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Old 05-22-2012, 08:41 AM
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Hi guys and girls of DW forums,

I've got a few question regarding gigs (Not a question about nervousness)

1. How shall I transport my set to the location? Shall I dismantle everything? (I don't have any drum cases so the drums will most probably be sitting in the back seats. )

2. Do I really need a drum rug? My drum room is carpeted(The ones like in offices) that's why I never use a rug before. If I need one what size shall I need? Will a bed sheet do the job? heheh

3. Other bands are gonna use my drum set too, should I charge them? I know this sounds werid...but if I need to how much should I charge 'em?

That's all I got for now.

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Old 05-22-2012, 08:48 AM
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1) Transporting them in a car or van is the usual, I recommend you get cases for them ASAP.

2) You might not need to depending on the venue but it's a good idea to have one with you (it's a good idea to always have stuff you might need like tuning keys, extra heads, extra sticks).

3) It's not common to charge the other bands for using the drums, at least here. Usually an agreement will be made by all the drummers sharing the kit, in which they're told what equipment they should bring. Most of the time the bass drum and toms are provided, drummers bring their snare, pedal, cymbals and hardware.
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1. How shall I transport my set to the location? Shall I dismantle everything? (I don't have any drum cases so the drums will most probably be sitting in the back seats. )
I highly recommend you get bags if you're going to be gigging. Right now though, just break it down to where you can transport it easily; there are no rules for this. Just make sure everything's protected so that you don't scratch your drums, and also make sure that it's secured to the point that you won't get buried under a pile of drums and hardware if you get into an accident (or just have to brake hard).


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2. Do I really need a drum rug? My drum room is carpeted that's why I never use a rug before. If I need one what size shall I need? Will a bed sheet do the job? heheh
I always bring a rug. If you don't have one and the stage floor is slippery, you might end up having to chase your kick drum around the room as you're playing. The spikes on the kick drum help out a little bit, but it can still move. Also, the venue may have a nice floor which will be ruined by the spikes.


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3. Other bands are gonna use my drum set too, should I charge them? I know this sounds werid...but if I need to how much should I charge 'em?
That's up to you, but it's pretty uncommon to do so. However, you need to make sure they know that if something is broken, they're responsible for it. Whenever other drummers use my kit at gigs, I tell them they definitely can't use my sticks or cymbals, and that I'd prefer them to also bring their own snare, stool and pedal if they can.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:53 AM
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1) Transporting them in a car or van is the usual, I recommend you get cases for them ASAP.

2) You might not need to depending on the venue but it's a good idea to have one with you (it's a good idea to always have stuff you might need like tuning keys, extra heads, extra sticks).

3) It's not common to charge the other bands for using the drums, at least here. Usually an agreement will be made by all the drummers sharing the kit, in which they're told what equipment they should bring. Most of the time the bass drum and toms are provided, drummers bring their snare, pedal, cymbals and hardware.
Hey thanks for your quick reply ;)

1) What cases do you recommend? I need something light...

2) What kind of venue needs a rug and what kind doesn't?

3) I see, alright will try to make an agreement with the other drummers.
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Old 05-22-2012, 08:57 AM
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I highly recommend you get bags if you're going to be gigging. Right now though, just break it down to where you can transport it easily; there are no rules for this. Just make sure everything's protected so that you don't scratch your drums, and also make sure that it's secured to the point that you won't get buried under a pile of drums and hardware if you get into an accident (or just have to brake hard).



I always bring a rug. If you don't have one and the stage floor is slippery, you might end up having to chase your kick drum around the room as you're playing. The spikes on the kick drum help out a little bit, but it can still move. Also, the venue may have a nice floor which will be ruined by the spikes.



That's up to you, but it's pretty uncommon to do so. However, you need to make sure they know that if something is broken, they're responsible for it. Whenever other drummers use my kit at gigs, I tell them they definitely can't use my sticks or cymbals, and that I'd prefer them to also bring their own snare, stool and pedal if they can.
Hmm...I see.

I think I'd ask the other drummers to bring their cymbals(they can use mine but like you said "if something is broken, they're responsible for it"), sticks,pedal and maybe throne and one of them to bring a drum rug as I don't have one. What do you recon?
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Any thick rug will do- best way to go inmy opinion would be a rubber backed door mat that is at least big enough to be under your throne, the kick, hi hat base and ride stand base. Your weight sitting on the seat will keep the rug in place and whole kit from sliding all over..

Get some soft cases (they are cheap and very light).

Sounds like this is your first gig?

I would practice setting your kit up if your are going to have to do it quickly by yourself. Also, think about what you are taking- might want to evaluate what you want to have there and who might be playing it before taking all of your best stuff. Some gig environments and players are very rough. Not sure where you are headed but you seem too nice to let go without a little warning. Sorry if this is all unneccessary.
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1) What cases do you recommend? I need something light...

2) What kind of venue needs a rug and what kind doesn't?

3) I see, alright will try to make an agreement with the other drummers.
1) Any soft cases will do. Don't worry about getting branded ones, as a bog standard case will suffice for reasonably regular gigging. As long as it's a little padded and you're not juggling the drums on the way in to the venue you'll be fine. Get a decent sized duffle bag for the small/medium hardware pieces - when giging more regularly in the future worry about getting a larger hardware bag for cymbal stands etc too.

2) Assume that EVERY venue needs a rug. I take my Pro Rocket mat with me to every gig, and leave it in the car if it's not needed. I got a PR mat as the bit of carpet I used to use didn't have a rubber backing (and I couldn't find a suitably sized mat with a rubber back otherwise, so I went PR despite the price) and I had a rather embarrassing gig 2 months ago where the mat kept moving around on a particularly slippery stage.

I've played a few gigs where the stage is carpetted since I got it, but I was glad I had the mat in the car in case they weren't. Seriously - never leave home without the mat.

3) With gigs where you're supplying the kit always be the one to make the effort to communicate - it's your gear that's on the line. Don't assume the other drummers will bother to get hold of you. At the very same gig mentioned above the drummer who came in the support act only brought his sticks and snare. I would have sorted something before hand but the bar manager hadn't told us there'd be a support act. Needless to say - I sent him home to get his cymbals.

If you're dealing with a drummer who hasn't got cymbals for some reason and isn't able to source any for the gig - make it VERY clear that you'll inspect the cymbals with him/her before hand (so it's up front about pre-existing condition) and afterward with them too. Any new signs of wear or damage will be chargable to that individual - this should be agreed before hand. If you see them thrashing your stuff in their set don't be afraid to let them know to chill and stop laying in to it - even if you have to jump on stage and tell them during the show. It's your expensive gear, after all.

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Old 05-22-2012, 04:07 PM
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I don't know where you live, but I bought a set of Alligator soft drum bags on sale for only $99 and they have worked fantastic for many years. I actually prefer them over hard cases, but then again I don't go on tour either and only gig once a month or so.

I always bring my rubber backed area rug with me. Last year I bought one that matched the color of my kit. I think it was only $30 or so.

I've never had other bands use my drums at gigs, so I don't know what the protocol is there. I've had other drummers sit in for me for a few songs at gigs, but that's about it.
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:39 PM
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I have seen soft cases at JS Music on Jalan Imbi in KL.

If you only gig once in a while a bit of care and a couple of blankets will do.

A rug is essential as many floors is tiled here in Malaysia.
Alternatively you can connect your drum stool and bass drum with a piece of string. This methode has the disadvantage that the distance between your stool and bass drum is fixed. Sometimes its nice to be able to adjust a bit.


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Old 05-22-2012, 05:52 PM
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dont sweat it. bring a blanket & wrap up the toms. put the BD in the backseat. pile hardware in trunk. get cases as soon as you can. just got 5 more Drumseeker (Humes & Berg) cases for my Yamaha kit. great stuff.

i use home depot rugs - every 3-5 years & get a 6 x 6 swath of their black (cheap) carpet. it looks like car rug. they get ruined from spills or rain (had to leave on in the dumpster one gig when the show was cancelled 1/2 way thru from monsoon rain) & i just buy new ones.
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Forget the sheet, it would be worse than useless. Get a rug big enough so your bass drum and throne are on it. Bare minimum. Bigger is better. 5 feet x 6 feet is the largest you should need. Cases are not necessary at this stage in the game, you could skip them for this gig, unless you have the cash, then yea why not?. ALWAYS carry a rug to a gig, a spare pedal, spare snare, place extra sticks where you can grab them in case you drop them while playing. Don't forget a drum key, duct tape, and always remember to BRING A SPARE KICK DRUM HEAD! If that breaks you're hosed.

In the US I've never seen drummers having to pay to share a kit. Don't know the protocol in Malaysia.
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:23 PM
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Forget the sheet, it would be worse than useless. Get a rug big enough so your bass drum and throne are on it. Bare minimum. Bigger is better. 5 feet x 6 feet is the largest you should need. Cases are not necessary at this stage in the game, you could skip them for this gig, unless you have the cash, then yea why not?. ALWAYS carry a rug to a gig, a spare pedal, spare snare, place extra sticks where you can grab them in case you drop them while playing. Don't forget a drum key, duct tape, and always remember to BRING A SPARE KICK DRUM HEAD! If that breaks you're hosed.

In the US I've never seen drummers having to pay to share a kit. Don't know the protocol in Malaysia.

all great advice Larry as always

your post got me thinking and I just realized that in nearly 25 years of gigging I have never broken a drum head on my own kit while playing live.......not that I can recall anyway

only time I can recall was on the house kit at the Continental in NYC where the rack tom head was already slightly split so I purposely helped finish the job

other than that ...never....Im actually kind of surprised myself sitting here thinking about it

Ive broken many sticks and even cymbals....but never a head

plenty broken heads practicing....either alone or with a band.....but never in front of an audience

...anyway back to the topic....

a gig rug for sure ....nothing worse than a traveling kick drum ...be sure its big enough for the kick your throne and the hat stand...because if your weight from sitting on the throne is not on the rug it will still travel
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I always bring a little flash light and a sharpie, some gaff tape, cymbal felts because when you drop them in the dark they are gone.....
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Agree with what everyone on here has said, but wanted to point out that when you start gigging and/or moving your kit around more, a rug that has markings saves you a ton of time setting up... If you have everything set up on your rug at your practice space and everything is in perfect position, just go around your kit and put tape makers on your rug... If you have memory locks on all your stands etc, just lay the rug down at any venue and place everything on the tape markers... i take my rug everywhere I go and use it even if there is already a rug there... Saves a lot of time on setup!
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If you can, get a flying carpet. Saves gas and tolls.
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On my rug I used a "paint sharpie" (it's like a magic marker but has paint in it) to outline
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Any thick rug will do- best way to go inmy opinion would be a rubber backed door mat that is at least big enough to be under your throne, the kick, hi hat base and ride stand base. Your weight sitting on the seat will keep the rug in place and whole kit from sliding all over..

Get some soft cases (they are cheap and very light).

Sounds like this is your first gig?

I would practice setting your kit up if your are going to have to do it quickly by yourself. Also, think about what you are taking- might want to evaluate what you want to have there and who might be playing it before taking all of your best stuff. Some gig environments and players are very rough. Not sure where you are headed but you seem too nice to let go without a little warning. Sorry if this is all unneccessary.
I see, Setting up my kit should be no prob...but fine tuning it maybe a problem...

Most of the drummers that is gonna use my kit are my friends so I doubt they would be that rough...lol
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1) Any soft cases will do. Don't worry about getting branded ones, as a bog standard case will suffice for reasonably regular gigging. As long as it's a little padded and you're not juggling the drums on the way in to the venue you'll be fine. Get a decent sized duffle bag for the small/medium hardware pieces - when giging more regularly in the future worry about getting a larger hardware bag for cymbal stands etc too.

2) Assume that EVERY venue needs a rug. I take my Pro Rocket mat with me to every gig, and leave it in the car if it's not needed. I got a PR mat as the bit of carpet I used to use didn't have a rubber backing (and I couldn't find a suitably sized mat with a rubber back otherwise, so I went PR despite the price) and I had a rather embarrassing gig 2 months ago where the mat kept moving around on a particularly slippery stage.

I've played a few gigs where the stage is carpetted since I got it, but I was glad I had the mat in the car in case they weren't. Seriously - never leave home without the mat.

3) With gigs where you're supplying the kit always be the one to make the effort to communicate - it's your gear that's on the line. Don't assume the other drummers will bother to get hold of you. At the very same gig mentioned above the drummer who came in the support act only brought his sticks and snare. I would have sorted something before hand but the bar manager hadn't told us there'd be a support act. Needless to say - I sent him home to get his cymbals.

If you're dealing with a drummer who hasn't got cymbals for some reason and isn't able to source any for the gig - make it VERY clear that you'll inspect the cymbals with him/her before hand (so it's up front about pre-existing condition) and afterward with them too. Any new signs of wear or damage will be chargable to that individual - this should be agreed before hand. If you see them thrashing your stuff in their set don't be afraid to let them know to chill and stop laying in to it - even if you have to jump on stage and tell them during the show. It's your expensive gear, after all.

Just my 2 cents.
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I don't know where you live, but I bought a set of Alligator soft drum bags on sale for only $99 and they have worked fantastic for many years. I actually prefer them over hard cases, but then again I don't go on tour either and only gig once a month or so.

I always bring my rubber backed area rug with me. Last year I bought one that matched the color of my kit. I think it was only $30 or so.

I've never had other bands use my drums at gigs, so I don't know what the protocol is there. I've had other drummers sit in for me for a few songs at gigs, but that's about it.
Hmm I see. Yeah I'd be getting soft cases as I heard hard ones are heavy and bulky.
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:36 AM
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I have seen soft cases at JS Music on Jalan Imbi in KL.

If you only gig once in a while a bit of care and a couple of blankets will do.

A rug is essential as many floors is tiled here in Malaysia.
Alternatively you can connect your drum stool and bass drum with a piece of string. This methode has the disadvantage that the distance between your stool and bass drum is fixed. Sometimes its nice to be able to adjust a bit.


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I guess you're a Malaysian too? Cool. Yea will be doing a bit of shoping this week, thanks for the reply.

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Forget the sheet, it would be worse than useless. Get a rug big enough so your bass drum and throne are on it. Bare minimum. Bigger is better. 5 feet x 6 feet is the largest you should need. Cases are not necessary at this stage in the game, you could skip them for this gig, unless you have the cash, then yea why not?. ALWAYS carry a rug to a gig, a spare pedal, spare snare, place extra sticks where you can grab them in case you drop them while playing. Don't forget a drum key, duct tape, and always remember to BRING A SPARE KICK DRUM HEAD! If that breaks you're hosed.

In the US I've never seen drummers having to pay to share a kit. Don't know the protocol in Malaysia.
5by 6 you say? Okay. Wow that seems a lot of spares I need. Will add spare pedal and spare kick drum head to my shopping list. Thanks for the advice.
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Hey I am a Dane, but I work in Batu Gajah and have been in Malaysia the last 14 years.

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I also have never broken a head in my career. Now I'm probably jinxed! LOL
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all great advice Larry as always

your post got me thinking and I just realized that in nearly 25 years of gigging I have never broken a drum head on my own kit while playing live.......not that I can recall anyway

only time I can recall was on the house kit at the Continental in NYC where the rack tom head was already slightly split so I purposely helped finish the job

other than that ...never....Im actually kind of surprised myself sitting here thinking about it

Ive broken many sticks and even cymbals....but never a head

plenty broken heads practicing....either alone or with a band.....but never in front of an audience

...anyway back to the topic....

a gig rug for sure ....nothing worse than a traveling kick drum ...be sure its big enough for the kick your throne and the hat stand...because if your weight from sitting on the throne is not on the rug it will still travel
a drum key
I always bring a little flash light and a sharpie, some gaff tape, cymbal felts because when you drop them in the dark they are gone.....
I always bring a towel and extra bottles of water
Towel and gaff tape? O.o What's the tape used for?
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Agree with what everyone on here has said, but wanted to point out that when you start gigging and/or moving your kit around more, a rug that has markings saves you a ton of time setting up... If you have everything set up on your rug at your practice space and everything is in perfect position, just go around your kit and put tape makers on your rug... If you have memory locks on all your stands etc, just lay the rug down at any venue and place everything on the tape markers... i take my rug everywhere I go and use it even if there is already a rug there... Saves a lot of time on setup!
Ah I see so that's why someone mention the gaff tape. I see, thanks!

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Paint sharpie? Hmm gonna look out for that. Thank you for pointing out!
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Towel and gaff tape? O.o What's the tape used for?
towel to wipe my face between songs ..... lights are hot and drumming often makes us sweat

tape for.....well you never know....I always seem to need it or get asked by someone else if I have any
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My approach to these questions is:

Either use cases, or tear them down to the very minimum required to get them in the car and carry them around. I use tufflite boxes for gigs where I need to carry them a long ways in, up stairs, etc. My favorite gigs are where I take the cymbals off, stand everything up in my minivan ready to play, and unload to a nearby stage. I went years without cases, but you will need a case for cymbals and hardware. Golf bags on wheels work great for stands.

You need to bring a rug, always. Sometimes it will stay in the car, but you don't want to be the drummer that scratched up a wood or tile floor. The entrance way type of rugs work well, and are reasonable at hardware stores. Mearure your kit when it's set up, your throne doesn't have to be on it but it helps prevent creeping.

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I have a small kit and it takes me 2 trips to get everything into where we are playing and 2
to get it all back to the vehicle. I always take my cymbal bag in last and take it to my vehicle
first when the gig is over (never leaving the cymbals out of my site). They are the
high value items in my kit that could be easily stolen.

In the 1960's I was sharing a stage with 2 other drummers who used my kit and cymbals.
When one band was finished playing the drummer removed my ride cymbal and made for
the exit door with it. There were about 2,000 in the audience but I had been watching him the
whole time and was right on top of him and got the cymbal back. It's rare but you never know.

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Hi Baby B. What's the name of your band ?? just curious
It's a weird one...it's called Cover Fiasco. (We lots of covers)

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towel to wipe my face between songs ..... lights are hot and drumming often makes us sweat

tape for.....well you never know....I always seem to need it or get asked by someone else if I have any
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My approach to these questions is:

Either use cases, or tear them down to the very minimum required to get them in the car and carry them around. I use tufflite boxes for gigs where I need to carry them a long ways in, up stairs, etc. My favorite gigs are where I take the cymbals off, stand everything up in my minivan ready to play, and unload to a nearby stage. I went years without cases, but you will need a case for cymbals and hardware. Golf bags on wheels work great for stands.

You need to bring a rug, always. Sometimes it will stay in the car, but you don't want to be the drummer that scratched up a wood or tile floor. The entrance way type of rugs work well, and are reasonable at hardware stores. Mearure your kit when it's set up, your throne doesn't have to be on it but it helps prevent creeping.

Never let people borrow your cymbals. Be very clear to the other players about this.
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I have a small kit and it takes me 2 trips to get everything into where we are playing and 2
to get it all back to the vehicle. I always take my cymbal bag in last and take it to my vehicle
first when the gig is over (never leaving the cymbals out of my site). They are the
high value items in my kit that could be easily stolen.

In the 1960's I was sharing a stage with 2 other drummers who used my kit and cymbals.
When one band was finished playing the drummer removed my ride cymbal and made for
the exit door with it. There were about 2,000 in the audience but I had been watching him the
whole time and was right on top of him and got the cymbal back. It's rare but you never know.
Alright, got it...cymbals are top priority...
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Even though you may know these other drummers as "friends",treat them as aquaintences,and you'll keep your gear longer.Everybody has a different standard on how we treat our own instrument,let alone how we treat someone elses.

That being said,have all the other drummers bring their own sticks,cymbals,pedal,and snare drum.This way if one of those items breaks,the show can still go on,and everybody can still stay "friends"..

I have found over the years,that out of all the musicians I know,that I would only let a handful,either use or borrow my gear.Its a rule that served me well,and has helped me avoid the usual horror stories that come with being too nieve and generous with my drums.

Good luck,and don't forget the rug,and remember Murphys Law(what can go wrong,will go wrong,at the worst possible time.):)

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Even though you may know these other drummers as "friends",treat them as aquaintences,and you'll keep your gear longer.Everybody has a different standard on how we treat our own instrument,let alone how we treat someone elses.

That being said,have all the other drummers bring their own sticks,cymbals,pedal,and snare drum.This way if one of those items breaks,the show can still go on,and everybody can still stay "friends"..

I have found over the years,that out of all the musicians I know,that I would only let a handful,either use or borrow my gear.Its a rule that served me well,and has helped me avoid the usual horror stories that come with being too nieve and generous with my drums.

Good luck,and don't forget the rug,and remember Murphys Law(what can go wrong,will go wrong,at the worst possible time.):)

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Okay will take note, Thanks.
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Kinda late to the party but I'll throw in my two cents worth...

1. How shall I transport my set to the location? Shall I dismantle everything? (I don't have any drum cases so the drums will most probably be sitting in the back seats. )

I don't use cases. I lay all my hardware on the floor behind the seats. On the backseat goes the floor tom laying on the side, then snare in the middle, 13" tom goes next to snare. In the back (or trunk) goes the seat, cymbal bag, pedal and stick bag. I put the bass drum in the front seat and strap it in with the seat belt so that it doesn't move around and scratch the dash and glove compartment door.

2. Do I really need a drum rug? My drum room is carpeted(The ones like in offices) that's why I never use a rug before. If I need one what size shall I need? Will a bed sheet do the job? heheh

You do need a rug. I always have to borrow one. Last time was great. It was probably 4'x6' and very lightweight. Probably made of nylon or something.

3. Other bands are gonna use my drum set too, should I charge them? I know this sounds werid...but if I need to how much should I charge 'em?

Some drummers tend to be pretty anal about their equipment. experienced players you don't have to worry so much about. Several drummers play the set at our studio and they are good Paiste Signature cymbals. They are still doing fine and nobody worries too much because there always is this understanding that we all have that you gotta replace what you cracked or broke. The Pedal is DW9000, as is the HH stand. It's great stuff...never breaks hardly ever. It's that cheapo equipment that you have to worry about. I mean, I don't know what your playing, but I'm just saying, you know?
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Kinda late to the party but I'll throw in my two cents worth...

1. How shall I transport my set to the location? Shall I dismantle everything? (I don't have any drum cases so the drums will most probably be sitting in the back seats. )

I don't use cases. I lay all my hardware on the floor behind the seats. On the backseat goes the floor tom laying on the side, then snare in the middle, 13" tom goes next to snare. In the back (or trunk) goes the seat, cymbal bag, pedal and stick bag. I put the bass drum in the front seat and strap it in with the seat belt so that it doesn't move around and scratch the dash and glove compartment door.

2. Do I really need a drum rug? My drum room is carpeted(The ones like in offices) that's why I never use a rug before. If I need one what size shall I need? Will a bed sheet do the job? heheh

You do need a rug. I always have to borrow one. Last time was great. It was probably 4'x6' and very lightweight. Probably made of nylon or something.

3. Other bands are gonna use my drum set too, should I charge them? I know this sounds werid...but if I need to how much should I charge 'em?

Some drummers tend to be pretty anal about their equipment. experienced players you don't have to worry so much about. Several drummers play the set at our studio and they are good Paiste Signature cymbals. They are still doing fine and nobody worries too much because there always is this understanding that we all have that you gotta replace what you cracked or broke. The Pedal is DW9000, as is the HH stand. It's great stuff...never breaks hardly ever. It's that cheapo equipment that you have to worry about. I mean, I don't know what your playing, but I'm just saying, you know?
Thanks for the advice :)
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