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Old 11-10-2016, 08:58 PM
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Hello! I am a drummer and a current student at University. I'm currently taking part in a business project as part of my final year and have designed a questionnaire that will help me with the research for it. The questionnaire is very short and asks some simple tick box questions about some demographic info and how you like to use a metronome when practicing or performing. The survey answers are very brief and are left anonymous. The use of this questionnaire will be purely for research purposes only. If anyone could be so kind as to fill it out it would mean a lot! Thank you very much!

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Done it. Best of luck with the rest of your course
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Filled it out, sounds more like a marketing questionnaire with the vibration device questions! BTW, there's already a wrist-worn device like that on the market now, and it's pretty unnatural to use.

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Done., good luck on your project.
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.......sounds more like a marketing questionnaire with the vibration device questions!........
The very second I came to the income question, I knew you were right!!


Nonetheless, questionnaire completed. Regardless of your true intentions.

I just wish you people would be a little more upfront and less prone to obvious bullshit.........a little less willing to treat us like morons, is all. It would enable me to take you far more seriously in the long run.
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I just wish you people would be a little more upfront
True, we seem to get pimped with survey questions that aren't very consistent with the school paper ruse. But in this case, the OP does state it's research for a "business project" that's part of his class. Hard to know if that's true or not, either.

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True, we seem to get pimped with survey questions that aren't very consistent with the school paper ruse. But in this case, the OP does state it's research for a "business project" that's part of his class. Hard to know if that's true or not, either.

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True, but as per usual, no response from the op. Also, this appears to be a questionnaire about the feasibility of a tactile metronome which, you and I can both agree, just doesn't feel right.
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Right. I'm going to fill out the survey with the opposing responses again...

It's a shame. Apparently it's for the University of Leeds. I know two of the music lecturers there (not involved with this, I'd think) and they are possibly the two most intelligent and interesting people I've had the pleasure to meet.
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True, but as per usual, no response from the op. Also, this appears to be a questionnaire about the feasibility of a tactile metronome which, you and I can both agree, just doesn't feel right.
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True, we seem to get pimped with survey questions that aren't very consistent with the school paper ruse. But in this case, the OP does state it's research for a "business project" that's part of his class. Hard to know if that's true or not, either.

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Hi guys just to make this a little clearer I am a student at the University of Leeds in my third year and this survey questionnaire is part of degree course. The business project contains no fowl play and it's purely about the experience of creating a business venture and a possible product in something you're interesting in (in my case drums, I love them! I'm a Music with Enterprise student) Thank you very much for filling out the questionnaire all the same!
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Right. I'm going to fill out the survey with the opposing responses again...

It's a shame. Apparently it's for the University of Leeds. I know two of the music lecturers there (not involved with this, I'd think) and they are possibly the two most intelligent and interesting people I've had the pleasure to meet.
Thank you for your time all the same :)
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The very second I came to the income question, I knew you were right!!


Nonetheless, questionnaire completed. Regardless of your true intentions.

I just wish you people would be a little more upfront and less prone to obvious bullshit.........a little less willing to treat us like morons, is all. It would enable me to take you far more seriously in the long run.
Thank you for your time all the same! Just to confirm I am a student at the University of Leeds studying Music with Enterprise taking part in a business venture. It is not 'real' (or at least I don't think my product will ever become a real thing) its part of the course and about the experience you go through and what it's like to create questionnaires such as this. Thank you very much for filling it out :)
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Thank you very much!
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Chris, thank you for responding beyond your initial post! I hope you'll continue to participate, and you'll find Drummerworld members are happy to offer helpful, real-world perspectives on pretty much any topic!

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I wish I could help but I've never used a metronome. Don't tell me-I know.
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Hi guys just to make this a little clearer I am a student at the University of Leeds in my third year and this survey questionnaire is part of degree course. The business project contains no fowl play and it's purely about the experience of creating a business venture and a possible product in something you're interesting in (in my case drums, I love them! I'm a Music with Enterprise student) Thank you very much for filling out the questionnaire all the same!
Thank you for replying. I will now put in something more useful to you. I appreciate that you've taken the time to explain what's going on.

A lot of the time on here we get hit-and-run posters putting up surveys, claiming they are students whereas actually they are businesses doing market research. If a business wants to use this forum, then they have to check with the moderators first. I have no issue with businesses using this forum, provided they're transparent about their intentions. Sadly most aren't.
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Finished.
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Never used a metropolitan gnome, but I have completed a survey. Good Luck!
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Hi,
I am doing some research in the form of a survey in order to ascertain the potential of an educational device that I am developing which could potentially help thousands of musicians. I hope that you can help.
This device (Accunome®) will measure and visually feedback a musician's timing whilst playing any instrument, thus helping musicians worldwide to accelerate the skill acquisition needed to play an instrument in time.
Patent pending and still at the prototype stage, I will hopefully be able to produce the device in this country soon.
There is nothing similar on the market that offers the versatility of this device, which feeds back a musicians timing in such a visual way, or that has the option of projecting a timing display onto a large screen.
Please let me know if you can help.
You can contact me at - petelindemerebass@hotamil.co.uk and I can send you the survey.
Or you can use this link - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1LYk...f_NOj8aRA/edit
Thanks again – Pete Lindemere Bmus PGCE
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Filled it out, sounds more like a marketing questionnaire with the vibration device questions! BTW, there's already a wrist-worn device like that on the market now, and it's pretty unnatural to use.

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My exact thoughts. I wish I had not filled it out now, the story seems like a scam.
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The Russian Dragon* did precisely that back in the '80s, and I believe the Beat Bug also monitors tempo. LiveBPM is available on Apple & Android devices, and it even graphs the tempo variations. It has become the preferred tempo monitor for most drummers, and is sufficiently cheap at US$3.99. Also, I can tell when I'm with the click, I don't think I'd benefit from the visual anxiety of the inevitable few milliseconds difference.

However, the Accunome would make a good app - at least its core elements - as a cost-effective alternative to LiveBPM. That is, only charge $1.99.

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My exact thoughts. I wish I had not filled it out now, the story seems like a scam.
Not a scam, just deceptive and harmless enough. I'd rather that someone simply say they're doing research to help design and market a product, as this latest person has done.

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Ya I wrote that before I read his clarification but it still bugs me a bit. It would be much better in my eyes had he offered a disclaimer that stated he has no personal interest in any product that offers features as described in his survey.
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The Russian Dragon* did precisely that back in the '80s

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So, I'm not the only one old enough to remember that device!

I have had the intention to write a faithful reproduction of the RD as an Android app. But I guess I'll never find the time...
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True, we seem to get pimped with survey questions that aren't very consistent with the school paper ruse.
The joke's on them, the questions are usually so poorly formulated they can't be getting much meaningful information from them. They should hire a consultant, at very least to help write their survey.
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Who said it was anything to do with birds? (Sorry, couldn't resist ;-) )
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The joke's on them, the questions are usually so poorly formulated they can't be getting much meaningful information from them. They should hire a consultant, at very least to help write their survey.
That's the worst part, they're not asking the right questions, and/or not supplying sufficient response choices. I don't recall being able to answer any of these 'university' surveys in a completely accurate way.

But it's not limited to smart students... I just filled-out an online survey for a major drum magazine and it was hopelessly shortsighted on the questions and available responses, especially considering it's aimed at pros. I let them know that I couldn't accurately answer at least two of the questions, because the options weren't comprehensive enough.

Example: Q: Do you use your own drums in the studio? A: 1) Always, 2) Sometimes 3) Never. Obviously, there are other possible answers, but the options weren't given. As someone who brings my own gear to the studio 95% of the time, neither always or sometimes are accurate responses. If almost always and rarely had also been options, I would have been able to answer.

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The Russian Dragon* did precisely that back in the '80s, and I believe the Beat Bug also monitors tempo. LiveBPM is available on Apple & Android devices, and it even graphs the tempo variations. It has become the preferred tempo monitor for most drummers, and is sufficiently cheap at US$3.99. Also, I can tell when I'm with the click, I don't think I'd benefit from the visual anxiety of the inevitable few milliseconds difference.

However, the Accunome would make a good app - at least its core elements - as a cost-effective alternative to LiveBPM. That is, only charge $1.99.

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- Thanks for some very useful feedback! - The idea is indeed to develop an app in parallel to the hardware, as not everyone will need USD connectivity, a tuner and a metronome combined - perhaps more useful to the bass, guitar, and electronic keyboard end of the market. However, the device will let you know if you are on, ahead, or behind the beat (as would the app) which a BPM detector will not do . I can't tell you exactly how this is done, as still in the prototype phase, but it will be more user friendly than observing numbers! - The immediate response to this device has not been that encouraging, as it is difficult to not give too much away, but I still think there will be a market for this device, albeit a small one! - Thanks again!
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Regardless of the integrity of his motives, I would like to congratulate the OP on a wonderful username.

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I can see the extra features here be somewhat useful in a teachng situation.

However,...


I must of a sort of old school as I really don't need much other than a click.

The fact that we now have apps that all have tap tempo, time signatures, optional accents as well as muting rhythm training functions is a great luxury.

To be honest, what I often would like is just simply better sounds.

The solution for other skills is ear training with aid of recording oneself. I certainly find it useful to provide more visual tools for students that really can't hear stuff too well yet, but at this level I dunno. Roland pads have training features like that. To me they're more annoying than anything.
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Q: Do you use your own drums in the studio? A: 1) Always, 2) Sometimes 3) Never.
I don't know what the hell info they get from an answer of "sometimes." Hilarious. I'm sure often the point is just to get some clicks and hope people click on the advertising.
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Regardless of the thread starter's intentions...

Whether it's on my person or close at hand, I'd like to be able to speak a tempo to a metronome and have it register immediately. I'd much prefer that to dialing in a tempo between songs and having your eyes down.
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I don't know what the hell info they get from an answer of "sometimes." Hilarious. I'm sure often the point is just to get some clicks and hope people click on the advertising.
There isn't any useful information from the 'sometimes' option, except when it's differentiated from other usage, such as almost always or rarely or almost never. This was for a major drum magazine, and the participants were hand-selected pros! Unfortunately, the info they get is only as useful as the possible answers they provided.

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That's a cheep shot.
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