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Old 02-14-2019, 05:42 PM
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Hi everyone,

First post here from someone that has been an on and off (mostly off) drummer for the past couple of decades.

I was just wondering if someone could help me establish the value of this monster Pearl President Export kit from the mid-70s that is basically in mint condition (most of it was never used).

I'm adding a couple of pics below. It is a shell pack with the mounting hardware and stands for the toms, so please ignore the cymbals and snare as those are just for show on that picture.





- bass drums: two 26"x14"
- 8 toms: 6x5.5", 8x5.5", 10x6.5", 12x8", 13x9", 14x10", 15x12", 16x14"
- floor tom: 18x15"
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Old 02-14-2019, 05:55 PM
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No idea of value etc but just saying I really like that :)
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Old 02-14-2019, 06:18 PM
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No idea on value here either, and I too really like it. That being said, you are going to have to find the right buyer, and that might take some time.

26" kicks are huge. Someone is going to be specifically looking for kicks that size. In today's market, 22 and smaller are what people want mostly.

Concert toms. Totally cool, but again, a bit of a niche product these days.

The hardware is pre-tube mounts. That might also be a turnoff. I have an early 70s Pearl kit with the same hardware. It works just fine, but is old and not as sturdy as newer.

The kit is huge. For folks with space limitations, this is probably too much.

Good luck to you. The kit is beautiful. It might take a while to find the right buyer, but they are out there somewhere.
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You might want to look at old Pearl catalogues and see what were standard configurations for that type of kit. From there, look in to breaking up the kit in to smaller kits or one kit with lots of add on toms. Sell the one kit and part out the individual add on drums. It's going to be almost impossible to sell that kit as a whole unless you price it so cheaply that someone will just take it off your hands.
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Old 02-14-2019, 06:48 PM
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The only thing I can think of for a value would be comparing it to something that's on eBay, Reverb or other selling places. Music Go Round is another one. And see what kind of prices they're trying to sell their kits at. Another vote for parting it out as separate kits. That's the way I sold my Yamahas a year or two ago. they weren't near that big but I did have enough drums for a 3-piece she'll pack and a 4-Piece she'll pack. I think I got more money doing it that way I also put them on consignment at my local Midwest percussion store. The 3-piece shell Pac sold almost instantly 20, 10, 14 the other shell pack 22, 12, 13, 16, took a lot longer to sell. I was trying to sell them for 1800. Midwest told me they could get me more than that out of them including their Commission. I ended up getting $2,200 for the kit that I wanted 1,800 for and Midwest percussion made some money off of them also so it was a good deal
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That's a nice kit and I think you can get a good price-Pearl keeps making Exports for a reason. So 70s might qualify as "vintage" too???
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:12 PM
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Thanks everyone.

No such things online for sale as far as I can see. I have a catalogue of the era and this seems like a custom order (unfortunately my grandfather, who originally bought it in Japan, passed away a couple of decades ago, so can’t confirm it with him). I wonder if Pearl would know?

As for parting it out: this has been in the family since new (and it mostly is still new) - that means it has been like this for 40 years now. If someone else that buys it wants to part it out, it’s their thing, but I can’t bring myself to do it.
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Wait until March 1st and give Bo Eder a call. He'll be due a new kit by then. Just kidding , sorry couldn't resist.
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Wait until March 1st and give Bo Eder a call. He'll be due a new kit by then. Just kidding , sorry couldn't resist.
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Hi ricsimas and welcome to DW. Take a look at this site http://www.drumarchive.com/pearl/ this might also help. Good luck.
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:37 PM
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My recommendation is to put it back in the time capsule and wait for concert toms to become cool again and name your price! Failing that keep it.

That's collectors condition but as others have said concert toms don't fetch collectors prices. As I'm finding out at the moment there's some cheap bastards when it comes to selling online.

It looks like too much fun to sell in all honesty.

Your grandfather sounds like he was a cool guy, did he borrow the USS Enterprise to bring that kit back from Japan!

What's the cost of a re-skin on that thing?
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Just wow... And thank you for not parting it out... something like that would never get back together again and that would be a shame.
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If I were you, I wouldn't let them go for anything less than $5,000.
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:04 AM
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Old 02-15-2019, 01:06 AM
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Unfortunately, due to the sizes, concert toms, and older style hardware... probably not a whole lot.

Edit: Not a whole lot if you are wanting to sell quickly. If you are willing to sit on it for the right person who is all in to that specific niche of drums then you might get more.
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After a cursory investigation, it seems that the "Export" part of the name threw me off. It's not a budget line at all. These appear to be more of a professional line. First made of wood, then later fiberglass?

Unfortunately they have concert toms with no bottom heads. They're about as popular as bell-bottoms these days.

Are they Fiberglass or Wood?

If you put it up online for sale, you need to take quality close-up pictures. Detailed pictures. You're more likely to find a buyer if they can see every angle of the craftsmanship, the condition of the hardware, the bearing edges, and any flaws it may have.

A Youtube video demoing the sound of each drum would be HUGE. (if you have a room that doesn't butcher the sound quality)

Be sure to emphasize the rarity of this kit, especially it's age, and the story behind it, and how it was kept all those years.

Maybe...just maybe there's an eccentric drum collector out there who would be interested. (not you Bo, lol)
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Old 02-15-2019, 02:36 AM
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No bottom heads on toms is a negative. The size of kit is a problem too. The potential buyer base is going to be very limited. If you sell on line and have to ship that is going to be hugely expensive.You could spend close to $1,000 shipping all those drums.

You will probably get much less for this kit than you might expect.

Consider breaking it up into two kits. That immediately makes your buyer base infinitely larger. List on Craigslist locally to avoid shipping. Offer to meet someone halfway within 250 miles.
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Old 02-15-2019, 03:32 AM
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Those are in great shape. Post it on the Vintage Pearl group on FB for feedback and to see if anyone is interested.
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:15 AM
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What's the cost of a re-skin on that thing?
LOL! Well this is the complete story:

My father and my uncle had a band (serious thing), so my grandfather bought a bunch of gear for them when he was living in Japan and brought it with him - the issue was that the band kind of ended around that same time and most of the stuff was never used. The guitars were split between my Dad and my uncle and no one ever got the drumset or the recording gear.

When I was 13 I started playing drums and I got this set. I used 4 of its pieces (one of the BDs, two rack toms and the floor tom) for a bit. The rest was never used. Even the bits that were used have stick marks on the heads and that's it, as I've always been very careful with gear.

A short while later I got a fusion-sized set that I've been playing ever since.

Now, it seems an absurd waste to just keep this in storage. That said, of course I wouldn't just want to give it away / part it etc. as this is really not about the money, but more about doing justice to something that, anachronistic as it may be, seems pretty unique to me.

As for the cost of a re-skin, I have no idea - they are all the original Remos. ;-)
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:18 AM
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After a cursory investigation, it seems that the "Export" part of the name threw me off. It's not a budget line at all. These appear to be more of a professional line. First made of wood, then later fiberglass?
Fiberglass, yep. They don't strike me as budget at all.
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Wait until March 1st and give Bo Eder a call. He'll be due a new kit by then. Just kidding , sorry couldn't resist.
Grunt....you keep cracking me up.

As for the kit, it's a Pearl Octoplus for sure. Damn nice and if I were still into lugging around 2 large bass drums and Hal Blaine wanna be "tom line", I'd pay $2500 for sure. But that's me. Best I've heard is sell it as 2 kits. I know you don't want to do that, but as a collector/buyer, "I don't pay for sentiment or memories." You need to lay aside the memories if you really want to sell it.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:17 AM
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Maybe try contacting Pearl. They may have some interest in the kit for historical purposes. Considering it's age and condition and all the original pieces are there, they may want to use it in some sort of display or something.

Contact Al Percival on the Pearl Drummers Forum. He works for Pearl USA and is frequently on there answering questions for people. t doesn't hurt to ask.
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The thing I’ve learned is that, the more unusual the item, the more likely you’d get a MUCH higher price for it on eBay. That seems to hold true for any category of goods. It couldn’t hurt to at least post it on eBay. Even if shipping ends up being $700 USD, if you get $2700 for it, then you still got $2000 out of the kit. And there are certainly a few guys out there who want a kit like this. But I agree, contact Pearl and post this at the Pearl forum. You may have a ready-made buyer there.
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LOL! Well this is the complete story:

My father and my uncle had a band (serious thing), so my grandfather bought a bunch of gear for them when he was living in Japan and brought it with him - the issue was that the band kind of ended around that same time and most of the stuff was never used. The guitars were split between my Dad and my uncle and no one ever got the drumset or the recording gear.

Now, it seems an absurd waste to just keep this in storage. That said, of course I wouldn't just want to give it away / part it etc. as this is really not about the money, but more about doing justice to something that, anachronistic as it may be, seems pretty unique to me.
That's a crazy story, what a first kit to have! You could always say this kit was used to record the into to 'The Snake' it would be impossible to disprove :)

I'm having the same problem selling the kit I used at uni and for recording but it's not in the same sport as yours (mine is players condition.) I decided in the end not to sell mine because potential buyers were messing me around and wouldn't have appreciated the kit.

As others said contact specialist and collectors. Most people will see export and think budget kit which this isn't. It's amazing how you can attached to gear, you subconsciously attach a lot of memories to it.
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Does anyone know if Pearl has a museum or showroom or anything like that at any of their headquarters. I would almost think this would be would be great for something like that. Unfortunately that might not give you the top dollar you want.
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I would not part it out or give away at a stupid low price. There is a definitely a small niche market for it, but still a market. As I previously mentioned put it on the Vintage Pearl FB page.
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How did the kick reso’s get those bateraclube.com.br Brazillian webstore logos on them? Are you just fucking with us? Or don’t you have any actual photos of ‘your’ kit and had to pull some off the web?

A google image search reveals several photos of this exact kit on the Brazillian site.
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Fiberglass, yep. They don't strike me as budget at all.
Fiberglass drums do not bring a premium price these days and the chrome wrap I believe is Mylar,so the wear and tear resistance is not the same as a metal wrap.

Very much a niche product a la Peter Criss Kiss days.

My best guess is $800 to $1200.

If I owned a recording studio or was in a Kiss tribute band,it would be a no brainer as one would be for a 70's 80's sonic punch or the visuals required for a Kiss tribute band.

In fact if I were to try and sell them ,I would use the Kiss angle.
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So how does one reach the hanging toms on the far right side....yikes.
Incredible kit though.
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How did the kick reso’s get those bateraclube.com.br Brazillian webstore logos on them? Are you just fucking with us? Or don’t you have any actual photos of ‘your’ kit and had to pull some off the web?

A google image search reveals several photos of this exact kit on the Brazillian site.
Sort of like this?:

https://www.google.com/search?q=pear...CAIQBA#imgrc=_

Maybe they were common.

I'd have no interest in them, so haven't a clue of what they're worth.
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How did the kick reso’s get those bateraclube.com.br Brazillian webstore logos on them? Are you just fucking with us? Or don’t you have any actual photos of ‘your’ kit and had to pull some off the web?

A google image search reveals several photos of this exact kit on the Brazillian site.
Good morning to you too.

The way they got their logos is because I'm originally from Brazil and my first serious attempt at selling it were with Batera Clube a few years back...

As you can imagine, this kind of thing doesn't exactly fly off the shelves in a middle-income third-world country going through a recession, so I picked it back from them and brought it with me to the US when I moved here a couple of years ago.

Fast-forward to now, and I have no place in my home to take decent, uncluttered pics of a drumset this big. Hence, I asked Ricardo Goedert, Batera Clube's owner, if he could be so kind as to let me use their pics to advertise it, and he gently agreed to that.

However, because you've asked so nicely, this is what it looks like in the middle of my living room:



I think you'll agree that the Batera Clube pictures are nicer, hence why I used theirs.
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I SO want that kit! If for no other reason but to use the whole thing at a small wedding reception coming up ;)
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DO IT. Show up, set it up, then play the whole gig with brushes, without even hitting a single tom or the second kick. Lol
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DO IT. Show up, set it up, then play the whole gig with brushes, without even hitting a single tom or the second kick. Lol
I think we are at "double dog dare" status here.

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DO IT. Show up, set it up, then play the whole gig with brushes, without even hitting a single tom or the second kick. Lol
OMG.. i want to see that.. also have to have a full bozio type cymbal setup but only use the ride and hats....
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The problem with pricing a kit like that is it's so unique, there is no market to judge it against.

Value is simply in the eye of the beholder.

Not many drummers are going to want a kit like that at any price.
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Eric Singer collects vintage Pearl kits. His current kit on the 2019 Kiss tour is a custom set up consisting of 70's Pearl fiberglass drums. It's a pretty sick set up and all custom. He would dig that set up.
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Old 02-16-2019, 05:38 AM
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Giant kits aren't really my thing but there's something about this one that I love. So anachronistic and lovely. Fiberglass? I love it.

PLEASE DO NOT PART IT OUT! Sit on them until someone who really can appreciate them comes along. And in the meantime, they're concert toms, carefully nest them into each other and then into those giant kicks and it shouldn't take up much more storage space than a regular drum kit would!

Concert toms... giant kits... ya know, this seems right up Bermuda's alley...
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How did the kick reso’s get those bateraclube.com.br Brazillian webstore logos on them? Are you just fucking with us? Or don’t you have any actual photos of ‘your’ kit and had to pull some off the web?

A google image search reveals several photos of this exact kit on the Brazillian site.
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