old injuries get the best of you.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:17 PM
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First, Welcome!
Second, Glad your still here.

No real advice other than work on (and with) what you can, and don't get down on yourself for what your body may not be able to do as good (as you might have) RIGHT NOW.
You've come back from a major trauma, and who knows what you'll be able to do next year.

You have your life, and can still play your drums after what happened. I'd say that's a major accomplishment right there.

I heard something really horrible this morning. It was BAD, & really affected me, but reading that you are alive after what happened, came back from it, and can still play your drums actually makes me feel better, and that things aren't ALL so bad.

Good luck to ya!!!

Cheers!
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:21 PM
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Are you still in therapy. if not seek professional help. The folks on this forum will sympathize but any advice here should be taken as that. Good luck.
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:51 AM
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I'm not sure the stats on surviving a 100' fall but I'm sure they are very very low...its a miracle you are alive...miracles happen for a reason..you are meant to be here to serve a purpose as was posted... I played in a hair band in the 80's and though we didn't have the sucess we were real good at the excesses..I lost my brother and guitar player when he was 41 we were unseperatable..we were 14 months apart and are parents dressed us as twins as kids..we were drinking and drugging every day..after his death I wanted to die too...but instead I got help.. I quit drinking and drugging..I have been clean for many years and often wondered why he died and I survived...then I find myself trying to help someone trying to kick an addiction and realize this is why I'm here not to drum but to help people with my experience and hope..you are a miracle..the first thing I would do is get professional help at times we all need it I know I did..

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Old 04-15-2011, 08:05 AM
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I want to thank all of you for your wonderful kind words of inspiration and positive reinforcement. I have an extreme lump in my throat. I am overwhelmed.

I went to my doctors today, (orthopedic surgeon) and he told me that my left leg thigh muscle is atrophying, and at this stage he was going to just try and save what he can. It has been a difficult road and I know there are many others that are far worse off than me, but I do believe I am lucky to be here. I believe after todayís news, that I will more than likely go into teaching, either privately or in the public school sector. I know that I might never be as good as I once was but I will not give up. I believe that I still can give something back and your words of encouragement have given me that charge.

Thank you so much for your kind thoughts and wisdom.

Rich.
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