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Old 05-26-2011, 03:27 AM
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Default Mystery Ludwig drum thread!

Ok, not really. Unlike some people I can use Google and don't have to start or end my mystery gear threads with "HELP!"

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I won this baby on Ebay. The seller was local so he was kind enough to let me come pick it up from where he worked. You can imagine my disappointment when I sit down with it, get the lugs off and see that the shell is made of particleboard. Aaaargh!

So what I do know is that it is a 1941 Ludwig and Ludwig Juvenile Snare drum. Here is the link to the catalogue scan from Vintagedrumguide.com http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/imag...are_drums4.jpg Going by what I have read this appears to be the only year they made these out of particle board and painted them white. I bought it because I thought it was a refinished solid wood model.

The drum is complete. Looks to be an older, coated Remo single ply batter in surprisingly good shape and what looks to be the original reso. It's torn but this baby is real calfskin with wood hoops! I've never seen a head made with wood hoops. The shell is still in round, looks like a singly "ply" of pressed fiberboard, rounded edges, no nicks. The inside is cracked where a threaded black plastic/bakelite grommet has been forced into the shell. Going by the catalog pics it looks to be original.

What surprises me is there are actually snare beds cut into this thing to accommodate the "wires" which look surprisingly like nylon guitar strings. The "butt plate" is a bakelite/plastic piece with rows of holes through which the snares are threaded through, it sits between the counterhoop and the head. Drum also came with a very weathered canvas bag.

I have included the two pictures from the auction I'll snap some of my own when I get home.

Does anything know more about this drum. Any notes on value or collectibility of it? In its present state what would you say its worth?
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Old 05-26-2011, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: Mystery Ludwig drum thread!

I am surprised, I didn't know that particle board was around back then.
I know that plywood was invented around that time. The late 30s I think.
Plywood was big during the war years.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: Mystery Ludwig drum thread!

Ok, snapped some pictures of the drum. Pardon the quality, my cell phone is my only camera ATM.

A few of the shell inside. You can see the crack where the vent hole was forcefully installed.
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And lastly for a little laugh the logo of the batter head that came with the drum. It's a little blurry but you can see that its a Remo with a black smudge under the logo. I couldn't read the black test till I got home. It says "Banjo". Hah!
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:23 AM
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It almost looks like a paper product. pretty cool.
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What did you pay for that thing? I'm guessing that any value it has is only for collectors.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: Mystery Ludwig drum thread!

Luke, I paid $25 for it. Like I said, I thought the shell was solid wood when I bought it so 25 bucks would have been a steal. I felt a little ripped off when I got the drum apart and saw the shell is basically a sound clipboard.

Of well... Live and learn.
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