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Old 04-16-2019, 02:16 AM
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Default Making the Ludwig Universal playable at higher tensions

Hello. I have a 14x4 Ludwig Universal, Chrome over Brass. It has mostly original hardware. The strainer has been replaced by probably a late 20's or early 30's strainer.

Also, one of the lugs has been replaced. I still have the original lug, but the threads are ripped out on one side, presumably from high tuning.

I want to play this drum at higher tensions, like this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9da8_Tk4ZPU

Amazing playing by the way.

I'm afraid that if i tune this drum up, other lugs will start failing. I also don't know if the clips/ hoops, whatever else can take the tension without failure.


My plan was to swap out the hoops for standard triple flange hoops, and replace all the lugs, such that i can tune higher without fear of damaging the original lugs, seeing as one has already ripped out.

I do realize this is a lot of work, and more money than i want to spend, do you guys have any suggestions? So far i have only played this drum at relatively low tensions, for the fear of damaging either the lugs or the clips/hoop.


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Old 04-16-2019, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: Making the Ludwig Universal playable at higher tensions

I play a 1926 Ludwig Super. Basically it's the same shell design and hardware as yours. I use it all the time. I tune it high.
However mine has 10 lugs. It looks like yours has 6 lugs. So with 6 lugs, it puts more stress on each lug.

I think stiffer hoops will help. Like a 2.3mm hoop. Other than that, I'm not sure what to tell you.

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Old 04-16-2019, 04:10 AM
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My opinion is: Put stiffer hoops on it and tune it high and play it. Take the risk.
That is better than letting it sit there and collect dust.


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I would replace the rest of the lugs, save the old ones, and crank away.

If you're having issues with tuning, thicker rims will definitely help with that.
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Old 04-16-2019, 05:35 AM
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I would replace the rest of the lugs, save the old ones, and crank away.

If you're having issues with tuning, thicker rims will definitely help with that.
Yep. This is definitely the plan.
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