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Old 02-07-2019, 05:38 PM
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Here is part one of our 4-part Gretsch USA shootout. Hope you enjoy it!

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Old 02-07-2019, 06:09 PM
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Another outstanding video. You guys are absolutely killing it. Thanks!

Can't wait until you get to the Jean-Paul Gaster size Gretsch drums.
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Another outstanding video. You guys are absolutely killing it. Thanks!

Can't wait until you get to the Jean-Paul Gaster size Gretsch drums.
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: Gretsch USA Custom vs. Broadkaster vs. Brooklyn Video

Great comparison. I was actually asking others about the different model comparisons, so great timing. The differences are very interesting actually. Seems the bigger the drum, the more noticeable the difference in the recording, but I’ll have to go back and listen again.
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Default Re: Gretsch USA Custom vs. Broadkaster vs. Brooklyn Video

Watched it yesterday.

My tastes are the same.

Love the USAs and Broadkaster to death. Don't really care much for the Brooklyn. There are other companies, like Tama and Yamaha, doing "modern" better if I'd ever feel a need for that.

Wish they'd still make the New Classics. They had something of their own going on.
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:19 PM
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https://www.drumcenternh.com/news/th...drums-shootout

Here is part one of our 4-part Gretsch USA shootout. Hope you enjoy it!

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Ok Adam. Gretsch just responded to your vid :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPi07xHq46s
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:37 PM
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Watched it yesterday.

My tastes are the same.

Love the USAs and Broadkaster to death. Don't really care much for the Brooklyn. There are other companies, like Tama and Yamaha, doing "modern" better if I'd ever feel a need for that.

Wish they'd still make the New Classics. They had something of their own going on.
So, that’s interesting how we all interpret things differently. I hear the Brooklyns as more vintagy sounding than USA, and not as vintagy as Broadkaster. Even though USA Custom has been around as long as dirt, they still sound more modern to me, but definitely not as modern as New Classics. Like you, I wish they’d bring those back. They really were the different ones in the line, and not just in looks.
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So, that’s interesting how we all interpret things differently. I hear the Brooklyns as more vintagy sounding than USA, and not as vintagy as Broadkaster. Even though USA Custom has been around as long as dirt, they still sound more modern to me, but definitely not as modern as New Classics. Like you, I wish they’d bring those back. They really were the different ones in the line, and not just in looks.

I just don't like the sound of Brooklyns. They sound unbalanced to me. Certain aspects just taken too far.

USA Customs are the sound I like.

The Broadkasters just do the 3-ply thing so well and there's relation to what I already like. They can do so much as well, of course, but the main reason for me to get a set would be to tune them low and get a folky vibe going.

When I appreciate other drums it's because of qualities they share with these.
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So, that’s interesting how we all interpret things differently. I hear the Brooklyns as more vintagy sounding than USA, and not as vintagy as Broadkaster. Even though USA Custom has been around as long as dirt, they still sound more modern to me, but definitely not as modern as New Classics. Like you, I wish they’d bring those back. They really were the different ones in the line, and not just in looks.
This was exactly my thinking as well. I liked the USA Customs the least out of the three in the video.
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I'll wait for the bigger size shootout. Nice start to the video series though.
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:30 AM
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I liked the USA Customs and the Brooklyns the best.

Shane you rock. Thanks for doing all this.
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Default Re: Gretsch USA Custom vs. Broadkaster vs. Brooklyn Video

Loved this video, can't wait for the rest in the series.

I have all three Gretsch lines, but not each in 12/14/20. I do have a 20x14 Broadkaster bass drum and it's the best 20" I've ever owned. Punch/tone/feel/looks, it has it all.

If I had to pick a favourite , it would be a hybrid - Broadkaster kick and snare, Brooklyn toms.
But then I also like USA Custom all around too. And Broadkaster toms can be great too for certain things....esp. lower tuning.
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Default Re: Gretsch USA Custom vs. Broadkaster vs. Brooklyn Video

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Ok Adam. Gretsch just responded to your vid :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPi07xHq46s
Way better production value. Why can't we get Stanton Moore?
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:46 PM
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...the problem with "that great gretsch sound" is that it keeps changing, albeit ever so slightly...for instance, an original 50s broadkaster sounds slightly different than a 60s round badge...imo...

...regarding the current offerings, the usa customs have the essential "sound" of the 60s round badges (tone-wise), whilst the broadkasters have the (lack of) attack and (lack of) sustain of the 60s round badges (some call "thuddy")...the brooklyns seem to be an updated/modernized version of "that great gretsch sound" that seems to work with modern artists (meaning, would an elvin clone pick brooklyn's or usa's or broadkaster's?)...again imo and fwiw...
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Old 02-09-2019, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Gretsch USA Custom vs. Broadkaster vs. Brooklyn Video

Nice video.
The USA's and the Broadkasters sound really close to me, but I like the Broadkasters a hair more just for the vibe.
Not too hot for the Brooklyns, but different strokes and all that.
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Default Re: Gretsch USA Custom vs. Broadkaster vs. Brooklyn Video

Thanks for the vid, this is one I've been hoping for!

That said, while I definitely get why you're tuning all the drums exactly the same, different drums tend to favor different tunings due to different shell materials, shell thicknesses, ply layups, and hoops.

Personally, I'd like to see each kit tuned to produce their ideal sound for a variety of pitches. In other words, get each kit to sound its very best at a low tuning, a medium tuning and a high tuning, even if that means they are tuned differently from one another. That should accentuate the strengths of each kit, and ideally, that would be how one would tune the kit if they were to purchase it (assuming of course they were a competent tuner).

But regardless, thanks so much for putting these together. I've played all of them at one point or another, but never back-to-back (other than at NAMM, where there's just too much background noise to really discern the differences). So it's hard to get a direct comparison otherwise.

FWIW, the more I hear them, the more I really like the Brooklyns. To me, they sound like a slightly EQ'd version of "That Great Gretsch Sound". But that BroadKaster kick... holy cow, was that massive!
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Brooklyns tuned the same?
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Thanks for the vid, this is one I've been hoping for!

That said, while I definitely get why you're tuning all the drums exactly the same, different drums tend to favor different tunings due to different shell materials, shell thicknesses, ply layups, and hoops.

Personally, I'd like to see each kit tuned to produce their ideal sound for a variety of pitches. In other words, get each kit to sound its very best at a low tuning, a medium tuning and a high tuning, even if that means they are tuned differently from one another. That should accentuate the strengths of each kit, and ideally, that would be how one would tune the kit if they were to purchase it (assuming of course they were a competent tuner).
Agreed. Most of us would rather just tune the kits where we think they sound the best, with the heads we think sound the best, with the mic mix that we think represents the real sound the best.
The way we are currently presenting the kits seems to offend the least amount of YouTube viewers, however. If we did more than one tuning with each kit, along with the 3 different mic presentations the videos would be way too long.
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Sound almost half a step lower to me.
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Old 02-10-2019, 03:20 PM
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Agreed. Most of us would rather just tune the kits where we think they sound the best, with the heads we think sound the best, with the mic mix that we think represents the real sound the best.
The way we are currently presenting the kits seems to offend the least amount of YouTube viewers, however. If we did more than one tuning with each kit, along with the 3 different mic presentations the videos would be way too long.
Far too difficult to compare. There's tons of that on YouTube already and no way to tell for example; the Broadkaster BD was such a monster or the Brooklyn FT lower with the same tuning. I actually thought you guys had screwed that one up! LOL! Since they are tuned exactly the same, with the same heads, mics etc., the differences, while sometimes subtle can be heard and understood. Great video.
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I liked the USA Customs and the Brooklyns the best.

Shane you rock. Thanks for doing all this.
Ditto on that! :)

Now, what I'd like to see is a shootout between the Brooklyns / USA Customs vs Ludwig Legacy Maple / Club Dates. Any chance of making THAT happen?
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They are all good, saying that if i'm to take a kit out with band it would be USA customs and Ludwig Legacy. Usually.
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This makes me want to buy a couple of Grestch kits; which sucks because I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. STOP TEMPTING ME ADAM. GOD.

But seriously, great videos. I'm looking forward to part 4!

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