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Old 11-04-2007, 10:19 PM
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My personal faves in no particluar order

"Headhunters" - Herbie Hancok with Mike Clark
"Back To Oakland" - Tower of Power with David Garibaldi
"Exit Stage Left" - Rush with Neil
"Spectrum" - Billy Cobham
"10,000 Days" - Tool with Danny Carey
"Star Time" - James Brown (Compliation with many great drummers)
"Prescence" -Zeppelin
"Tony Williams Quintet Live In Japan"
"Katy Lied" - Steely Dan with Jeff Porcaro and Hal Blaine
"Karizma" - All Star Fusion Qunitet with Vinnie Colaiuta
That is a great list, however that's Harvey Mason on " Headhunters " with Herbie Hancock.
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I don't know how many time Lateralus has been mentioned, but this album could win just for "The Grudge" alone, much less the rest of this great album.
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That is a great list, however that's Harvey Mason on " Headhunters " with Herbie Hancock.
and the drums are YAMAHA......................... : )
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and the drums are YAMAHA......................... : )
Really? Wow . Don't get me wrong , Aydee, I love Yamaha drums ( very fortunate that our church kit is Birch Absolutes ). I'm only suprised Harvey was on Yamahas on that album because in the mid to late 70s he was a Rogers endorser.( By the way , Rogers was my first professional quality kit ).
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Really? Wow . Don't get me wrong , Aydee, I love Yamaha drums ( very fortunate that our church kit is Birch Absolutes ). I'm only suprised Harvey was on Yamahas on that album because in the mid to late 70s he was a Rogers endorser.( By the way , Rogers was my first professional quality kit ).
The credits on the album list it as: HARVEY MASON - yamaha drums.


Rogers were great.I grew up playing my friends blue sparkle, with the Dynasonic snare and all that gleaming memriloc hardware. great memories!
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:30 AM
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Well, now I know . . . Did it also inspire Fly By Night? :) What is it in 11/8? Well now that the mystery has been decoded, even I can write a song.

My favorite Rush song is La Villa Strangiato. I love that syncopated 7/8 groove in the middle. (You could make a "list your favorite Peart 7/8 groove" thread.)

I dated two girls in the late 70s who were both big Rush fans. They don't make chicks like that any more.


Hemispheres . . . loved that album . . think I'll put it on. But not my favorite.

It would have to be Aja with the Purdie 'Shuffle' on Home at Last, Jim Keltner on Josie, Rick Marotta and Gadd . . . Gotta be the best drum album for me. Great album if your not a big Jeff Porcaro fan. I guess he was busy with Toto. Now if he were also on it, that would have really been the deal. Unless he were on "I Got the News."

Purdie will be in my hometown at a clinic. I can't believe that the guy who played on all the Beatles tracks would need to do clinics. I'll have to ask him what happened to the money.

"Learn to play the saxophone, I'll play just what I feel. Drink Scotch Whiskey all night long, and die behind the wheel . They got a name for the winners in the world, I want a name when I lose,.they call Alabama the 'Crimson Tide' . . .

. . . Call me Deacon Blue."

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. . . nuff said.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:34 AM
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The credits on the album list it as: HARVEY MASON - yamaha drums.


Rogers were great.I grew up playing my friends blue sparkle, with the Dynasonic snare and all that gleaming memriloc hardware. great memories!
Right you are on the album credit listing ! Yes , great memories and how I miss my Dynasonic snare. Rogers were great drums.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:38 AM
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I really really enjoyed 'End Of All Things To Come' by Mudvayne. The drums in Mudvayne are very unique and I can't get over them. You seriously have to check out this band.

The All-Star Sessions by RoadRunner United are great aswell if you haven't heard it already.
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I'm gonna choose Layers Of Lies by Darkane, with Peter Wildoer on drums.
This is for metal fans, IMO every bit as good as Lombardo, Cavalera, Carey and Ulrich.
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.....interesting reading, gives mw a couple of albums to look out for..
Anyway, some of the albums I love and would reccomend to anyone playing drums(in no particular order)...



Toto-The Seventh One. Jeff Porcaro at his best. Particularly like 'a thousand years', and 'these chains'

Red Hot Chilli Peppers-Aeroplaine. Nice stuff from Chad

Dave Weckl-Masterplan. What made me want to play drums...

Don Grusin-Banana Fish. Some of the best playing from Carlos Vega, and Harvey Mason.

Bob James-Three. Amazing drumming from Harvey Mason, and Andy Newmark. 'One minute Julep' has to be one of my fave drumming songs.

Sting-Ten Summoners Tales. Vinnie at his tastefull best

Sting-Nothing like the sun. Ditto, but for Manu Katche

Dick Morrisey-Souliloquy. Still prob my fave jazz/pop drumming from Steve Ferronne

Alan Parsons-Ammonia Avenu. drums by Stuart Elliot. Admitedly V '80s sounding, but still quality tastefull drumming.

Spyro Gyra-Love and other obsessions. Joel Rosenblatt, lovely stuff.

David Sanborn-As We Speak. Some of my fave jazz/pop from Omar Hakim. Quality.

Tower of Power-Souled Out. Herman Matthews laying down some signature sweet groves.

Ray Obeido-Iguana. Amazing drum sound and quality stuff from David Garibaldi, Will Kennedy, and Paul Van Wannigen in particular who does some sweet salsa style beats

Ill stop there...

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Old 11-06-2007, 03:08 PM
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I'm gonna throw one track:

Art Blakey's "Free For All" on the album "Free For All"

It was his "Don't forget about me!" track in '64 when Elvin and Tony were getting all the praise.
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No need, I was a Cub Scout thirty years ago when you actually had to work for the merit badges. The code for the letters is this:

Y = - . - -
Y = - . - -
Z = - - . .

Just say them out loud as "dash" and "dot" and you will hear the rhythm that is repeated over and over at the beginning of the song.
To be honest I couldn't really catch it even I knew morse code because in actual code, there should be a brief pause between letters to indicate the separation.

And reading this thread made me realise that I don't listen to music for the drums. Drums are important yes, but it doesn't have to be outstanding for the music to kick ass. It's just icing on the cake for me if I enjoy the drumming as well. In my opinion.
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whelp...

Giant Steps - Coltrane (just to throw out another)

Presence - Zeppelin (his playing just got so solid by then)

Stanley Clarke - Stanley Clarke (convinced me that Tony Williams was God)

yeah.
Presence is the most under-rated Zep album of all time

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"Krupa vs. Rich" there is a tune on that album called "the Monster" and they don't. call it the monster for nothing recorded in 1955 the way drums sounded and the recordings back then totally cool,the tune starts off like gangbusters and doesn't. let up not to mention Oscar Peterson on Piano and Dizzy on trumpet.too all you young drummers out there after you listen to Travis B. take a listen to that CD and realize who the forefathers of drumming really are.just try to imitate those drums I dare you.

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Old 11-06-2007, 06:07 PM
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No need, I was a Cub Scout thirty years ago when you actually had to work for the merit badges. The code for the letters is this:

Y = - . - -
Y = - . - -
Z = - - . .

Just say them out loud as "dash" and "dot" and you will hear the rhythm that is repeated over and over at the beginning of the song.

I have been a Rush fan for 25 years and "Moving Pictures" was one of my the "drumming" albums that really influenced me. Thanks for the trivia DogBreath. I had always heard about YYZ but that confirmed it.

Around the same time Spring Session M by Missing Persons (Terry Bozzio of course) came out. Thatalbum really blew me away as well.

Jeff Becks Guitar Shop with TB and Blow by Blow with Richard Baily....Smokin'!
The groove from "Freeway jam" still put chills up my spine

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I really like Led Zep II.
That's when Bonham took over the world.

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Old 11-06-2007, 06:15 PM
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Here's a short list of albums that have been special and influential to me. I strive to be a drummer who can play a lot of styles, so there's quite a bit of different influences here.
These are in no particular order...

1. Let There Be Drums..Sandy Nelson
2. Something New, The White Album...Ringo Starr
3. Count Basie at Newport...Joe Jones (My Dad Turned Me On To Jazz with this album)
4. Wheels Of Fire...Ginger Baker
5. Electric Lady Land / Axis Bold As Love....Mitch Mitchell
6. Derek & The Dominos..Layla--Jim Gordon
Tied with Joe Cocker's Madogs and Englishmen...Jim Gordon, Jim Keltner
7. Johnny Cash At San Quentin or Folsom Prison...W.S. Holland Drums
8. Traffic...John Barley Corn... Jim Capaldi (and many other Traffic albums
9. The Doors Debut...John Densmore (and all other LPs)
10. Cannonball Adderley...Live In San Francisco..Louis Hayes
11. Miles..Something Else..Art Blakey
12. Led Zep-- 1, 2, 3, 4.and beyond.Bonzo
13. Who's Next and other Who Albums..Keith Moon
14. Deep Purple... In Rock and others...Ian Paice
15. Merle Haggard I'm a Lonesome Fugitive...Biff Adams (And Other Merle and Buck Owens Albums).
16. Mercy Mercy...Buddy Rich
17. Jazz At The Philharmonic..Gene Krupa
18. Shelly Manne and His Men Live At the Black Hawk Volumes 1-4
19. The Band (Brown LP) Levon Helm..(and many other Band albums)
20. Blood Sweat & Tears ..Bobby Columby "Child Is Father To The Man" and BS&T (second album)
21. The Ventures Onstage...Mel Taylor (Contains my favorite version of Wipeout)
Great all-around list I always liked the Ventures "wipe-out" better then the original probably would've put Zappa on that list though he had great drummers always.

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Too many favorites to list but here's a few.

Jimi Hendrix- Are you Experienced ( Mitchell at his best )
Led Zep - Presence my favorite but anything by them ( Bonham, need I say more? )
Steely Dan - Aja ( Steve Gadds work is flawless)
Rush- anything with Peart playing
Pat Travers - Go for what you know ( My favorite Aldridge stuff, some say it's sloppy but I think it's great, try imitating it ! )
Bad Company - Bad Co. The tune Movin On in particular ( Simon Kirke , not flashy but solid as a rock ).


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Old 11-06-2007, 07:49 PM
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Sting - Ten Summoner's Tales (Vinnie Colaiuta)
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For me...

Dream Theater - Awake

BTW, just noticed - this thread was started in July 2005 !
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Yellowjackets - Blue Hats
song: Capetown.

I dare you guys figure out how to play the groove. It sound simple but dang it is hard.
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Porcupine Tree - In Absentia Gavin Harrison
Steely Dan - Aja Steve Gadd
Planet X - Moonbabies Virgil Donati
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire Billy Cobham

Honestly, there are too many different genres to really name one all time, but my absolute favorite is In Absentia. Harrison just knows what works with the song.
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Old 11-16-2007, 04:20 AM
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Just a few picks that have stayed with me leaving a lasting impression:

"Live at the Lighthouse" Elvin Jones

First heard this when I was 18 and changed my life forever and the way I thought about the drums and how they could be played as a ensemble instrument AND as a solo instrument. Every dynamic stroke in Elvin's playing is captured very well on this impressive live recording featuring two saxaphones and acoustic bass.

Between Rudy Van Gelder's amazing {as always} recorded drum sound and Elvin Jones exciting,dynamic ensemble playing and KILLER melodic/polyrhythmic extended solo on Sambra this is one recording that will always set the bar for pure Elvin live in a club at his best.

"Free For All" Art Blakey

Totally killer Art Blakey at the drum chair leading/driving the band and every track is a masterpiece in regards to both writing and jazz ensemble playing. Another milestone recording and a musically drum featured masterpiece.

"Tokyo" Tony Williams

Tony Williams best 90's quintet group recorded live. Enough amazing Tony playing featuring his own compositions complimented by a great recording and group playing and several excellent musical drum solos on double CD's to keep any late TW period listener pretty happy.


Just a mere samplier with MANY others I could mention. Don't even know if these are even in print or available anymore which if true would be a real shame since each in it's own way is a crowning achievement in modern drumming and jazz performance and ensemble playing with a heavy degree of masterful musical drumming that every serious lover of the drums should check out or have a copy of IMO.
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i would have to go with "Deloused in the Comatorium" by the Mars Volta...
some really good drumming goin on there; which continues on to other albums of theirs

but also, Zeppelin IV i think is an obviously good album for drumming too, along with all the older zeppelin albums showing off Bonzo's power

(Anyways, this topic could be argued forever)
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:43 AM
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i would have to go with "Deloused in the Comatorium" by the Mars Volta...
some really good drumming goin on there; which continues on to other albums of theirs

but also, Zeppelin IV i think is an obviously good album for drumming too, along with all the older zeppelin albums showing off Bonzo's power

(Anyways, this topic could be argued forever)
Nah...


DB had it right in the very first post of this thread...


Rush - Moving Pictures (1981)

Argument over after post 1.

Play On! ;-)
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I don't think this was ever an argument.
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[quote=The Timekeeper;375937]Too many favorites to list but here's a few.

Pat Travers - Go for what you know ( My favorite Aldridge stuff, some say it's sloppy but I think it's great, try imitating it ! )


Good one. I haven't heard that one in years. Excellent album. I liked Tommy best when he was with Pat T. I don't know about FAVORITE album, but very good.
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I don't think this was ever an argument.
Agreed. Can't argue with that, Delta! Hee...hee...


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Old 11-19-2007, 12:23 PM
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""Free For All" Art Blakey

Totally killer Art Blakey at the drum chair leading/driving the band and every track is a masterpiece in regards to both writing and jazz ensemble playing. Another milestone recording and a musically drum featured masterpiece."




Yeah! I'll bring up my post again:

"I'm gonna throw one track:

Art Blakey's "Free For All" on the album "Free For All"

It was his "Don't forget about me!" track in '64 when Elvin and Tony were getting all the praise."





The reason I say "one track" is because he doesn't drum like that on the rest of the album....He *almost* gets there on that Freddie Hubbard tune (name escapes me right now but it's an acronym...track 4, I think)





And before seeing that, I was coming in here to say either "Mars Volta - Deloused..." and agreeing with Stoopid, or "Mars Volta - Frances the Mute" I think I go with Frances. Great drumming throughout. Maybe Deloused gets the nod just because when it came out I remember EVERYONE going "Holy crap! This band is awesome!"
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Birds of Fire - Mahavishnu Orchestra

And any Primus album I really can't pick one!
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Right now I'm just digging ANYTHING with Joey Baron on it. That man is an absolute monster, severely underrated. His playing with Masada is exquisite and the other side of his coin, Naked City is something that everyone has to listen to once. Just high-energy intensity like I haven't heard since Tony Williams. I'll also add to the Mars Volta advocates, although I've only got 'Deloused in the Comatorium' that is something special.
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Birds of Fire - Mahavishnu Orchestra

And any Primus album I really can't pick one!


Yes! Sailing the Seas of Cheese! Herb Alexander is a monster.
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I'm taking back my initial recommendations and instead going with

Milford Graves - Grand Unification.


Pretty ridiculous for one guy. That man is working on another level.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:44 PM
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""Free For All" Art Blakey

Totally killer Art Blakey at the drum chair leading/driving the band and every track is a masterpiece in regards to both writing and jazz ensemble playing. Another milestone recording and a musically drum featured masterpiece."




Yeah! I'll bring up my post again:

"I'm gonna throw one track:

Art Blakey's "Free For All" on the album "Free For All"

It was his "Don't forget about me!" track in '64 when Elvin and Tony were getting all the praise."



The reason I say "one track" is because he doesn't drum like that on the rest of the album....He *almost* gets there on that Freddie Hubbard tune (name escapes me right now but it's an acronym...track 4, I think)


Yes that first track on the record "Free For All" is a intense/musical display of Art really pushing the parameters of what many would have expected from him back then. Amazing Art and group performance.

The other track you are thinking about Erik is was the Freddie opener of side 2 of the original LP "The Core". Yes a little different from the album title track but another fine Art vehicle featuring yet more great group playing all around. First time I heard this at 18 I flipped with trying to take in the depth of what was taking place in the studio during this amazing group performance.

A milestone and important recording and must have for a serious drum and music collection and certainly on my short list for a desert island pic.
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It's nothing really special but i love it... It's the new John Butler trio album; Grand National is alot of fun to drum along to, i've been along too it for about two or three months on and off... i know all the parts by now but it's really diverse and there's so much you can do with it. Michael Barker has inspired me too be really creative with parts even with a straight ahead beat there's always something you can do to it a extended fill, chop the beat up a little bit its good to get inventive.
Also the album helps me with my soloing (There is a lot of rolls and it can get quite technical underneath the seemingly easy-going beat)
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:54 PM
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Rockenfield and Speer

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I'm a little younger, so I gotta go with Carter Beauford on Dave Matthew's album Crash- like the band or not, he is amazing.
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Default Re: Best drumming album of all time?

i know maybe its not the best but i like time out of dave brubeck quartet, improvising with all those odd time signatures is really entertaining
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