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Old 07-15-2012, 03:32 AM
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:33 AM
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He is both...Nevertheless, He is a drummer... and drummers rock!
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:03 AM
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I don't think it really matters. Just another chance for silly arguing.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:10 AM
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I've actually never heard him play, just read about him in magazines. So I can't answer the actual question.

But . . .

It's fairly cliche to start thinking something or someone who is popular is "overrated." In fact, they may just be "too popular." I think it's easy to become too popular, but difficult to tell if something or someone is overrated. I think it takes historical hindsight to determine if something or someone is overrated.

Personally, I respect anyone who has achieved making a living from playing drums.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:12 AM
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If you compare him with Marco Minnemann, of course he is overrated. In any case, I can think of him as an entertaining drummer. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:21 AM
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I don't think he is either he is just doing his job as a drummer.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:01 AM
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It's fairly cliche to start thinking something or someone who is popular is "overrated." In fact, they may just be "too popular." I think it's easy to become too popular, but difficult to tell if something or someone is overrated. I think it takes historical hindsight to determine if something or someone is overrated.

Personally, I respect anyone who has achieved making a living from playing drums.
I totally agree with JBoom, in this case, the "too popular" might apply here, every famous drummer has given something to the drumming community, whatever we like or don't like a particular drummer.

Travis Barker is a very good drummer, shame he doesn't play in band which I happen to like, I never been a fan of Blink182.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:37 AM
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Underrated or overrated.....personally I couldn't give a toss. I'll leave that for the fanboys, detractors and everyone else who seems to comment on youtube without the first clue of what it is they're commenting about.

What do I think of him? This covers my thoughts exceptionally well I think.

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Sure there's a ton of drummers I'd prefer to listen to over Travis Barker, but that doesn't change the fact that he's the best Travis Barker there is. He's out there doing it, being acknowledged for it and most importantly, getting paid for it. What more can he do? What more should he do?
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:26 AM
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He's without question the king and savior of modern drumming. Before Travis, people had no alternative to the obviously painful sub-standard drumming of people like Ringo, Meg White, or worse, Peart who is nothing but a huge ego with bad sounding drums. Then Travis Barker hits the scene, bringing back real drumming with passion, dynamics and feel. I think the best part about his drumming is how innovative it is.

He's constantly pushing the boundaries of the very essence of what it means to be a drummer, and I think any rating is an under-rating, because it's hard to even define what it is he does that's so awesome. Basically, he's so far ahead of us that it will take some time to figure out what's really going on.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:54 AM
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If you compare him with Marco Minnemann, of course he is overrated. In any case, I can think of him as an entertaining drummer. Nothing more. Nothing less.
I think that's a fair statement - for a good many drummers out there, past and present.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:58 AM
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He's without question the king and savior of modern drumming. Before Travis, people had no alternative to the obviously painful sub-standard drumming of people like Ringo, Meg White, or worse, Peart who is nothing but a huge ego with bad sounding drums. Then Travis Barker hits the scene, bringing back real drumming with passion, dynamics and feel. I think the best part about his drumming is how innovative it is.

He's constantly pushing the boundaries of the very essence of what it means to be a drummer, and I think any rating is an under-rating, because it's hard to even define what it is he does that's so awesome. Basically, he's so far ahead of us that it will take some time to figure out what's really going on.
Now you're making me want to listen to Travis Barker for the first time! I find more and more reason to respect your opinions.
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:07 AM
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I'm also with JBoom on this one. The man is making a living playing his drums and that's more than I could ask for. Oddly enough, I don't listen to any of their songs, though. But I respect anyone who's out there doing it and putting food on the table with it, because I know how hard that can be when you just try to do it with your drums. So I'm cool with whatever Travis, or any other person in his shoes, does.

In fact, I had a brush with greatness some time ago when I went to a party and this guy introduced himself to me and told me he played drums on one of Britney Spear's tours (weird way to start a conversation though), but as soon as the tour was over, he was back at it doing work as a plumber, or whatever it was he was doing. I don't remember his name. So in this light, if you can have any kind of career playing your instrument and can continue to do so for more than three years, you get my respect. You might not get my ear, but that's ok.
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Old 07-15-2012, 08:19 AM
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He's without question the king and savior of modern drumming. Before Travis, people had no alternative to the obviously painful sub-standard drumming of people like Ringo, Meg White, or worse, Peart who is nothing but a huge ego with bad sounding drums. Then Travis Barker hits the scene, bringing back real drumming with passion, dynamics and feel. I think the best part about his drumming is how innovative it is.

He's constantly pushing the boundaries of the very essence of what it means to be a drummer, and I think any rating is an under-rating, because it's hard to even define what it is he does that's so awesome. Basically, he's so far ahead of us that it will take some time to figure out what's really going on.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:05 AM
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The thing is, the drummer himself has nothing to do with whether he's over-rated or under-rated or whatever. He just does his thing and other people decide. Very few drummers out there are saying, "I'm the greatest (except Buddy)" and I really doubt Travis would argue that he's under-rated. Like everyone else he plays his gig the best he can and that's it. Moron haters and fan-boys are the ones who start this kind of stuff.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:13 AM
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He has been in the right place at the right time to cultivate endorsements, fame and a steady income stream. Not my type of music, therefore not my type of drummer. But I respect what he has done and his legions of fans. 30 years ago, I probably would have been a big fan. 30 years from now, Travis may be playing on the 50th Anniversary Burning For Buddy Memorial Concert.

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Old 07-15-2012, 09:44 AM
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He's one of my earliest influences, he's very creative, thinks outside the square, and his material is absolutely littered with 'I would never have thought to play that' moments. Not everything he does is impressive, but he tries to leave his mark on everything he does.

Those who aren't too keen on Blink 182 should check out +44, it's so much better than the recent Blink 182 stuff.
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Old 07-15-2012, 12:07 PM
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To me he now just a meme. He is mentioned in the comments of every youtube drum video because it's supposed to be funny. Is it funny though? Yes. Yes it is.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:33 PM
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You know how on any good music video on youtube some moron makes a Justin Bieber comment?
Yeah, drummers have been doing that with Travis before it was cool. 8)

He's a good drummer, I don't get why people feel the need to go "OH THIS GUY IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN TRAVIS BARKER" on an unrelated jazz drum video.

Millions of people love Ringo Starr, I don't see people criticising him because he doesn't have Tony Royster chops.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:41 PM
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To me he now just a meme. He is mentioned in the comments of every youtube drum video because it's supposed to be funny. Is it funny though? Yes. Yes it is.
So it's meant to be funny? It seems like in every single drum related youtube clip, the main focus of the commentary is Barker. It makes more sense if people say it just be hilarious, similar to screaming Freebird at a concert. But, even if people mention him initially to be funny, it always seems like there is a genuine discussion of people arguing over his ability after that. Often the top rated comments!
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:42 PM
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Who's doing the rating? Who cares about who's doing the rating?

Anyone who is popular can be considered overrated -- especially if they're flashy and depend on theatrics -- which he does.

Having said that -- the guy can play -- no doubt.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:50 PM
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My son sold me his iPod about 4 years ago loaded with about 300 songs. A few by the band Blink 182. He tells me about a Blink 182 concert where the drummer is strapped to his seat, which is attached to a riser that rises off the stage and rotates 360 degrees. Later, I get my Guitar Center Catalog, and this guy with tatoos on neck and arms is standing in front of a OCDP kit. I say, OK, this is the guy who almost got killed in a plane crash, affair with Paris Hilton, does have some licks and skill. I do a little research and I find out:
-Broken, difficult childhood, mother dies before he starts high school, gets tatooed so he can only be a drummer, and not work a normal job. I'm not a Blink 182 fan, but I do like to connect with my kids and learn about thier interests. My son's mother died too before he started High School.

Overrated...? Perhaps. But in order to be considered "overrated" in society, you've broken through barriers and people know your name. To me, he is a musician, drummer and entrepreneur who doesn't have to do the 9-5 day job, and earns money while he sleeps. Looks like he's doing what he loves...
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:47 PM
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Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of anything he's involved with...
...but what does it matter if someone is overrated? Thinking of someone as overrated usually comes from a place of insecurity. It only creates a place for people to debate and argue over something they have no influence over. It's the same with Phil Rudd or Ringo... No matter what a bunch of nerdy drumming fanatics decide, they're still laughing all the way to the bank.

Whether he's overrated or underrated, he has a successful career, of which most of us will never reach or surpass.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:05 PM
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I'm contemplating if I actually care enough to write a post that I think he's hugely overrated.





Huh. Guess I do.
He's a marketing machine that has some drumming skills and can entertain.
I do not (and will never) understand why he is 'the bar' to which all other drummers are compared to for a certain generation.
Youtube foolishness?
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:13 PM
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I wish I played as well as he does and had the opportunity for the gigs he does.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:16 PM
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Who cares. Anyone who makes an honest living as a musician is doing ok in my book.
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Any drummer who inspires others to pick up a pair of sticks is ok in my book, and Travis has inspired thousands and thousands. As a drummer, he's pretty decent at his chosen style, and I can't remember him ever claiming to be a great technician or virtuoso. He just plays what he plays, and it seems to resonate with a lot of young drummers.

On a non-related note, does anyone else get the impression that lindsayannemusic starts these threads just to generate traffic to her YouTube channel? 21 post, 15 of which are new threads, and most of them contain the same link? I'm happy to check out forum members' playing, but how about keeping the link spamming under control?
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I respect what he does, although I do not care at all about it. If he stopped drumming, I would not even notice. Peace and goodwill.
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I think Travis Barker is inspiring a lot of kids, so that's good enough for me. I think where his problem lies is that he is seen as a bit of a one-trick-pony compared to a lot of other popular drummers. If he were to branch out a bit convincingly away from Blink182 he'd probably garner a bit more respect among critics.
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give credit where credits due, hes a good drummer, and hes making a good living from it.

its just people on youtube who have no idea what theyre talking about blow him out of the water far too much.. one of the classics is travis barker vs tre cool lol
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On a non-related note, does anyone else get the impression that lindsayannemusic starts these threads just to generate traffic to her YouTube channel? 21 post, 15 of which are new threads, and most of them contain the same link? I'm happy to check out forum members' playing, but how about keeping the link spamming under control?
Nah...she seems like an excited young drummer, and there's nothing wrong with that. She hasn't asked for my credit card info to buy her miracle lug cleaning grease or anything sketchy like that, so I'm not too worried.
Besides, so far she's been asking some pretty good thread questions. If they were dumb, then people would be getting on her about 'em. I haven't seen her spam anywhere, but maybe I'm missing something.
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On a non-related note, does anyone else get the impression that lindsayannemusic starts these threads just to generate traffic to her YouTube channel? 21 post, 15 of which are new threads, and most of them contain the same link? I'm happy to check out forum members' playing, but how about keeping the link spamming under control?
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No, you're not missing anything, she's just a very busy person :)

I agree, Lindsay's putting interesting threads out there, to say the very least, they generate a lot of discussions and involments from the members, so it's all good :)
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:34 AM
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I just watched a few Barker videos. His shirts are definitely overrated!

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He's my hero. It's his attitude and style that makes him what he is, not his technical ability. He just owns every song that he plays on in my opinion!
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:30 AM
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So it's meant to be funny? It seems like in every single drum related youtube clip, the main focus of the commentary is Barker. It makes more sense if people say it just be hilarious, similar to screaming Freebird at a concert. But, even if people mention him initially to be funny, it always seems like there is a genuine discussion of people arguing over his ability after that. Often the top rated comments!
I find it funny because people get drawn into the argument even though it's a complete troll. Then comments fill up with pointless arguments, which is the fate of every single youtube video, except the whole travis barker thing makes that pointless arguing into a satirical joke. At least that's why I laugh when I see it in a completely unrelated video. As far as I'm concerned, the youtube comments section is the worst arena of internet discussion imaginable and is only fit for ridicule.
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Like Joey Ramone, Travis has more happening as a drummer than most people realise. Saw a clip of him working a pad - he can do a lot more than punk - that's just his shtick.

Have to agree that the constant references to him on YouTube are galling. YouTube is a treasure trove and should be treated as such IMO

But, then again, the whole blogosphere is galling - too many people on the planet, bickering away like frickin' monkeys to achieve or preserve "status" (which I see as applying balm balm to damaged egos which will be extinguished sometime in the next few decades anyway).

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Nah...she seems like an excited young drummer, and there's nothing wrong with that. She hasn't asked for my credit card info to buy her miracle lug cleaning grease or anything sketchy like that, so I'm not too worried.
Besides, so far she's been asking some pretty good thread questions. If they were dumb, then people would be getting on her about 'em. I haven't seen her spam anywhere, but maybe I'm missing something.
Yeah, I think I was pretty tired and grumpy yesterday.

Still don't see how the YouTube links are all that relevant to the discussions she starts, but I guess they're not all that different from people (like me) having links in their signature.

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Old 07-16-2012, 10:32 AM
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I don't think he's bad, but... he's not better than most other drummers who can play (even some who doesn't make a living out of it).

Posting on YouTube that he's better than some of the greats - Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Bonham, Gadd, Weckl, you name it - is just stupidity.
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Posting on YouTube that he's better than some of the greats - Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Bonham, Gadd, Weckl, you name it - is just stupidity.
Yes, but put yourself in a 15 year-old's shoes with only a couple years of experience. What are the chances that kid will have consciously sought out any of those drummers you mentioned?
That's 3 dead guys and two studio drummers, in some peoples' eyes, as inexperienced as those eyes may be. There's a pretty strong chance that none of those mentioned were the initial inspiration for a kid to pick up the drums today. If those kids play drums because of Travis Barker and they think he's great because of who he is and what he does, how is that any different than Ringo, Neil Peart, Tommy Lee, Lars Ulrich, Meg White or Dave Grohl and the influence they had? All of these drummers polarized opinion to a degree, and each had a huge level of influence on a particular group of influential kids.

Sorry to be harsh about the 3 dead guys thing, but I'm just trying to make a point. If those kids come around and embrace even one of the guys you mentioned, then we all win. But if they don't come around, they don't come around.

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Default Re: Travis Barker: Underrated or Overrated? What do you think of him?

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Originally Posted by Cameo View Post
Posting on YouTube that he's better than some of the greats - Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Bonham, Gadd, Weckl, you name it - is just stupidity.
Don't you remember being a teenager? Your heroes were the best in the world, and everyone who thought differently were obviously idiots (even if you hadn't really heard of the artists in question). That's just how the brain works at that age.

Let them have their heroes. If they stick with drumming, they will branch out and discover other players soon enough.
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