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Old 02-22-2018, 01:54 PM
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Default The Sweetwater DW Purpleheart Drum Set seems really nice

I could see myself purchasing this shell pack. Outside of the tacky heart on the snare drum, the finish looks great.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DRKT85K300


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Purpleheart can be a great stick material. I don’t really prefer the sound of a purpleheart tom, but that’s up to your individual taste.
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It's almost $7,000. What would you or I do with a $7,000 kit?
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Is this a solid purple heart wood kit? Or is it just the outside veneer that's purple heart? I was just wondering what the sound characteristics are like for a wood like that. I think I can tell the difference between birch and maple, and maybe oak, or bubinga, but I've never heard purple heart. I assume it's a hard tone wood?
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I could see myself purchasing this shell pack. Outside of the tacky heart on the snare drum, the finish looks great.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DRKT85K300


https://youtu.be/dV21jyF-K60




From 5 feet away the cherrywood finish on an $650 SC kit looks better. How do they do that?


https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...xoCL8oQAvD_BwE
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From 5 feet away the cherrywood finish on an $650 SC kit looks better. How do they do that?


https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...xoCL8oQAvD_BwE
I wonder if it's a faux finish? Like on some lesser expensive expensive guitars that have exotic looking finishes because the finish is almost like a picture of a wood grain. (I'm not sure if describing it as a picture is right, but that's what comes to mind)
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Well, one is the natural color of the wood (DW Purpleheart) and the other is a sprayed on lacquer over a figure-less piece of birch. I don't think the SC's lacquer finish holds a candle to the looks of the Purpleheart with a clear coat over it, but to each their own.
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Well, one is the natural color of the wood (DW Purpleheart) and the other is a sprayed on lacquer over a figure-less piece of birch. I don't think the SC's lacquer finish holds a candle to the looks of the Purpleheart with a clear coat over it, but to each their own.


... and one could buy a lot of candles with the $6,000.00 saved.
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I'd have to see something like that in person before dropping that kind of dough. I'm sure the pics don't do it justice.

I'm know I'm just an armchair critic, but the lighting on that video could be better.

Here's a vid with a little better lighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XNkkEPpFPQ
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Is this a solid purple heart wood kit? Or is it just the outside veneer that's purple heart? I was just wondering what the sound characteristics are like for a wood like that. I think I can tell the difference between birch and maple, and maybe oak, or bubinga, but I've never heard purple heart. I assume it's a hard tone wood?
In a post long ago, our resident expert Andy described purpleheart as 'maple on steroids'. I think thats what he said. That description is easy to recall.
Personally i think its a silly name for a wood.
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In a post long ago, Andy described purple heart as 'maple on steroids'. I think thats what he said. That description is easy to recall.
Personally i think its a silly name for a wood.
I’m trying to envision “maple on steroids”. So it would be “maple Plus”?
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It's almost $7,000. What would you or I do with a $7,000 kit?
...............Play it?
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Well, one is the natural color of the wood (DW Purpleheart) and the other is a sprayed on lacquer over a figure-less piece of birch. I don't think the SC's lacquer finish holds a candle to the looks of the Purpleheart with a clear coat over it, but to each their own.
I agree. Not even close. I would not buy any drum set until I played one and seen in person. However, every picture I've seen of the purpleheart set looks really nice.
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... and one could buy a lot of candles with the $6,000.00 saved.
Well, you didn't mention anything about price, just looks. Yes the $6K saved goes a long way towards many, many things.
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I’m trying to envision “maple on steroids”. So it would be “maple Plus”?

He might mean weight wise too. If that kit is solid PH, it would be mucho heavier than Maple.

DW is all about the finish ply tho. Can't imagine its solid PH.
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It is 100% purple heart wood.

According to the wood database PH is 53 lbs/ft^3 and Rock Maple is 44lbs/ft^3. Janka hardness has the PH at 2520 vs Rock Maple's 1450.
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Yes....same thing I do with my $200 1966 Slingerland pawn shop find. Or my Gretsch Catalina kit. But I still have $6,500 left in my bank account and we're doing the same thing - playing drums. And I don't worry much about my drums. I'd worry at every gig about a $7,000 kit.

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It's almost $7,000. What would you or I do with a $7,000 kit?
Absolutely whatever he wants to do with it?
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I'll never understand the reason for such a high price. I see no diamonds, silver or gold unless that's gold plating on the hardware.

What could possibly be the diff between that set and a $2500 one? Is it just the exotic wood?

And if THAT'S it, that's NUTZ.
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I'll never understand the reason for such a high price. I see no diamonds, silver or gold unless that's gold plating on the hardware.

What could possibly be the diff between that set and a $2500 one? Is it just the exotic wood?

And if THAT'S it, that's NUTZ.
Here's a discussion on DFO about the difference between a $1300 kit an a $3500 one:
http://www.drumforum.org/index.php?/...nd-a-3500-kit/

For the DW, the pricing is relatively on par with their all maple kits with lacquer finishes. Considering that kit is a 7 piece, It averages out to about $1000/drum. Here's an all maple 4 piece kit in satin oil finish (less expensive than a lacquer finish) for ~$3600 ($900/drum):

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DRKT34C101

Or you could go with this 5 piece maple kit with Santos Rosewood veneer and lacquer finish for $7000 ($1400/drum):

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DREX522-HSSRN

Collectors kits are expensive drums. If you don't want to pay the price for them, they have the more affordable Performance series drums, or the even more affordable Design series, OR the even more affordable PDP Concept kits.
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About $1000/drum is how a Craviotto prices out, too.
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About $1000/drum is how a Craviotto prices out, too.
Huh?

$6,550 for a 4 piece ($1,638/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...h-cherry-inlay

$6,489 for a 4 piece ($1,622/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CDC424MBB

Here's a demo model for $5,840 ($1,460/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...re-maple-inlay
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Purple heart gets it's color from being exposed to sunlight. The longer the exposure the darker the color. The color you see is the actual wood and not a stain.

It has been used for stringed instruments for some time.

The DW kits are pure purple heart.
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Huh?

$6,550 for a 4 piece ($1,638/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...h-cherry-inlay

$6,489 for a 4 piece ($1,622/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CDC424MBB

Here's a demo model for $5,840 ($1,460/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...re-maple-inlay
Right, a simple 12/14/20 maple in natural oil with COB tube lugs used to hover just below $5k with a choice of bearing edges. Lacquer finishes were an up-charge from there, as were some of the other woods.

The Centerstage kits are/(were?) at a lower price point, with the savings coming from a hardware downgrade, center-lug configuration and being limited to select sizes of maple-only shells with 45 deg edges.
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I'll never understand the reason for such a high price. I see no diamonds, silver or gold unless that's gold plating on the hardware.

What could possibly be the diff between that set and a $2500 one? Is it just the exotic wood?

And if THAT'S it, that's NUTZ.
It's like anything else. A Toyota will get a great ride, however, their Lexus version of the same car has higher level of features (nicer leather, higher end stereo, suspension, etc). Same with Cell phones, Tv's, guitars and drums.
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Three piece Crav's are on Reverb from Maxwell's new for $3,600. $1,200 a drum sorry I was a bit off lol.

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Huh?

$6,550 for a 4 piece ($1,638/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...h-cherry-inlay

$6,489 for a 4 piece ($1,622/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CDC424MBB

Here's a demo model for $5,840 ($1,460/drum)
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...re-maple-inlay
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Here is one from CME:

https://reverb.com/item/787601-cravi...unted-cast-lug
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I'll send anybody here a $10 McDonalds coupon including OP if they show proof they bought that DW kit for $7grand. Nobody here is gonna buy that kit.

Plus like all other DW kits it is butt-ugly with those lugs they use. It is just not attractive.
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I'll send anybody here a $10 McDonalds coupon including OP if they show proof they bought that DW kit for $7grand. Nobody here is gonna buy that kit.

Plus like all other DW kits it is butt-ugly with those lugs they use. It is just not attractive.
I'm gonna guess that guys who spend that kinda money on drums may not eat at Mickey Ds.

I paid $5200.00 for one DW kit about ten years ago and love it to this day.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some like the lugs and some don't. I think they look great.

My Yamaha MCAN kit had a list price of 11K. Didn't pay any where near that and those are the most expensive drums I own. If you compare all the high end offerings from other companies DW isn't priced much differently.

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All real drummers eat at Mickey D's lol :)

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I'm gonna guess that guys who spend that kinda money on drums may not eat at Mickey Ds.

I paid $5200.00 for one DW kit about ten years ago and love it to this day.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some like the lugs and some don't. I think they look great.

My Yamaha MCAN kit had a list price of 11K. Didn't pay any where near that and those are the most expensive drums I own. If you compare all the high end offerings from other companies DW isn't priced much differently.

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I'll send anybody here a $10 McDonalds coupon including OP if they show proof they bought that DW kit for $7grand. Nobody here is gonna buy that kit.

Plus like all other DW kits it is butt-ugly with those lugs they use. It is just not attractive.
A McDonalds coupon! Wow, a big prize there. I simply don't understand your need to dump allover people's aesthetic choices in snares and drums lately. Is it not possible somebody likes something different than you, and to just leave it at that?
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I do not mind the turret lugs. When I had my DW, I thought it was a beautiful kit.



I have said it before and I'll say it again, stop worrying about the minutiae. No one in your audience cares what the lugs on your kit look like. No one cares what name is on the bass drum head. They care about how good YOU sound. If you sound like crap they wont blame the drums, or the lugs on them. They will blame you.
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If someone creates a thread and posts pics and basically wants to know what we think, then I am gonna give them honest feedback.

I'll change the prize to a $10 Pizza Hut gift card because I had pizza (Little Tony's carry out. The restaurant was on Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills) with Buddy Rich back in early 70's. Really. Great drummers like the same kinda food us mere mortals like lol.

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I'll send anybody here a $10 McDonalds coupon including OP if they show proof they bought that DW kit for $7grand. Nobody here is gonna buy that kit.

Plus like all other DW kits it is butt-ugly with those lugs they use. It is just not attractive.
If this is butt-ugly, may I suggest an eye examination?
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I do like how this kit looks. I am a sucker for any champagne sorta sparkle wraps and finishes. This one looks awesome IMHO.

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I have said it before and I'll say it again, stop worrying about the minutiae. No one in your audience cares what the lugs on your kit look like. No one cares what name is on the bass drum head. They care about how good YOU sound. If you sound like crap they wont blame the drums, or the lugs on them. They will blame you.
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If someone creates a thread and posts pics and basically wants to know what we think, then I am gonna give them honest feedback.

I'll change the prize to a $10 Pizza Hut gift card because I had pizza (Little Tony's carry out. The restaurant was on Ventura Blvd in Woodland Hills) with Buddy Rich back in early 70's. Really. Great drummers like the same kinda food us mere mortals like lol.
Actually, the kit seems reasonable considering its a collectors series and includes the snare. I have purchased tons of stuff from Sweetwater and they will wheel and deal a bit. I plan on visting their showroom in the near future since its only a couple hours away.
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If this is butt-ugly, may I suggest an eye examination?
Is that the natural jazz cherry kit ?

My all-time favourite from DW.

If not, it's pretty freakin'close !
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7k.. the re-sale in a year or 2 would be horrible.. i would find a nice used yammy kit. be happier and save 5k+
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7k.. the re-sale in a year or 2 would be horrible.. i would find a nice used yammy kit. be happier and save 5k+
Just like a car, if you are worried about resale...then buy used.
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I actually like the red sparkle Lacquer finish better




Here's a nice Ludwig demo set that looks fantastic. One can order add on toms if needed.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...SABEgIz3PD_BwE


Here's Ludwig Red Sparkle Display at one of the music trade shows.





I'm excited to start my search later this year ...so may options...of course sound is the key. One thing I will do however, no matter what brand, is use DW hardware. I just love the look and feel. Changing L-arms for a certain brand is quite simple. Yamaha's may be a bit challenging...but possible to purchase upper tom mounting arms

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