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Old 10-11-2006, 06:15 PM
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I'm kind of partial to Adam Topol of Jack Johnson's band. He plays a lot of similar stuff but always manages to spice it up just a bit to make it interesting. I also love his sounds; dark and warm and pleasant to listen to. Oh, and Will Champion completely. If Dave Grohl says you're a great drummer- well, then you've got something, haven't you?!

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you are so right i love Adams drumming on the brush fire fairytails album. He can really spice up some of those songs with some really cool and solid bell beats. I think every one should hear him at least once.
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Charlie Adams. Poor Charlie always gets linked with Yanni. I've studied with him and he has an amazing range of chops not illustrated in the Yanni thing.
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i would say ben graves i really like how he brings tom beats and cowbell to horror punk.
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Nick Mason of Pink Floyd
John Densmore of The Doors
Danny Seraphine of Chicago
Jim Keltner- session drummer etc.
Larry Mullen Jr. of U2
Sib Hashian of Boston
Abe Laboriel Jr. of Paul McCartney
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:46 AM
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Larry Mullen Jr. is DEFINITELY under-rated! No question about it.
Hmmm who else...
Chad Kent- Atomship
Dude from Chevelle
Neil Peart- Rush
Chad Butler- Switchfoot
Michael Ewacha- Me
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i don't know if he's been mentioned already, but taylor hawkins of the foo fighters is a

pretty good drummer that is under-rated in my opinion. i haven't heard his work on "in

your honor" but his stuff on "there is nothing left to lose" is very nice. as is "colour and

the shape". the drumming on "one by one" is ok... it leaves a bit to be desired.
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ronnie vanucci - the killers

mick (woody) woodmansey - bowie's spiders from mars

dennis davis - bowie (he was on station to station and scary monsters... i apologize if i spelled it wrong)

steve fogarino - interpol

steven morris - joy division/new order

i know he's well known, but i thoroughly enjoyed bill bruford's work in king crimson... especially discipline, beat, and three of a perfect pair
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:54 AM
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ronnie vanucci - the killers

mick (woody) woodmansey - bowie's spiders from mars

dennis davis - bowie (he was on station to station and scary monsters... i apologize if i spelled it wrong)

steve fogarino - interpol

steven morris - joy division/new order

i know he's well known, but i thoroughly enjoyed bill bruford's work in king crimson... especially discipline, beat, and three of a perfect pair
I can't believe I forgot these two guys!

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Old 10-13-2006, 08:14 AM
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John Stanier of Helmet, Battles, Tomahawk and Mark of Cain.
Also, Claude Coleman Jr. of Ween. He came back from a severe car accident paralyzed, yet recovered and is rocking even better now, some would attribute.
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this was posted by mikkeydave

1.Listen to his songs just like "creep" or something, he plays the hihat sooo "stiff" that even sounds like a drum program, rather than a real human drummer playing... obviously that's what a studio newbie doing when being nervous and afraid to make mistakes.
2. on one of their 2 disk live album, i already forgot name. before a song, he plays a stick click 1-2-3-4 to set a tempo. Very easy to tell he started too fast and just slowed down at 3-4. Poor feel for tempo.
3.same albume, the live version "just" ..... holly sh!t that was a mess... poor control
4. have u ever listen to their studio version "just"? pretty cool song, i love it.
however, phil once in an interview said "just" was a song that brings him to the "top" in recording.... compared to other songs, yes, "just" is a bit more complicated. but everyone believes for ANY studio/session drummers that can be a true piece of cake. But in this track u can also feel that phil has less confident to play it with more "moving dynamics". Just another programmed machine, very nervous to "catch up" the song not to screw it up.


live situations are always a disaster waiting to happen.

with the common men... my drummer sometimes plays at a tempo slower or faster than what the clicked intro is... oh well... it happens...

in fact... some press has labeled our shows as violently entertaining trainwrecks... where sometimes the only thing holding the show together is the audience's applause.

i guess i'm different when it comes to my live performances... i like some unknown... so rawness... even loss of control in the name of emoting a song.

also... there is nothing wrong with sounding like a programmed machine. in the band i druym in... razorblade monalisa... my goal is to sound mechanical more than half the time... it's what the music calls for.
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Andy Burrows of Razorlight, he is very creative and good live. Razorlight are one all time classic band.
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Andy Burrows of Razorlight, he is very creative and good live. Razorlight are one all time classic band.

Meh, debatable on that last point. but agreed, he plays some nice ride figures on that new single, though why Razorlight should be singing about trouble in America seems a touch odd. Playing up to the U.S. market?
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Leonard Haze = Y & T =Yesterday & Today
Rob Reiner = Anvil = Canadians


There are so many great studio drummers out there recording and most people don't even know their names.


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And what about both of Tom Petty's drummers (or did I already mention them). Steve Ferrone is the poster-drummer for underrated drummers.
Here, here! Watch TP&HB Live at the Olympic DVD. Ferrone lays a pocket a mile wide and just as deep! The guy plays so smooooooth and effortlessly. Phenomenal!

Also a big Stan Lynch fan! Too bad there isn't a page on him here on the Drummerworld home page. Very simple and right on. Good back up singer as well!

Another drummer I like is Kevin Ellman who used to play with Todd in the first incarnation of Utopia. Also Willie Wilcox who replaced Ellman - very good technique and a good singer.
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Old 10-20-2006, 01:43 AM
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It may be just me, but I don't think Antonio Sanchez recieves the recognition that he deserves. I don't see much people talk about him. I saw him in a clinic just a week ago, and I was in awe. Such a great drummer and nice guy. I won a free Yamaha T-shirt at the clinic : D
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Old 10-20-2006, 02:39 AM
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I'm not sure if anyone's heard of far and I don't know his name but he is totally under rated . I saw them play once and WOW that guy can play
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It may be just me, but I don't think Antonio Sanchez recieves the recognition that he deserves. I don't see much people talk about him. I saw him in a clinic just a week ago, and I was in awe. Such a great drummer and nice guy. I won a free Yamaha T-shirt at the clinic : D
I think I agree with you. He's not often mentioned among the masters, and he definitely deserves that.

The fact that he gave you that T-shirt is more than enough for me to respect him. LOL
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Well my last "most under-rated drummer" (Sean Rickman) is now up on the DW site...Let's try and go 2 for 2...

Pete Drummond is INSANE! I've recently been checking out his stuff, and good god can he play...

Here are some cool examples from his site...petedrummond.com

http://www.petedrummond.com/sounds/SOUND_Groove.mp3
http://www.petedrummond.com/sounds/SOUND_Solo1.mp3
http://www.petedrummond.com/sounds/SOUND_Solo2.mp3



this other example is a totally different style from the first...It's like Mike Portnoy on steroids...
http://www.petedrummond.com/sounds/SOUND_On.mp3

What's up with Australia? There must be something in the water down there because they sure do spawn some amazing drummers...
Pete Drummond is a personal friend ... he actually has a new CD on its way - finished mastering just yesterday ... one word - INSANE. :)
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I think I agree with you. He's not often mentioned among the masters, and he definitely deserves that.

The fact that he gave you that T-shirt is more than enough for me to respect him. LOL
Totally man! I jumped up and yelled "YEAH"! when I got it. He's such an amazing drummer, and even before the clinic I didn't know much about him except that he was really into latin music. I was completely blown away. There's a song he does with a band (I cannot remember the name, DAMN). Anyways, the song is 56 minutes long! He was tellin the audience about how he can remember the entire song. It was amazing.

I never hear much about Vinnie Cailuta either. What has he been up to?
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Derek Roddy came to mind, then Dave DiCenso also came to mind, but I'm a bit confused here...

To me, being underrated doesn't have much to do with being well known or not. I see underrated as being considered not as good as the judged element (in this case; a drummer) really is. We all know what being famous or not means.

Am I misunderstanding something? I've been away from england for so long...


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Old 10-22-2006, 01:58 PM
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I've always thought Colin Bailey to be under-rated. He's one of the true musical players running around now, his phrasing is just beautiful.
He's also insanely technically accomplished. But, his phrasing ideas are where it's at for me. His bass drum playing really brought home, to me anyway, just how well (the amount it's used and how tasteful it can be when used correctly) it can be used as a third limb and stepped up my use of the bass drum in both comping and fill/solo phrasing.
Roy Haynes as a leader as well (although this is debatable, but so many drummers never really get their just deserves as leaders. Roy is just one). Some of his albums are just...whoa! Out of the afternoon comes directly to mind as one of my all time favourites. Just so swinging. The playing is so precise, clean and fantastically melodic. God, what a great album :)
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I've always thought Colin Bailey to be under-rated. He's one of the true musical players running around now, his phrasing is just beautiful.
He's also insanely technically accomplished. But, his phrasing ideas are where it's at for me. His bass drum playing really brought home, to me anyway, just how well (the amount it's used and how tasteful it can be when used correctly) it can be used as a third limb and stepped up my use of the bass drum in both comping and fill/solo phrasing.

Colin is a stunning player. His single bass tehnique is just crazy. His taste is impeccable. Joe Morello is a big fan of his as well as a personal friend.

Joe is a pretty big guy and Colin is really small. Back in the day, Colin would sit on Joe's lap and pretend to be a vertriloquist dummy. It was supposedly hilarious.

Yes, an underrated drummer. I've gone thorugh his book (Bass Drum Control) and the CD that comes with it is daunting. Colin plays at JoJo speeds on single kick. I was shocked by his chops when I first heard the CD.

Not as under-rated as Neil Peart but underrated nonetheless. ;)
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Derek Roddy came to mind, then Dave DiCenso also came to mind, but I'm a bit confused here...

To me, being underrated doesn't have much to do with being well known or not. I see underrated as being considered not as good as the judged element (in this case; a drummer) really is. We all know what being famous or not means.

Am I misunderstanding something? I've been away from england for so long...


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i agree with roddy for the instructional stuff he did outside of his forte, the metal stuff.

but it would be good to see him in a band situation outside of metal or just a very different metal approach if its within that genre.

he's a really clean,technical player, but a little too orthodox as a metal drummer. he's a drum machine<granted this is the desired effect anyway>

so as far as the "extreme" stuff<i dont know what else to call music that falls under death,black metal and grindcore>.

gabe serbian of the locust

whoever drums for necrophagist<i keep forgetting his name>

the DEP drummer, im bad with names, sorry

these guys are moreso chops and blinding speed, they are underrated in that sense. they are specialist, not demonstratibly well-rounded or at least i havent heard some <unrelated genre-wise>other band they had been in, playing other styles.

i think the well-rounded thing is important in accessing who is underrated.
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I agree with roddy for the instructional stuff he did outside of his forte, the metal stuff.

but it would be good to see him in a band situation outside of metal or just a very different metal approach if its within that genre.

he's a really clean,technical player, but a little too orthodox as a metal drummer. he's a drum machine<granted this is the desired effect anyway
Have you heard the jazz and blues recordings he did? If not, I can upload them for you if you are interested.
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Have you heard the jazz and blues recordings he did? If not, I can upload them for you if you are interested.

i seen a youtube vid of derrick playing jazz the was ridiculed a while ago here......it was pretty bad, his other instructional stuff seemed cool tho, but it was him alone

but if you have an actual jazz or blues recording, like him playing with a jazz or blues band id very like to hear it.
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i seen a youtube vid of derrick playing jazz the was ridiculed a while ago here......it was pretty bad, his other instructional stuff seemed cool tho, but it was him alone

but if you have an actual jazz or blues recording, like him playing with a jazz or blues band id very like to hear it.
The clips that I have convinced me - but I'm just an ordinary drummer - however, I'm pretty much sure jazz purists will not like his jazz playing, Give me 'till tomorrow (it's very late over here now and I have class tomorrow) and I'll PM you that stuff.


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Oliver Charles (Ben Harper) Fight For Your Mind - great groove and finesse

Luke Flowers (Cinematic Orchestra) - this guy has amazing jazz feel and a great texture to his drumming, check them out, they are brilliant.
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I think that Andy Burrows of Razorlight is underrated. He's great to watch and very creative. A sort of modern version of Stu Copeland, maybe not as good. Also the drummer from the Specials. Great grooves on the more acoustic versions of songs.
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My pick would be Prairie Prince: most people don't even know who is, or they think his band
the 'Tubes' is a knock off of Kiss which is way off base or just "White Punks on Dope"
but they also did Proud to be an American which is a great rock and roll tune. But Prairie
is the guy who got me to want to play drums again. You serious drummer out there have to check out his Tubes recordings especially from their first album 'The Tubes' and their second album 'Young and Rich'. He will surprise you; his works are creative and awe inspiring.
From the first album listen to "Boy Crazy" firstly and from" Young and Rich" listen to 'Pimp and then Brighter Day' firstly and in that order and you will know what I'm talking about.

Prairie has recorded with George Harrison, Todd Rundgren and many other greats, and actually started the band "Journey" too,
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i belive that in this forum there are a few people who does not like metal drumming but there is a drummer that deserves attention to all of you,, is nick barker from dimmu borgir and i think that he is under rated in this forum ,,he has a special way to play that is not just to play like a rithm machine ,besides that he play extreme metal i think that he has well define concept about drumming ,,just to compare extreme metal drummers who compare dereck rody to nick barker ,,just analize the work of each two and you will see ,, check this http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z7vgzTth7Cs
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Old 10-27-2006, 09:55 PM
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Wow leo, just seen the video. That guy can play! I'm not really into metal, but he plays great! Well, hes a little overweight, but doesn't stop him having a good go at that kit!
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I think that Andy Burrows of Razorlight is underrated. He's great to watch and very creative. A sort of modern version of Stu Copeland, maybe not as good. Also the drummer from the Specials. Great grooves on the more acoustic versions of songs.
Good call on Andy Burrows, I really like his style....great feel. I believe he was a jazz drummer when younger.

Other underrated :-

Zak Starkey (The Who, Oasis), just watching him on tv performing with The Who as part of the BBC Proms, very tidy, great chops.

Jason Cooper (The Cure)...very impressive.

Charlie Watts......Surprised he doesn't get more mentions, love his sound and feel....'Can't you hear me knocking?' & 'Paint It Black'.
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Virgil Donati, Derek Roddy, Marco Minnemann, Tomas Haake, I CAN GO FOREVER LOL
most of those I love hearing and learn from are ALL UNDER-RATED :)
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Heretic, you think they're under-rated? They are pretty damn good drummers.
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Daniel Erlandsson... You only hear about his brother Adrian, but daniel is a great drummer. I think his playing is much more exciting then Adrian's
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Honestly I think Carmine Appice is the most underratted... He pretty much started rock drumming, Has had a sucessful book going on for 30 years(?). and so on.

Never hear to much about him, we should
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Old 11-19-2006, 07:06 PM
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rofl virgil is sooo underrated
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:38 AM
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maureen tucker (of the velvet underground)
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:41 AM
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Larray Mullen JR to me is a great drummer one of the first concerts i ever watched was live at RedRock and his drumming really did inspire me its a shame he is under-rated. Also Steve Hewitt from Placebo although i dont particually like there music i have to say he has some moments of brilliance especially with fills.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:36 PM
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PRINCE-
he did all the things that great drummer should do , while he was side men for him self- that's right he played all drum lines in at least 3 of his albums. He was simple( in pockets), keeped good time, made simple fills, and made it just Funky. And he has decent technique too...
ah and he's playing only keybords, bassguitar, guitar and singing too ;)
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