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Old 03-14-2018, 11:45 PM
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Default How do I approach this? (Advanced)

I hope I am not wrong in saying it is an Advanced tune - I think it is. I am not advanced but I try hard, and I hope so far my ability has demonstrated I can learn a tune and apply myself to make it work.

I have this tune, posted below ( band version ) that I am keen to work on for some time, and hopefully cover before the years out.

I think though, l it will take some time. It's the gaps and odd fills that I fear the most. I can make it work, and I can do the time, but there is a drum piece right at the end of the track where the drummer clearly is in a world of their own and applying ( to me ) some serious odd time / rendition. It's nuts.

I am wondering how best to approach it or if any of you have before e.t.c. I think this could be the biggest task I have set myself.

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Gary's blasing singles are advanced for sure, but the song works quite well without them.

Learn the structure and accents and just slowly build on it.
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Old 03-15-2018, 02:46 PM
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This advice may be simple and obvious, but it's all I've got.

Download Audacity, download the song as an MP3, then use Audacity to slow the song down. Break the song down into smaller chunks and learn it chunk by chunk.
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Old 03-15-2018, 04:21 PM
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Although it sounds "crazy", there aren't any odd times. The devices being used are called syncopation, and, if you really want to get technical, hemiola. But the song, and the drumming, absolutely remains in 4/4 the entire time.

Setting aside the hand speed for a moment, you'll need to learn how to accent in groups of 3/16 while playing in 4/4. For example, while playing 16ths, accent every three notes, until beat 4 (use a RLRL sticking):

|: 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a :|

Get very comfortable with it. Use the above exercise as a fill with beats you can already play, and also practice it on a pad with a metronome. Then, do the same thing with these exercises:

|: 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a :|

|: 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a :|

Now let's expand the idea to two measures.

|: 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a | 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a :|

|: 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a | 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a :|

|: 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a | 1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 e & a :|

In a way, you're playing two time signatures at once, until you resolve them at the end of each exercise. As the drummer, you need to be aware of BOTH rhythms, otherwise you'll get lost when trying to play the fills in that song.

I hope this helps. If you want more help, or lessons, or transcriptions, PM me!
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Look for an app called “Anytime” and install that. It lets you load any song in your library of songs and slow them down to better listen.
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Old 03-16-2018, 03:45 PM
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Some real interesting stuff here, thanks a lot. Best start practicing!
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..I hope I am not wrong in saying it is an Advanced tune - I think it is. I am not advanced but I try hard..

Personally i am not seeing a lot of use in spending lots and lots of time to try to learn just one song, because you are right that this is a pretty advanced song..And i kinda disagree with some other opinions that this song would also work if you would leave out all of the dynamics/ghostnotes/fills, etc and just would play some basic accents every now and then..

I think would be more wise to go study the sort of patterns (from a basic level untill ending with an advanced level..) that are used in this song..

That way you really learn something and if you practice in a right way you will be ending up knowing how to play this song anyway..
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..I hope I am not wrong in saying it is an Advanced tune - I think it is. I am not advanced but I try hard..
Personally i am not seeing a lot of use in spending lots and lots of time to try to learn just one song, because you are right that this is a pretty advanced song..And i kinda disagree with some other opinions that this song would also work if you would leave out all of the dynamics/ghostnotes/fills, etc and just would play some basic accents every now and then..

I think would be more wise to go study the sort of patterns (from a basic level untill ending with an advanced level..) that are used in songs like this..

That way you really learn something and if you practice in a right way you will be ending up knowing how to play this song anyway..
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