DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM   

Go Back   DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM > General Discussion

General Discussion General discussion forum for all drum related topics. Use this forum to exchange ideas and information with your fellow drummers.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1281  
Old 12-04-2009, 09:06 PM
aydee aydee is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,413
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
There Aydee goes again, stirring up the hornets' nest...
wheryabin , you jazz fiend??


..............
Reply With Quote
  #1282  
Old 12-04-2009, 09:21 PM
The Colonel's Avatar
The Colonel The Colonel is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 504
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

A little this, a little that.

Starting this week, I am interning with Italian percussionist Andrea Centazzo. Gonna be handling his bookings/tours etc - he lives just down the street from me! Gonna be traveling with him too (Oh I hope I get him that gig in Vietnam!)

How you doing?
__________________
www.myspace.com/colonelslastwaltz
Robots are your friends
Reply With Quote
  #1283  
Old 12-04-2009, 09:30 PM
aydee aydee is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,413
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
A little this, a little that.

Starting this week, I am interning with Italian percussionist Andrea Centazzo. Gonna be handling his bookings/tours etc - he lives just down the street from me! Gonna be traveling with him too (Oh I hope I get him that gig in Vietnam!)

How you doing?
Not bad. Got a fun thing going with a reggae band who's lead singer is a Korean, born in Uganda, raised in Indonesia & Seattle, who's got a funky jamaican accent and a nerdy but awesome jazz alto player from Germany...

ya, get to Vietnam. I hear its a great place to visit. Are you playing thesedays? ( sorry, we should be PMing this, but I figure this thread is dead so..)
Reply With Quote
  #1284  
Old 12-04-2009, 09:40 PM
The Colonel's Avatar
The Colonel The Colonel is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 504
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Jazzgregg mentioned Centazzo in one of his posts in this thread, so technically, *I'm* keeping the thread on task. *You* seem to be stumbling through here with your non-jazz related blather! (Ha! En garde!)

Jazz jazz jazz! Jazzy jazz jazz!

Sounds interesting! (Is the singer a guy or girl? And if girl, cute? always a plus!)

Jazz jazz jazz! Singin' 'bout some jazz!

He's got this big boxset of reissued stuff from his own label (Ictus) with some really great players: Lol Coxhill, Radu Malfatti, John Carter, Evan Parker, etc. Gonna check it out shortly!

Jazzy jazzington! Jass jass jass! Keep playin' that jazz!

The rock band is getting some serious interest from several different managing groups/advertisement agencies - maybe you'll hear us in an iPod commercial within the year.

Jazz! I'm talkin' 'bout some crazzy-[j]ass jazz!
__________________
www.myspace.com/colonelslastwaltz
Robots are your friends
Reply With Quote
  #1285  
Old 03-07-2010, 04:22 AM
Funky CrÍpe's Avatar
Funky CrÍpe Funky CrÍpe is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Barcelona
Posts: 949
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

i don't care if this conversation is dead, i just saw this and i am completly gobsmacked

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXtnQ8i9Jjs#movie_player

two of the finest solo's and pieces of musicianship i have ever heard a jazz group play.....and they were all so young at the time
__________________
"Pop videos are porn for cowards!"
Reply With Quote
  #1286  
Old 03-07-2010, 05:38 PM
Flam_Taps
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Check out Stefon Harris and Blackout. My favorite contemporary jazz band. These guys are absolutely smokin' and there's probably not one of 'em over 25 years old.
Reply With Quote
  #1287  
Old 11-17-2010, 04:27 PM
jamest's Avatar
jamest jamest is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 43
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Anyone else loving Jeff Tain Watts? Seen some of his stuff on youtube playing with Branford Marsalis. Some really smooth sophisticated playing.
__________________

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going!"

Reply With Quote
  #1288  
Old 04-03-2011, 09:16 PM
truecat truecat is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Any idea which to choose?

-Yamaha Stage Custom Birch 4 Piece Jazz

-Gretsch CC-J484-RS Catalina Club Jazz

-Ludwig LCE18JX-5 Element Wrap Jazzette Shell Pack

-Tama VL48JS-DMF Silverstar Jazz Kit 4 Piece
Reply With Quote
  #1289  
Old 04-04-2011, 08:27 AM
24hoursplumber 24hoursplumber is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 5
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

I mostly listen to rock and its various forms, but when I dive into the jazz punk should have an element of it as Jim Black (a good example!). I've heard a lot of college kids playing jazz here and it seems that die of jazz. Then I heard a punk in the street and find myself wishing the kids that like jazz.
__________________
Plumber Services
Plumbing Services
Reply With Quote
  #1290  
Old 04-08-2011, 10:29 PM
drumsjs drumsjs is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Hey truecat- I have the same question. Did u decide on the kit?
Reply With Quote
  #1291  
Old 04-10-2011, 03:15 AM
truecat truecat is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by drumsjs View Post
Hey truecat- I have the same question. Did u decide on the kit?
I have choosen Yamaha. But my order failed, still cant reach their website
so quit plans and ordered a Mapex
Reply With Quote
  #1292  
Old 04-10-2011, 05:23 AM
Fishbones's Avatar
Fishbones Fishbones is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Location: Location:
Posts: 857
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Cool to see this thread pop up - didn't know it existed.

I'm pretty involved in the experimental jazz/nu-jazz stuff. I'm really digging it right now. Mixing jazz with electronic influences is just really cool to me and really innovative. Anybody else interested in this kind of stuff? (Don't get me wrong - I'm still a huge Miles, Trane, Charlie fan).
Reply With Quote
  #1293  
Old 04-10-2011, 08:21 AM
drummaman1's Avatar
drummaman1 drummaman1 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 218
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

1. Buying a Tama Silverstar bop when I gather the money for it. Swapping out the heads for Jack DeJohnette Aquarians cranked.

2. Paul Motian.
Reply With Quote
  #1294  
Old 04-12-2011, 01:40 AM
The Colonel's Avatar
The Colonel The Colonel is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 504
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishbones View Post
Cool to see this thread pop up - didn't know it existed.

I'm pretty involved in the experimental jazz/nu-jazz stuff. I'm really digging it right now. Mixing jazz with electronic influences is just really cool to me and really innovative. Anybody else interested in this kind of stuff? (Don't get me wrong - I'm still a huge Miles, Trane, Charlie fan).

Funny that you say you like jazz with electronic influences and then backtrack and say you still like Miles: he was one of the dudes who started it all, man! He forced Hancock to play an electric keyboard in the studio one time, after Herbie just dropped in to see what was up - he had his groceries with him. From there, you've got In A Silent Way, Bitches Brew, etc etc. That stuff is *great* - strange that so many people thought it was awful...

If you want to check out some really great "out-there" stuff - check out AMM - particularly their stuff in the 60's. They were some of the pioneers for all of this stuff. It's not for everyone, and I'd recommend giving it a few serious listening sessions (not background music, but eventually, if you're into it, it *can be* - and your friends will hate you : )

More modern stuff... Thirsty Ear has some really great stuff, dating back to, I dunno...late '90's I think...? There's a DJ Spooky album ...and I can't remember the name... "Optometry" ? something like that? I'm not at the house... It's got one of my favorite guys, Joe McPhee, on horn.

My old cranky buddy Jon Abbey owns Erstwhile - another great label putting out avant-garde music under the "electro-acoustic" umbrella - Tons of great stuff there with electronics and acoustic instruments. One of my favorites is Forlorn Green, with trumpet and tape loops.

Tons of great stuff out there. I wouldn't call it "innovative" any more. It's just "there". Hell, the Beatles and Pink Floyd made the loops/noise/etc stuff commercial almost 50 years ago.
__________________
www.myspace.com/colonelslastwaltz
Robots are your friends
Reply With Quote
  #1295  
Old 04-12-2011, 04:01 AM
Fishbones's Avatar
Fishbones Fishbones is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Location: Location:
Posts: 857
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
Funny that you say you like jazz with electronic influences and then backtrack and say you still like Miles: he was one of the dudes who started it all, man! He forced Hancock to play an electric keyboard in the studio one time, after Herbie just dropped in to see what was up - he had his groceries with him. From there, you've got In A Silent Way, Bitches Brew, etc etc. That stuff is *great* - strange that so many people thought it was awful...

If you want to check out some really great "out-there" stuff - check out AMM - particularly their stuff in the 60's. They were some of the pioneers for all of this stuff. It's not for everyone, and I'd recommend giving it a few serious listening sessions (not background music, but eventually, if you're into it, it *can be* - and your friends will hate you : )

More modern stuff... Thirsty Ear has some really great stuff, dating back to, I dunno...late '90's I think...? There's a DJ Spooky album ...and I can't remember the name... "Optometry" ? something like that? I'm not at the house... It's got one of my favorite guys, Joe McPhee, on horn.

My old cranky buddy Jon Abbey owns Erstwhile - another great label putting out avant-garde music under the "electro-acoustic" umbrella - Tons of great stuff there with electronics and acoustic instruments. One of my favorites is Forlorn Green, with trumpet and tape loops.

Tons of great stuff out there. I wouldn't call it "innovative" any more. It's just "there". Hell, the Beatles and Pink Floyd made the loops/noise/etc stuff commercial almost 50 years ago.
Wow -- you know your stuff! Yeah, I'm one of the few people I know who absolutely loves everything from Nefertiti through Bitches Brew/IASW. After the mid 70s, Miles kinda lost me. He had some weird collaboration stuff. I'm really digging the new stuff though - I love Robert Glasper, Meshell Ndegecello, Kudu, Jojo Mayer's projects... all that good stuff.

I'm into pretty much anything new and different. I grew up on jazz and my dad was big on psychedelic rock and the likes. I was listening to Wayne Shorter, Parliament, Pink Floyd, and all the interesting stuff growing up. Cutting edge stuff has always been huge for me.
It's great to meet someone else who's into this kind of music!
Reply With Quote
  #1296  
Old 04-13-2011, 02:48 AM
The Colonel's Avatar
The Colonel The Colonel is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 504
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Miles still had some great stuff in him after the 70's. Pick up Tutu. That's his last classic track, IMNSHO. There's a great live tribute album led by Wallace Roney (I think) that has a GREAT version.

Definitely definitely go to the Thirsty Ear stuff.
__________________
www.myspace.com/colonelslastwaltz
Robots are your friends
Reply With Quote
  #1297  
Old 04-13-2011, 02:58 AM
toddbishop toddbishop is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,071
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
Funny that you say you like jazz with electronic influences and then backtrack and say you still like Miles: he was one of the dudes who started it all, man! He forced Hancock to play an electric keyboard in the studio one time, after Herbie just dropped in to see what was up - he had his groceries with him. From there, you've got In A Silent Way, Bitches Brew, etc etc. That stuff is *great* - strange that so many people thought it was awful...
I never get the "sell-out" criticism, either, when it was some of the most out stuff of his career.

That reminds me, was the Mtume/Stanley Crouch thing posted here?
__________________
Visit Cruise Ship Drummer! - a drumming blog | 2017 CSD! Book of the Blog now available
Reply With Quote
  #1298  
Old 04-13-2011, 04:50 AM
8Mile's Avatar
8Mile 8Mile is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 3,895
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Colonel View Post
My old cranky buddy Jon Abbey owns Erstwhile - another great label putting out avant-garde music under the "electro-acoustic" umbrella - Tons of great stuff there with electronics and acoustic instruments. One of my favorites is Forlorn Green, with trumpet and tape loops.
Good to see some others from the JC crew representin' here.
Reply With Quote
  #1299  
Old 04-13-2011, 05:19 AM
The Colonel's Avatar
The Colonel The Colonel is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 504
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by toddbishop View Post
I never get the "sell-out" criticism, either, when it was some of the most out stuff of his career.

That reminds me, was the Mtume/Stanley Crouch thing posted here?

Sinbad is *very* passionate.
__________________
www.myspace.com/colonelslastwaltz
Robots are your friends
Reply With Quote
  #1300  
Old 01-14-2012, 07:23 AM
syoshii's Avatar
syoshii syoshii is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Japan
Posts: 80
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Jazz is really really interesting music...wide variety of styles, mixture of all kinds of music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH6O0y5rlD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WalmmbmzXA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0TvLDlWtQ
__________________
syoshii@Tokyo, Japan
Twitter: http://twitter.com/polyrhythmic_bw
Keep Alan Dawson's Legacy Alive!
Reply With Quote
  #1301  
Old 08-22-2013, 05:14 PM
aydee aydee is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,413
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

...

On the passing of keyboardist extraordinare, George Duke, bassist Christian McBride writes a beautiful and intimate recollection of their relationship, which might be of interest to some of the boys here:

http://christianmcbride.wordpress.co...-got-my-wings/


...
Reply With Quote
  #1302  
Old 08-22-2013, 05:22 PM
dmacc dmacc is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,575
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

To the list, we also added Marian McPartland yesterday.

Her show is an institution for people interested in the genre. Hopefully Bill Charlap continues on with it.
Reply With Quote
  #1303  
Old 08-23-2013, 05:54 AM
groove1's Avatar
groove1 groove1 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Midwest US
Posts: 780
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Cedar Walton too...in the past couple of days.
Reply With Quote
  #1304  
Old 08-23-2013, 11:24 AM
dmacc dmacc is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,575
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by groove1 View Post
Cedar Walton too...in the past couple of days.
Geez, I missed that one....
Reply With Quote
  #1305  
Old 08-23-2013, 12:37 PM
aydee aydee is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 7,413
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

...

What is sad is that now we are losing a generation of players who grew up in the music and with the people around the music and not in the present day information/digital age where 'access' came so easy and remotely, almost in a vaccum.

To learn and imbibe, without paying the dues or living the life.

Thats probably why a lot of the older gen talks about people not having their own voices thesedays. They can all play, with superior technique than the generations past....... but they dont seem to have their own voice- As Colltrane did. Or Miles, or Mingus, or Monk, or Zawinul... who had to figure the stuff out for themselves, and in that search and quest they became the musicians they did.

This is a vast generalization of course, but its a strong feeling amongst the older guys.


...

Last edited by aydee; 08-24-2013 at 07:20 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #1306  
Old 08-24-2013, 05:07 AM
groove1's Avatar
groove1 groove1 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Midwest US
Posts: 780
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

At 65 maybe I'm getting to be one of the older guys..not sure yet, but I know I hear a lot of
younger jazz musicians that have technique in spades but often without heart and soul. For me if the heart isn't there, I don't care about the rest. This is a generalization. Of course there are younger players with great heart etc and there were older cats with monster technique.
Reply With Quote
  #1307  
Old 10-05-2015, 08:14 PM
BacteriumFendYoke's Avatar
BacteriumFendYoke BacteriumFendYoke is offline
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Canterbury. The One With the Cathedral.
Posts: 6,292
Default Re: THE "BIG" JAZZ THREAD

Anybody else excited by the new Love Supreme release in November?

http://www.clashmusic.com/news/john-...o-be-re-issued
__________________
PEWFLADCC
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Bernhard Castiglioni's DRUMMERWORLD.com