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Old 04-16-2019, 11:16 PM
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Default How do I shorten a hi-hat rod?

The long hi-hat rod on my stand is too long, and the short one that comes with it is too short, so I need to cut the longer one down a few inches but I don't know how or what to use.

I'm assuming I should wrap the rod and put it in a vice, but I don't know if I should use a hacksaw or a pipe cutter or what to do in order to smooth out the tip once it's cut (I'm guessing a metal file).

Anybody have any experience with this?

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Old 04-16-2019, 11:26 PM
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Hacksaw-fine tooth blade (24tpi), nice easy strokes, some light filing when done.
You may want to put a very fine notch in it with a file where you want to make the cut to keep the saw from walking because of the chrome.

I recommend leaving it an inch longer than you think you want it the first time you cut it down. No big deal to take off another inch after you play it awhile, but it's a real biatch to reattach it....lol.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:30 PM
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There's two ways I've seen. First is to just cut the top off it as per the previous post. The second is to cut it from the bottom and then re-tap the thread. You obviously need a few extras like a tap and die set. And you need to know the existing thread count.
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Hacksaw-fine tooth blade (24tpi), nice easy strokes, some light filing when done.
You may want to put a very fine notch in it with a file where you want to make the cut to keep the saw from walking because of the chrome.

I recommend leaving it an inch longer than you think you want it the first time you cut it down. No big deal to take off another inch after you play it awhile, but it's a real biatch to reattach it....lol.
Agreed, I've done this many times. Just remember to use fine emery cloth to sand down the cut edge so it's now rounded like the original. Take your time making a straight cut and use a vice.
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:27 AM
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Hacksaw-fine tooth blade (24tpi), nice easy strokes, some light filing when done.
You may want to put a very fine notch in it with a file where you want to make the cut to keep the saw from walking because of the chrome.
Thanks. What should I use to make a notch? Will a corner of a file work?

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The second is to cut it from the bottom and then re-tap the thread. You obviously need a few extras like a tap and die set. And you need to know the existing thread count.
Neat. I thought of that, but had no idea it could be done. Do you know any metropolitan area businesses that do it?

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Just remember to use fine emery cloth to sand down the cut edge so it's now rounded like the original. Take your time making a straight cut and use a vice.
Yeah, I tried it once a couple of decades ago, but it didn't turn out all that well - I put a nice little lip on the top which I couldn't bother filing down. I'm planning on taking my time this time around and doing it carefully.

Thanks for the tip on the emery cloth.
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I did it with a pipe cutter.
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:55 AM
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Thanks. What should I use to make a notch? Will a corner of a file work?
Yes, don't really need to make a "notch", more like just a nick. Something for the saw to bite on.

You could also wrap it with masking tape, mark and cut it.
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In an older thread someone recommended taking it to a mechanic friend with a 6-pack. They can slice it and re-thread so that the rounded chrome end stays intact.

In the absence of such a friend, hacksaw and a file will do it. Measure twice and take you time.
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I lopped mine off with an extremely hefty set of vice grips and then filed the ragged top down smooth.
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You could also wrap it with masking tape, mark and cut it.
So the tape forms the notch for the blade, right? Cool.

Can I keep the tape on, if I file and sand down the edge of the rod once it's cut?

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In an older thread someone recommended taking it to a mechanic friend with a 6-pack. They can slice it and re-thread so that the rounded chrome end stays intact.
You're talking about a regular car mechanic, right? Man, I didn't know they could do that.

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Old 04-17-2019, 04:25 AM
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I did this to a kit that had two regular hi hat stands.
I just cut the rid with a hacksaw like everyone else says, this is the easiest most effective way with limited tools.

I had access to a lathe, so I was able to cut from the too end, and use the lathe to shape the cut end to something that didn't look like a prison shank, and I wouldn't get stabbed or scraped by accident .
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I had access to a lathe
Sounds ideal.

Short of that, do you think an orbital sander would work?
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Sounds ideal.

Short of that, do you think an orbital sander would work?
What I think...honestly...is that you are over-thinking this.

It is a steel rod. Whack it off with a hacksaw, knock off any sharp edges, and get back to playing drums.

Worst thing you could do is bend the rod or cut it too short. Avoid that and you are on your way...

Leave the lathes and the threading dies to the machinists. You are a drummer.

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What I think...honestly...is that you are over-thinking this.

It is a steel rod. Whack it off with a hacksaw, knock off any sharp edges, and get back to playing drums.

Worst thing you could do is bend the rod or cut it too short. Avoid that and you are on your way...

Leave the lathes and the threading dies to the machinists. You are a drummer.

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Yeah, but... but lathing is fun.

Honestly, thanks for the masking tape tip earlier. Very helpful.
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Old 04-18-2019, 06:47 AM
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Dremel is your best option. Just use this one around the house so it's stayed in good shape for the last 25+ years.

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