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Old 10-22-2018, 06:15 PM
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I wanted to share with the drum community that we have acquired the remainder of the Conway Slingerland drums (yes...those) Im honored! We are going to respectfully introduce them into the market in the near future stay tuned!!!! #radioking #studioking #krupa all still new in the box

Ill post some pics soon as well. Cheers!
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Old 10-22-2018, 07:57 PM
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Cool find but are you aware of the quality control issues from Slingerland/Gibson on the Conway era drums?

The drums from this period are well renowned for being very hit and miss.

Hopefully for you though you got some good ones.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:32 PM
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I wanted to share with the drum community that we have acquired the remainder of the Conway Slingerland drums (yes...those) Im honored! We are going to respectfully introduce them into the market in the near future stay tuned!!!! #radioking #studioking #krupa all still new in the box

Ill post some pics soon as well. Cheers!
Welcome to the forum, Slingerlandguy.

Question: Who is "we?" Are you a company? Individual? Partnership?

How do you intend to make the drums available for purchase?

Does this include complete drum kits?

Approximately how many kits and individual drums have you acquired?

Are all of the drums finished, in need of assembly, or both?

I live about 45 minutes from the original Conway factory. Are the drums still in Arkansas? Will they be sold from there?

I've heard for years about the questionable quality of the Conway drums, but can't find any specifics about them. Are the quality issues real, or the advent of another internet myth?

If the drums are still in the Conway area and you need some help of some kind, let me know. I'm retired now, used to work in MI, and would love something to do related to drums.

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Old 10-23-2018, 09:31 PM
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I've heard for years about the questionable quality of the Conway drums, but can't find any specifics about them. Are the quality issues real, or the advent of another internet myth?
Here’s an article from Not So Modern Drummer. It’s not an internet myth, just google Conway Slingerland and you’ll find quite a few examples. It was also common knowledge at the time.

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Gibson moved the machinery from Nashville, where immaculate sets were produced in the nineties by Sam Bacco and Patrick Foley, to Conway where the piano builders and woodworkers had little drum building experience and made lots of mistakes.

https://www.notsomoderndrummer.com/n...as-cloud-badge

I apologise to Slingerlandguy as I don’t mean to ‘be that guy’ as it’s great there are some boxed/like new Slingerlands are out there, it’s definitely worth noting and very valid though for anyone maybe unaware.

Like I said earlier in the thread hopefully these drums are some of the good ones from this period and I’d also love to know more about the drums in question.

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Old 10-23-2018, 10:37 PM
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Thank you for your concerns , to my understanding (but by all means correct me if I am wrong) the biggest problem was with the wraps, not the drum itself. At this point it really doesn't concern me too much. Each Drum weve unboxed has been Pristine. I will post some pictures soon were still overwhelmingly busy. Should make for a lot of excitement !! Hope everyone has an amazing day!!
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:48 PM
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Unboxed these for my personal collection of music gear!!!! Absolutely Stunning! ( All hardware is there just not installed)
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Thank you for your concerns , to my understanding (but by all means correct me if I am wrong) the biggest problem was with the wraps, not the drum itself. At this point it really doesn't concern me too much. Each Drum weve unboxed has been Pristine. I will post some pictures soon were still overwhelmingly busy. Should make for a lot of excitement !! Hope everyone has an amazing day!!
Also noted issues with lugs/rims/bearing edges as the final production on the shells were all done the Conway plant.

Obviously if youíve inspected them and canít see anything thatís very positive news.

Iíll look forward to seeing some photos.
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Hi SG and welcome to DW. From the picture you posted it looks like Niles or possible Imported badges on the kit. In the 80's and to very early 90's Slingerland had three types of Imported badges and one even said U.S.A. on it. From what I remember the Conway made kit had a light bronzish color cloud badge. I could be wrong but that's what I remember of the badges at that time and what Gibson was showing on their site. Also the tom holder does not look right for that time frame. Could you show a picture of the tom mount from the outside and inside of the shell and badge?

Very nice looking drums. How do they sound?
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Some of the language sounds like the last spoofy email I got from a Nigerian wanting me to help him with his money problem and I'd receive a million dollars for my trouble:

"I wanted to share with you my good fortune of having made acquaintance with a Mr. James Livingood (yes him) of London I had the honor but of passing through former to Lagos and without proper papers for said deposits. Having acquired your name am respectfully asking for your assistance, and on completion be yours truly assured of receiving one million dollars for your troubles."

"I wanted to share with the drum community that we have acquired the remainder of the Conway Slingerland drums (yes...those) Im honored! We are going to respectfully introduce them into the market in the near future stay tuned!!!!"

The word "respectfully" is an often used word in overseas fraud schemes. Also note a few punctuation errors and slightly skewed grammar.

"Each Drum weve unboxed has been Pristine. I will post some pictures soon were still overwhelmingly busy. Should make for a lot of excitement !! Hope everyone has an amazing day!!"

Another example of what looks like improper use of grammar, language, and punctuation typical of fraud schemes.

I'm a bit skeptical.
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Old 10-24-2018, 04:57 PM
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The Krupa kits have the oval badge. The Jazz kits have the cloud badge as well as the Radio kings and Super radio kings
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:23 PM
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Thanks for the welcome Force3005!
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:34 PM
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Some of the language sounds like the last spoofy email I got from a Nigerian wanting me to help him with his money problem and I'd receive a million dollars for my trouble:

"I wanted to share with you my good fortune of having made acquaintance with a Mr. James Livingood (yes him) of London I had the honor but of passing through former to Lagos and without proper papers for said deposits. Having acquired your name am respectfully asking for your assistance, and on completion be yours truly assured of receiving one million dollars for your troubles."

"I wanted to share with the drum community that we have acquired the remainder of the Conway Slingerland drums (yes...those) Im honored! We are going to respectfully introduce them into the market in the near future stay tuned!!!!"

The word "respectfully" is an often used word in overseas fraud schemes. Also note a few punctuation errors and slightly skewed grammar.

"Each Drum weve unboxed has been Pristine. I will post some pictures soon were still overwhelmingly busy. Should make for a lot of excitement !! Hope everyone has an amazing day!!"

Another example of what looks like improper use of grammar, language, and punctuation typical of fraud schemes.

I'm a bit skeptical.
It's easy to understand the skepticism, but this one is for real. I spoke to John on the phone yesterday, and he has invited me to meet him and see the drums tomorrow. He's a real gentleman, and his love for drumming and drums is clearly evident. I'm looking forward to meeting him, and will report back here on what I saw - with pics if I'm allowed at this early stage of the process.

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Old 10-24-2018, 05:44 PM
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I'd love to get one of the Conway Radio King snare drums. Just sayin'.
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Old 10-24-2018, 06:01 PM
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TRICKG They will be slowly be available here soon....
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:04 PM
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Thank you for the kind words gdmoore28! See you tomorrow!
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:05 PM
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The Krupa kits have the oval badge. The Jazz kits have the cloud badge as well as the Radio kings and Super radio kings
How many of the Krupa kits do you ave available ? Do you have a cost on thrse yet ?
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Hey SG. What you have from Gibson is a signature series Gene Krupa kit. Built in 1998. The other was a Buddy Rich signature series. Both are very rare. The wrap colors are some what different from each. Nice find. Remember let us know how they sound. Again, nice or should I say great find.

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Ill keep you informed sir! Thanks!
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:38 PM
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How many of the Krupa kits do you ave available ? Do you have a cost on thrse yet ?
I'm curious as to this as well. If memory serves me, the Gibson slingys we're stupid expensive.
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I'm curious as to this as well. If memory serves me, the Gibson slingys we're stupid expensive.
The Slingerland kits in the early 2000's were going for between $3000-5000 plus. That's why most, not all drum shops did not carry them. If you were a Gibson guitar dealer, you had to buy one kit per year if you still wanted to be a Gibson dealer.
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Really cool thread, I'm interested to see more pics and what the price tag is on available drums. Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling they are going to be overpriced though.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:12 PM
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Had the most amazing visit with gdmoore28 today! Thanks for coming up today really enjoyed your company, ideas and spirit!!
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Are the drums still in Conway? Just curious, another Arkansas guy here. I'm about 2 hours or so north of Conway.
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They are located in NE Arkansas
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:34 PM
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North of Conway as well!
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Had the most amazing visit with gdmoore28 today! Thanks for coming up today really enjoyed your company, ideas and spirit!!
It was an amazing visit for me, too, John. You were a fantastic host.

For the curious, I took a number of pics and handled a lot of drums - and some of them are very special - as in one-offs! I'll try to post pics and narrative tomorrow. You're all going to be pleasantly surprised!

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They are located in NE Arkansas
Bummer, wrong side of the state. I'm in NW Arkansas. I was hoping they were in like Ft. Smith or maybe even Fayetteville.
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A few highlights from the past few days..
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Those look really nice!
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Hey SG. Those are some beautiful snares. I especially like the Zebrawood and the old stand by Maple snare. I need more pictures please, please. Did they make kits out of Zebrawood or any other special woods?
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Thanks Force3005! The are stunning if I don't say so myself! I don't recall any kits being made from exotic woods.
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SLINGERLANDGUY:
I have owned Slingerland drums for almost 70 years. I love Slingerland drums.
You said you have "acquired the remainder of the Conway Slingerland drums".
Could you please share the story behind this. For instance how did this happened. Did you purchase them from someone?
How did that happen? Where were these drum all of these years? Etc.

Thank you.


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Gibson Bankruptcy Auction sir. They have been in a warehouse 15 min from me for a loooong time.
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Here's a few pics from my visit with John at the warehouses (yes, there are several!). I must say that John is one of the most friendly, humble, and dedicated individuals I've met. Just a super, up-and-up guy. He also took me to the business where he works (not music related, at all) and introduced me to fellow employees and his two bosses and partners in this enterprize (Jeff and Don). They were all just like John - friendly, hospitable, and laid back. IE, typical Arkansas folks. That's why I've stayed right here in my home state.

John gave me carte blanche to open any box I wanted and inspect anything and everything. I can tell you based on the items that I inspected, that the internet lore about quality control issues with the Conway drums is MUCH exaggerated, maybe unfounded. I examined every drum in minute detail and found zero issues. No wrap separation. Perfect bearing edges. And that chrome! This was the deepest, most consistent chrome quality that I've seen in many, many years. I can't remember ever seeing any chrome quality that was better. Think apex years Premier drums.

Plans right now are to sell these kit on a new ebay store that has been established. The name of the store is neamusic. Here's a link:

https://www.ebay.com/str/NEA-Music?_...p2047675.l2563

I also had a chance to see and examine a line of Slingerland drums that I was completely unaware of (nothing new for me!), the imported Concert Kings. I was very impressed with these kits. Same deep chrome, beautiful mile-deep lacquered shells (maple), and included hardware. Except for the tom mounts, these look exactly like the USA kits.

Edit: I've removed the URL links I posted to pics as they were not working. I'm trying to find a way to post my pics. I keep getting a notification that the images are too large, but even resizing does not make them upload. I'll figure it out.


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Very cool, looks like there are some very interesting and exciting finds.

Also interesting to see that Slingerland was moving towards the Ďexoticí wood territory going by those prototypes.

Very cool, well done to all!
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Hello again SG. I am like a little kid at Christmas with your post. At the sale did they sell the Slingerland name also? Or do you know, who will end up with it?

Your find is hard to appraise. If you have person that's fine if not look into Rob Cook he has written books on all the major drum builders. His web-site http://www.rebeats.com/appraisals.html

I am so glade that you are sharing your find with all of us.
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Old 10-28-2018, 02:24 AM
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John told me that the Slingerland name is up for bids at a price that I can't divulge, but if I told you the price you'd keel over dead. It's outrageous - but is currently being pursued by a major drum retailer that wants to go into production with new Slingerlands. It'd be good to see the Slingerland drums under production again, wouldn't it. The company seeking the name is not the type to do anything other than the best.

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Double Post. Sorry.

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