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Old 06-03-2010, 11:10 PM
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So I was at my gig last night playing away and I smelled something burning and I wasn't sure what to do but I just kept playing and I started looking around trying to find the source of the smell. I looked behind me and saw the lights behind me had fallen down and one of the lights was directly on my cymbal case and my cymbal case was melting! I reached back and yanked the power cord out for the light and finished the song. I was really worried becuase I had extra cymbals inside the case and I was worried that it was going to melt all the way through.

At the end of the set I checked it out and it didn't burn through the 2nd layer of the case, but it did melt the handle off my case! I'm pretty bummed about my case, but it could have been much worse. It sucks becuase I'm leaving for tour next week and I don't really feel like shelling out for a new case, I might just leave it how it is until I get back from tour.

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Old 06-03-2010, 11:15 PM
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That sucks man...but at least it didn't fall on you or your kit!!! I was watching a local band here one evening and one of the speakers fell off the stack and landed on a keyboardist!! Dude was hurt pretty bad...so at least in this instance it was only a casualty of the case.
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:19 PM
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Your case did what it was supposed to do!

Let's have a moment of silence for mcbike's Protechtor Case, which sacrificed itself in the line of duty...
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:23 PM
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I highly recommend an SKB for the replacement. I love mine.
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:28 PM
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Hey, if the case still works, don't be so worried!

And the others are right, be thankful the lights didn't fall on you, or worse, your kit!
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Old 06-03-2010, 11:42 PM
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I highly recommend an SKB for the replacement. I love mine.
Yeah, the SKB would have fought off the lights, sprayed some air spray (for the burning smell), and bought you a drink, all while protecting your cymbals...
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:14 AM
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Your case did what it was supposed to do!

Let's have a moment of silence for mcbike's Protechtor Case, which sacrificed itself in the line of duty...
"Mcbike's Protechtor Case, we barely knew ye, yet your life was given protecting precious bronze. May ye rest in peace."

A strange and unfortunate accident. Were they your band's lights? Otherwise I'd ask the venue owner to help pay.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:20 AM
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Wow, that thing looks pretty messed up. If the case still functions though i would not worry about it. When you have money, get a new one, just be content your case is not totally gone.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:27 AM
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Your case did what it was supposed to do!

Let's have a moment of silence for mcbike's Protechtor Case, which sacrificed itself in the line of duty...
"Mcbike's Protechtor Case, we barely knew ye, yet your life was given protecting precious bronze. May ye rest in peace."

A strange and unfortunate accident. Were they your band's lights? Otherwise I'd ask the venue owner to help pay.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:00 AM
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Hey, if the case still works, don't be so worried!

And the others are right, be thankful the lights didn't fall on you, or worse, your kit!
Yeah, who cares about 3rd Degree burns as long as your kit is okay...

I would gladly sacrifice myself for my kit.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:04 AM
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And THAT's why we have cases in the first place! Go mcbike!
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:39 AM
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Over on the prosoundweb forum, they are really, really adamant about anything hung overhead being done properly with rated stuff. The liability is whoever hung it up there.

Anything hung overhead like lights or speakers is supposed to have a safety wire. So if the clamp on a PAR light loosens up and comes off the truss, the safety wire will keep it from falling on the ground or worse yet, somebody.

This is serious business, and people hanging things overhead need to learn to do things right. As folks said, fortunately it only landed on your case, and not you. But whoever hung that light up there owes you a new case.
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:54 AM
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Yeah, who cares about 3rd Degree burns as long as your kit is okay...

I would gladly sacrifice myself for my kit.
I hope it's obvious I was joking...
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:56 AM
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Haha yeah of course man!
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:36 AM
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Your case did what it was supposed to do!

Let's have a moment of silence for mcbike's Protechtor Case, which sacrificed itself in the line of duty...
^ This.

*insert silence*

Protechtor stuff rules.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:25 AM
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We use LED lighting for that, and other reasons. Par 64's are dangerous! RIP your case. It did it's job.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:34 AM
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Just my "Swiss" point of view:

Who installed the lights? If not you yourself and you didn't change something on the light installation for the gig there should be a liability of the owner. A third party liability insurance or something?

Anyway, the owner should pay the damage, if he has no insurance: his problem.... - not a new case, but the time value (How old was it - so 50% or so...)

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Old 06-04-2010, 12:53 PM
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Bummer about the case cost, McBike. Hopefully someone will fork out for it other than you.

Worst I saw was seeing a kick drum burst into flames on stage because of the spotlights placed close on either side. Talk about a showstopper ... much fantic roadie work followed.

Good idea to have LEDs, Andy. Those cans get so hot. I remember one time feeling like my back was burning due to a couple of cans above and behind blasting heat on me. Not much fun!
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:04 PM
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If this was a US venue, several agencies would be very interested. OSHA, the local fire marshal and the local code enforcement officer. The venue owner owes you a replacement case, and is up for big fines in addition to getting someone to re-rig the lights properly. This is not a game or joke. Since the Great White fire, local authorities have been much more on the ball with bar and club owners putting up half baked installations. Go to the venue owner and ask as nicely as you can with the velvet hammer that he should reimburse you for the case. And "suggest" that before anything else bad happens, he get someone who knows what they're doing to re-rig things. Otherwise one of the local AHJ (authorities having jurisdiction, the phrase pros use to describe the guy that can shut them down) will be paying a visit.

Kind of like calling the health inspector after being in a ratty restaurant where you got food poisoning.

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Old 06-04-2010, 09:47 PM
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It was my own bands lights, so I'm not going to sue my band over a $100 case? I'm going to push for led's though. I hate the hot lights anyways, and the bulbs are always breaking we could have paid for the led's by now for all the times we had to buy bulbs and gels, not to mention my case.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:14 PM
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Well then, that changes things. LEDs are cool. The things you can do with color changers and all is great. Power distribution is greatly simplified.

But they are expensive.

And the first thing you should be spending money on is the rig you have now. Before your band gets sued, or someone who knows how it's supposed to go sees your rig and calls the local AHJ to shut you down, please get a pro rigger to go over your set up with you and show you what needs to be done to make it safe. If folks didn't know to put safety wires on the cans, I have to wonder how the truss mounting is done, and what kind of lifts are being used. Orange hardware store extension cords? Common shortcuts and they will all come back to bite you hard when some drunk knocks things over and someone gets hurt. But if your rig is to spec, then you've done your due diligence and you're in the clear.

It sucks that musicians get paid so little and then the safety police hold you to the same standards they do to professional theatrical shows, but that's the way it is. And you certainly don't want to be responsible for someone getting hurt. Messing up your case was a wake up call. Don't let the next victim be some body.

Sorry for the sermon, but this isn't a game to me. And those of us in the production business get undercut by so many people who don't care with half baked DJ rigs that it's a sore spot. Just like a pro muso dealing with folks who will come in and play for a few beers. Makes it hard to compete. At least with the amateurs that play for beers the worst that can happen is mediocre music. Incorrectly done sound and lighting rigs can start fires, fall on people, and really mess up a lot of folks lives.
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:33 PM
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Definitely an endorsement for protecting your cymbals with a HARD CASE. The only way to go.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:57 PM
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That's what they're there for!

Take it to your next curling match. ;)

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