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Old 02-06-2017, 07:04 PM
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Hi, new member here.

I am a guitar player but I have had a set of drums for the past 20 years. I have never been great at the drums (because I never practiced much) but I can keep a beat and play some simpler stuff.

2 weeks ago I saw in the local classifieds a set of DW Collector's Series drums for a really good price, so I bought them. The set is a 6-piece including the snare. I joined the forum looking to get into drumming and for getting advice. I don't see a lot about DW drums on here. I remember that a long time ago they seemed to be the coolest drums around but I was wondering if they are sort of passe now.

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Old 02-06-2017, 07:16 PM
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I would call them overpriced and underwhelming. Just my .02

You can get more for less nowadays, just look around at the shops or online.
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Old 02-06-2017, 07:24 PM
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Maybe in the 90's people thought they were the cool new thing to get, but today they are looked at as an American manufacturer, like Gretsch or Ludwig, who puts out an American made* product. They are nice kits and the amount of customizing you can do with them is pretty amazing, so there is that aspect they have over a company like Gretsch or Ludwig, but I dont think people look at them as the "cool" thing to buy. The hype isnt as great today as it was 20 years ago.

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Old 02-06-2017, 08:10 PM
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I have a few different kits but my DW Collectors are my favourite.

I love Gretsch as well- I don't know how much they will change now they are owned by DW.

I don't think 'American made' is so important these days- you can get some very nice, pro level kits from Asia.
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Of course. Beyond cool. Ice cold.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:28 PM
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If they are built with good materials, high accuracy, good quality control, and they sound good, they are cool. If your visual tastes lean away from round lugs etc., then you may feel that other makes look more cool.

I never seem to read on here that drummers need to re-sand bearing edges, or tighten up loose hardware on DW. They seem to be made with exceptional care and attention.

Personally, having played Hayman Drums during the 70s, which were not as great as people said at the time, I am a bit concerned about going back to round lugs, but then I also realize that is ridiculous and silly. I am strongly considering a new DW kit right now.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Since I got the new set (used) I have been playing more and more and the excitement of some new gear has definitely not worn off. I am going to get someone to come and tune them for me soon.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:32 PM
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All drums are cool. All drums just aren't cool to everyone. That's why there are a gazillion drum makers. Cadillacs used to be cool.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:37 PM
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Yes DW drums are still cool.

The way I really feel about it is drums aren't cool, people are cool.

Drum brands hijack too much of people's focus. It's a big detour from the main road.

The truth is, the brand of drums someone plays has zero to do with how good a drummer that person is. It's like the prevailing attitude is drum brand is far and away the #1 most important thing a drummer can do and the playing is way down the list. It's completely backwards.

You could play a Spongebob kit and kill if you are a good drummer.

My suggestion is don't waste mental energy on drum brands. These days you can get a great sounding kit with everything included for less than 2 large.

You said you bought the DW's. You are good to go. You have a world class drumset, period. Time for the next step, lessons. Investing in lessons, now there's an actual investment. Drums are a purchase.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:46 PM
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What Uncle Larry said is all true. You put the cart before the horse and I'm wondering if you are concerned about the drums or you being cool. DW's are great so drum on.
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:21 PM
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Ditto what Larry said. Everything you own is a tool to an end. What kind of pans do you have to cook?
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There was once a DW hype, just like there was an Ayotte hype. Then came the next hype and so on. But still, DW made and makes some really good drums. If they are overpriced is a completely different question and highly debatable. Some people will say yes, others will say no.

(PS: All drums that you get today are basically to cheap, but I get off-topic)

Enjoy your drums. You got some quality stuff there that should serve you well for decades.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:12 PM
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Ditto what Larry said. Everything you own is a tool to an end. What kind of pans do you have to cook?
Whoa, whoa, whoa! I'll have you all know that brand and material do matter. The answer? Cuisinart stainless steel. They rock! Also, it's a widely known fact that I'm a DW fanboy.I honestly believe there is no best or coolest brand. Too many great drums, from too many great drum companies. DW is still really cool though.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:32 PM
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I'd ask, which drums aren't cool?

Far less than the ones that are cool.

Besides, everything can be used for good or evil. (ever notice that evil is live, spelled backwards?)

It's all how something is used. Human beings breathe coolness, awkwardness etc. into the drums, not the other way around.

I'd say the only uncool drumset I ever saw was those horrid fishbowl looking drums that go by the name Molecule. Bo's secret desire.

OMG I think I just threw up in my mouth a little lol.

Molecule, The Edsel of drumsets.

That's their marketing slogan, for realz :P
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A lot of why DW used to be the cat's meow had to do with their hardware (industry leading quality for the most part), their craftsmanship (which raised the bar for many manufacturers), and their customizability (now matched by tonnes of 'boutique' custom brands). They also did a great job marketing their drums and attracting big names to play them.

These days, the things that made them stand out in the 90's and oughts have been matched by most serious companies. There's also been a kind of backlash against their perceived overhype and popularity.

By all means, if they make an awesome sound and make you feel good while playing, keep them and play them proudly. But as with guitars, buy drums that are worth the cost and the hype regardless of marque.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:49 PM
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All drums are cool. Including the sets Sears sold back in the 60's and 70's. Well....maybe that's a bit of a stretch.

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If you watch enough t.v. DW is all you see. My 6 piece has been stacked up in a corner. They are very good drums but they have a sound that is different then what I am used to and want to hear. I just can't get into them anymore. I used to always choose my old Starclassic maples over them. I've recently gone back to my childhood with a 4 piece Legacy for now.
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A lot of why DW used to be the cat's meow had to do with their hardware (industry leading quality for the most part), their craftsmanship (which raised the bar for many manufacturers), and their customizability (now matched by tonnes of 'boutique' custom brands).
Don't forget their transluscent laquer finishes with the complex figured wood underneath. Other companies didn't have that at the time (or so I'm told).
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DW is known in my head as a very modern sounding drum build that appeals to rockers for the "round" profile of the sound that sounds somewhat "dead" or already produced/mixed. Both a good and bad thing depending, but I don't think their reputation has been messed with or anything. You don't get made fun of like if you bought a mapex kit or something.
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:10 AM
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I was going to buy a pair of British Knights are they still cool??
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Old 02-07-2017, 12:17 AM
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You'll need to upgrade. Those aren't cool anymore.

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You'll need to upgrade. Those aren't cool anymore.


Come on man those shoes are in style!
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OMG I think I just threw up in my mouth a little lol.

Molecule, The Edsel of drumsets.

That's their marketing slogan, for realz :P
I'll have you know, back in the mid 80's, I used to play on a hockey team called the Edsels, and we were all quite fetching, if I say so myself.
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I'd say the only uncool drumset I ever saw was those horrid fishbowl looking drums that go by the name Molecule. Bo's secret desire.

OMG I think I just threw up in my mouth a little lol.

Molecule, The Edsel of drumsets.

That's their marketing slogan, for realz :P
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All drums are cool. Including the sets Sears sold back in the 60's and 70's. Well....maybe that's a bit of a stretch.

Yep. Nothing like exact tuning than a six lug bass drum...
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If you watch enough t.v. DW is all you see. My 6 piece has been stacked up in a corner. They are very good drums but they have a sound that is different then what I am used to and want to hear. I just can't get into them anymore. I used to always choose my old Starclassic maples over them. I've recently gone back to my childhood with a 4 piece Legacy for now.
Well, remember back in the 80s when Yamaha was all you saw? And just a little ahead of that was Tama, which really took off with Billy Cobham, and later Stewart Copeland. I suppose all the brands got their due. "Hip" is like a roving spotlight that's just roaming around. Every now and then it lingers in one place for a really long time.
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Here are the drums. Inside the shells it is stamped that they are from 2008. I do not know what type of wood they are made of, I will do some research. They are satin black and you can see the wood grain, which I think is cool. The hardware has the satin brushed look. They have been used and they have little scrapes and scratches on them but they still look great. They came with a DW stand that holds 2 toms, but I didn't like it and I bought the cymbal stand mounted tom holders. I only paid $1200 for them and they came with cases that fit all of the drums. I was really happy to get a snare drum with it because I really didn't want to dish out more cash for one.







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nice kit. Yep I would say most/ all drums are cool.... except roto toms maybe.
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I think you did well. DW are cool after all, you just said so. Clean them up real well and above all have fun. If you have already cleaned them, then skip that step and go straight to having fun.
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Those are really nice. If you got them used at a great price then the whole "overpriced DW" thing is irrelevant. You scored, congrats!
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DWs are very cool. And that's a great score, very nice set! Congrats!
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What about DDrums? Are they still cool?
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I dunno about those. I've seen some nice ones, and I've also seen some questionable ones. However, if Gadd was playing them and he sounded good, then they'd become really cool.
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They're pretty cool when Carmine Appice plays them :)

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Those DWs are totally lame and the hardware is all dulled out. I think I need to take them off your hands.... :)
The grain looks like trusty ol' maple to me. Nice find for sure.
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ddrum was never cool ... just my 2 cents.
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I had a Collectors in that finish but with black hardware - looked waaaaay cooler than yours :-)

Seriously though, lovely looking kit and yet, along with the creamy sustain of the rack toms, that is the only positive thing I can say about DW.

My issues were: Only seemed to work properly with stock heads and I spent a fortune trying to find ones that work, but also, lasted longer than 1 session without being pitted. Double ply heads just sounded like boxes on them. I tried birch and maple and neither had any decent attack or projection and again, couldn't find the right heads.

One should only get a DW if you're a soft hitter. That way they sound lovely but if you have any kind of rock in you, there are much better options available. After parting with thousands for a 5 piece, buyers remorse just takes over and you have to change them before you kill yourself for being such an idiot spending that much on something that was worse than the Pearl Masters you had previously.

Shame coz they sounded great in the shop.

I bought the kit because I had an awesome 14 x 5 maple snare that I bought first. I got the kit to match it but unfortunately it didn't. The snare had the black DW badge (when they used keller shells) and the kits had the new gold badge (which I believe indicated that they now used their own shells)
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Those drums a VERY cool! One cool aspect about the DW lug, love them or hate them is they work perfect with the mount they came up with.
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You have a set of maple drums there. My DW kit is from 2008 too. Same gold badge. The badge should say Collectors Series along the bottom, proving it's maple.

DW is many people's idea of the best drums on Earth. So now that's settled, and you have what you need, what's your next move?

I will say this about my DW's. They hold their tune perfectly. They lived in my van for 4 years, no cases. They have the lacquered exotic outer ply, they are not a wrapped kit. Summers get cook an egg hot in my van and winters are c-c-c-cold. I was really kind of amazed how well they hold their tune, considering the extremes in temperature they regularly endured. No problems, no checked lacquer, nothing. They resonate nicely, even with the overly heavy hardware DW uses. There's no negs playing DW's except from what you will hear from the DW haters.
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