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Where are you located? We have plenty of Evans blue hydraulics in stock ready to ship. Let us know your retailer name and we will contact them. Thanks, Rick

As is shown in my info, I am in Norman, OK. When I was in the market, no one in Norman or even the entire OKC area stocked Evans blue hydraulics. They could all order them. I wound up finding them on line from a tip from one of the drum web sites I am on. I have purchased what I need. But I have three questions:

1: Last year at Tulsa's The Big Beat - Drum Day, where I had my first Zickos set, I met a rep from Evans who told me after I showed him my kit (as I suspected) that Evans made the original blue hydraulic heads for Zickos with the Zickos logo on them. Is this true?

2:The original heads had plastic counter hoops and I had one separate rendering it useless. I replaced it with an Evans and all was well. My second set that that I pieced together didn't have blue heads and I put new Evans heads on it. At first they sounded very dull and lifeless to the extent that I almost replaced them, but over time they have come alive and are giving me the sound I like. Do you have any explanation for this?

3: My favorite sticks are Regal 5-B Maple and I have not found any other manufacturer that makes a comparable stick. I understand that Regal is discontinuing this model. I even went out and bought 9 pair so I would have them for a while. I don't go through sticks very often, so they should last me a while.. Any chance Pro Mark might pick it up in the future?
 
Another vote here for the EC1
I bought the last EC1 Coated heads that my local shop had.
I was told that they were discontinued.
I hope that they return with a great version of these heads.

The EC1 Coated heads have this wonderful, warm, mellow, sustained tone that lingers in my head long after the head was struck.
I love them!
I did find that I had to fuss with the tuning until I understood these heads.
They are not good heads for a novice at tuning drums.
 
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Rick in another thread I posed the question why is your hazy 300 clear? Bob said to ask you. And also, what are the sonic characteristics of the glass 500? In what ways do they change the tone? Aren't you glad you decided to come here?
 
Back to a possible new stick designation system you promised you would spearhead lol....printing the diameter in mm and the length in mm and N for nylon tip (or not) on the butt of the stick instead of the side of the stick would be great. The ink wears off and I can't make out the 5A or 5B. That's probably too expensive to do though. I'd like it printed or laser burnt on the butt of the stick because they would be easier to read in my stick bag. But a laser burnt designation/logo (if that's possible) on the side would be superior to ink because the ink wears off with my disgusting finger acids. I know that it's not a major issue but since I have your ear...can't hurt to mention

Rick, if I was on your development team, (and I am available for hire, just say the word) the first project I would do (for $100,000 a year w/ full benefits, company car, and drumheads for life) is to make a complete line of white film drumheads. Crazy aggressive marketing, for a line no one else has. Sales would double at least because white film sounds great. Everyone would have to try every model, think of it. I want them myself.

I am listening and am working on the smooth white coated head. Stay tuned....Pun intended.......Rick
 
Back to a possible new stick designation system you promised you would spearhead lol....printing the diameter in mm and the length in mm and N for nylon tip (or not) on the butt of the stick instead of the side of the stick would be great. The ink wears off and I can't make out the 5A or 5B. That's probably too expensive to do though. I'd like it printed or laser burnt on the butt of the stick because they would be easier to read in my stick bag. But a laser burnt designation/logo (if that's possible) on the side would be superior to ink because the ink wears off with my disgusting finger acids. I know that it's not a major issue but since I have your ear...can't hurt to mention

Rick, if I was on your development team, (and I am available for hire, just say the word) the first project I would do (for $100,000 a year w/ full benefits, company car, and drumheads for life) is to make a complete line of white film drumheads. Crazy aggressive marketing, for a line no one else has. Sales would double at least because white film sounds great. Everyone would have to try every model, think of it. I want them myself.

I got my new snare head today! It looks and sounds amazing. Thanks again!

Excellent and thanks...Rick
 
I bought the last EC1 Coated heads that my local shop had.
I was told that they were discontinued.
I hope that they return with a great version of these heads.

The EC1 Coated heads have this wonderful, warm, mellow, sustained tone that lingers in my head long after the head was struck.
I love them!
I did find that I had to fuss with the tuning until I understood these heads.
They are not good heads for a novice at tuning drums.

I am talking to our team about reintroducing that head....Thanks for your patience. I liked that head a lot too. Rick
 
I bought the last EC1 Coated heads that my local shop had.
I was told that they were discontinued.
I hope that they return with a great version of these heads.

The EC1 Coated heads have this wonderful, warm, mellow, sustained tone that lingers in my head long after the head was struck.
I love them!
I did find that I had to fuss with the tuning until I understood these heads.
They are not good heads for a novice at tuning drums.

As is shown in my info, I am in Norman, OK. When I was in the market, no one in Norman or even the entire OKC area stocked Evans blue hydraulics. They could all order them. I wound up finding them on line from a tip from one of the drum web sites I am on. I have purchased what I need. But I have three questions:

1: Last year at Tulsa's The Big Beat - Drum Day, where I had my first Zickos set, I met a rep from Evans who told me after I showed him my kit (as I suspected) that Evans made the original blue hydraulic heads for Zickos with the Zickos logo on them. Is this true?

2:The original heads had plastic counter hoops and I had one separate rendering it useless. I replaced it with an Evans and all was well. My second set that that I pieced together didn't have blue heads and I put new Evans heads on it. At first they sounded very dull and lifeless to the extent that I almost replaced them, but over time they have come alive and are giving me the sound I like. Do you have any explanation for this?

3: My favorite sticks are Regal 5-B Maple and I have not found any other manufacturer that makes a comparable stick. I understand that Regal is discontinuing this model. I even went out and bought 9 pair so I would have them for a while. I don't go through sticks very often, so they should last me a while.. Any chance Pro Mark might pick it up in the future?

Re:1 - I'm not sure but will try to find out.
Re:2 - There was a period in Evans history when their flesh hoops were made of epoxy. The original Hydraulics were made with the epoxy hoops.
Re:3 - I'll research the specs on that model and see if we have something close. Thanks, Rick
 
I bought the last EC1 Coated heads that my local shop had.
I was told that they were discontinued.
I hope that they return with a great version of these heads.

The EC1 Coated heads have this wonderful, warm, mellow, sustained tone that lingers in my head long after the head was struck.
I love them!
I did find that I had to fuss with the tuning until I understood these heads.
They are not good heads for a novice at tuning drums.


There amazing! a little bit plastic sounding at times, i found them much easier to tune than another head i tried to replace my dead ec'1s with a dead ish emperor and couldnt do it haha ?? they tune nice and low, there warm and still have some nice attack would be nice if the were maybe a mm thiner ?
 
There amazing! a little bit plastic sounding at times, i found them much easier to tune than another head i tried to replace my dead ec'1s with a dead ish emperor and couldnt do it haha ?? they tune nice and low, there warm and still have some nice attack would be nice if the were maybe a mm thiner ?
I agree, Just a slight bit thinner may do the trick for a new EC1 Coated. I believe that you meant to say mil in your post instead of mm but I understood what you meant.
I normally tune tight but I did learn that I liked the EC1's slightly looser. I also set my reso's loser with the EC1's on top.
 
Very refreshing to see you on here,I like it when management takes a hands on approach.I have a couple comments and a question or two.I have used Evans heads before,Gen quality has not been an issue,and I get the impression that along with a good marketing campaign that E is not resting on its laurels,I see improvement of the products and I like that E is always bringing new and different products to the marketplace,so I think that you all will do your best to bring the Pro mark division up to snuff.I recently put some G plus heads on toms of my gigging rock kit and like them,they are 12 ml and seem to hold up well while using 5 b hickory and like sized but heavier pro mark oak 5-b and 808 sticks.Seeing the g plus heads inspired this question about 10 years ago I bought an Evans 22 kick head that I loved,it had a semi translucent tan/slunk head look to it,was textured or texture coated like the g plus,and had the tone ridge,so it was 2 ply at the edge extending out a couple of inches,the beater or outer head part was single ply.I looked on your website for it but could not narrow down the correct model if indeed it is still made.Any ideas if it is still being made?Next topic,I like to play with wood tipped sticks that have a longer thinner taper because they seem to be faster and easier to control,and I use them when practicing and they last a decent amount of time,but when gigging in a classic rock band I tear them up pretty quick so I have been using 5-b sticks that have been thicker at the shoulder and shorter tapered for durability but at the expense of speed and control. Recently some one gave me a pair of wood tip Pro mark 5-B's and I like them a lot,and also bought some oak 808,s,I like the sound,and the shoulder and tips have held up really well,but they are a bit heavy especially by 3rd and 4th set of the evening.I was wondering if there is and oak model that was a little lighter like a hickory 5-A or B,with a longer thinner taper.The problem is that while almost all the retail outlets in atlanta carry pro mark,most only carry three or four base models,a few wood and a few nylon.

I'll get back to you on your drumhead question. Regarding your question on the weight of the sticks - there is a fairly significant range in the weights of any model stick with each production run. You may see a variance in weights of more than 25 grams from the lightest to the heaviest sticks within the batch. That's why we weight sort and then tone sort each stick before pairing. You can visually see a bell curve among the sorting bins. Usually, you will find these variances within the stick display at your store.

Regarding the tapers, you will see a host of new tapers from Pro-Mark in the next several months. Rick
 
Hi Rick

As i already stated by the posts of Evansspecialist Ben Smith (or Mike or Jim):

I explicit support the cause and the way you step in to show your position.

We clearly see, where it comes from and it helps a lot to bring clarity to some long pending questions - and all coming from the Pres himself - what can we ask for more?

GREAT - and yes, this is the real stuff, not spam!!!

Bernhard

Thanks Bernhard, always a pleasure.
 
I agree, Just a slight bit thinner may do the trick for a new EC1 Coated. I believe that you meant to say mil in your post instead of mm but I understood what you meant.
I normally tune tight but I did learn that I liked the EC1's slightly looser. I also set my reso's loser with the EC1's on top.

my bad, mil haha it could be i love the coateds i tune them till the wrinkles are out with g1's for reso but seeing as the ec1's are discontinued i don't know what to get next I need something fat,deep,warm with a still solid attack
 
So I just now noticed that the head that was shipped to me also included a free magnetic drum key! This thing is awesome, but sadly the lugs on my Rockstars are just too small for it. It works wonders on my snare and Pedal adjustments though! So, for like the eighth time, thanks again Rick!
 
So I just now noticed that the head that was shipped to me also included a free magnetic drum key! This thing is awesome, but sadly the lugs on my Rockstars are just too small for it. It works wonders on my snare and Pedal adjustments though! So, for like the eighth time, thanks again Rick!

You're welcome. Enjoy! Rick
 
I agree with you've gotta go with what works for you. Regal Tip and Vic Firth make great products.

+1 for not bashing other companies, and actually supporting them. That's something you don't tend to see every day.

I also wanted to say, I really like the clear/ hazy coating you guys use, brings new aesthetic life to drum heads. The white coated, blue hydraulic, and clear.. er well clear heads was really starting to get old. Way to keep things fresh over at Evans. Are you guys planning on making all your coated heads with this coating? I ask because i also have noticed it lasts alot longer.

In regards to pro mark, The tenor line im captain for this year uses the Jeff Ausdemore snare sticks and they sound amazing on tenors and snare. I love the feel of them, and as far as drum set sticks go, I have alot to say.


First things first, I love the Billy Ward wood tips, but I think you guys should consider making pairs of them with the bulb on one stick and not the other, for those of us who play traditional. I find the bulb gets in my way when i try to play traditional. Just a suggestion but I know it would take a lot more work as far as getting matched pairs. On another hand before i found the billy wards, I played with the Joey Jordison Signatures, i don't much like his style of drumming but i love the smaller diameter and heavier weight/ front heavy feel of his sticks. Never really have had a problem with the quality of them.

Sorry for such a long post but I must agree with everyone else here, you are really a brave guy for coming out into the public where you can get such mixed emotions and taking on the public yourself. But it does show your really dedicated to making your company better. Im sticking with evans and promark for sure now.
 
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