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Old 03-27-2015, 04:03 PM
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Hey guys, This is my first question since being introduced to this forum.

I just got called last night to help record a cover of Herbie Hancock's "Chameleon." I'd really like some input as to what snare I should use on this recording as I have a few.

14x5 Silverstar Birch snare

14x5 Sonor D-444 (it sounds a lot like a Supra)

13x4 Pearl Steel Piccolo

14x6.5 Mapex Mars Pro Steel

I've got a good assortment of heads to choose from as well. I just want to get as close as possible to the original sound.
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:01 PM
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Hey guys, This is my first question since being introduced to this forum.

I just got called last night to help record a cover of Herbie Hancock's "Chameleon." I'd really like some input as to what snare I should use on this recording as I have a few.

14x5 Silverstar Birch snare

14x5 Sonor D-444 (it sounds a lot like a Supra)

13x4 Pearl Steel Piccolo

14x6.5 Mapex Mars Pro Steel

I've got a good assortment of heads to choose from as well. I just want to get as close as possible to the original sound.
I think that the Sonor would be the best out of your drums to use. And you would want a fairly dry sound for that song also.
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:05 PM
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tune the snare like Ash Soan but maybe a bit tighter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qUMB67UlRU
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:09 PM
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I'm not familiar with any of those snares, but I'd say start with one of the 5x14s. Between those wood and metal shells, I think you'll get reasonably close to the sound. Tuning will be more important than head choice, but I'd say a coated 1-ply is your best bet.

Understand also that EQ and a little compression will govern the sound more than you can on the drum alone. So if you can get it to a point where it's almost there, or at least on its way, the engineer will take it the rest of the way.

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Old 03-28-2015, 04:42 AM
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In those days Harvey's drums were pretty damped. But a 5-6" deep wood snare should do it.

I recently did a session where the studio had a 6" wood DW fitted with one of those Evans Genera Dry heads that have a bunch of little holes around the edge. That kind of sounded like the record without being completely dead. Not a head I would want to use live, but very clean on a recording without sounding like it had a roll of toilet paper taped to it.
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Thanks for all of your input guys! I ended up going with the Sonor with a couple of Ambassadors thrown on, and the internal muffler just barely touching the head. Ended up sounding really good in the mix. I'll need to see If I can get a recording up sometime.
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