beyondbetrayal
Platinum Member
Oh please. Like most of the drummers here aren't guilty of recording to a click and re-doing every section till perfect and then still applying heavy post.
As much as some of us wish music was still more "real" that's not what gets pushed by the industry. Luckily, it's pretty much a dying industry, partially for these reasons.
My first band I recorded 2 albums live off the floor and they sounded pretty decent actually. Plenty of energy and a very raw real sound. They were not in perfect time, had a few mistakes, and sounded the exact same as our jams and live shows.
Fast forward to my metal bands these days. I always record to a click, but the first album due to our experience we didn't want to edit. So I did a one take of every song. It took me several takes of each song playing front to back but it worked out. It was tough doing 2 full days of blasts and double kick though of every song front to back over and over and not punching in.
By learning this way I still do minimal punch ins, I may do a few but I usually make sure I have gone a minute or 2 without an error or I will just redo the take. I do know of other very good drummers who punch in every section of a song which blows my mind. If it has to be that perfect, and then triggered, you might as well just program them.
I'm fine with post processing (eq, gates,compression) to make things sound big and awesome. Even a partial sample with a kick drum or moving 1 or 2 hits that were off time.... Quantizing an entire album and sampling everything is a different story. I want it to sound like me playing still.
Also, I have seen far too many times at a gig a band I am excited for after hearing their album and they start and it sounds like they just learnt the songs that sounded amazing on the disk. With anything I record there are no surprises when you come watch us play or jam.
I'll add in about 90% of the YouTube drummers with camera angles that change every bar and few seconds. There is a reason for that too.. I always love a drummer that has one angle up the whole time. Heck put a stopwatch beside you too... We are all human, lets hear you play like a human and not a machine.