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Old 02-20-2014, 07:05 AM
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I don't care much for Buddy Rich. Plus, he has bad posture :P. Sure, he pioneered one or two things, but watching him play gets old pretty quickly. IMO there are much better modern drummers. THAT BEING SAID, those modern drummers might not been as good as they are without having had Buddy's influence.
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This thread is the antidote to the seriousness here sometimes. Henri, epic poem, I can hear it in Bruce's style. That's a song right there.
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Henri, epic poem. That's a song right there.
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That was awesome...........I have to admit, now along with you, Andy, and Bruce by proxy, I love chimes and need to get another set
Agreed all. Epic stuff Henri. I can see Ben taking up those lyrics. & yes, everyone should have a set of chimes, even if it's only so you can keep them in a box & bitch about how you never use them ;)

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Old 02-20-2014, 07:58 AM
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This may sound ignorant, but what is this other forum that everyone keeps posting about?
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Reddit is a social news and entertainment website where registered users submit content in the form of links or text posts. Users then vote each submission "up" or "down" to rank the post and determine its position on the site's pages. Content entries are organized by areas of interest called "subreddits".


So, r/Drums is a subreddit of the main website. It's a sub-category that allows people to specify the content that they want to see.

It's a completely different scene than here. I find everything on drummerworld.com to be more professional and... tactful?

r/Drums is more laid back. You can contribute to a post on a whim, and if it's smart (or agreed with by the majority) it will get upvoted and will get the most attention.

r/Drums is known for it's single very strict moderator, which is why it sometimes gets some hate. But you can still get away with going a ways against the grain and be just fine.


Personally I prefer drummerworld, but each has it's own strengths and weaknesses.
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:59 AM
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Also, this thread has been awesome. Ya'll are funny.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:29 AM
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Reddit is a social news and entertainment website where registered users submit content in the form of links or text posts. Users then vote each submission "up" or "down" to rank the post and determine its position on the site's pages. Content entries are organized by areas of interest called "subreddits".


So, r/Drums is a subreddit of the main website. It's a sub-category that allows people to specify the content that they want to see.

It's a completely different scene than here. I find everything on drummerworld.com to be more professional and... tactful?

r/Drums is more laid back. You can contribute to a post on a whim, and if it's smart (or agreed with by the majority) it will get upvoted and will get the most attention.

r/Drums is known for it's single very strict moderator, which is why it sometimes gets some hate. But you can still get away with going a ways against the grain and be just fine.


Personally I prefer drummerworld, but each has it's own strengths and weaknesses.
Thank you for the information, I thought I was pretty Internet savvy, but I guessed I missed one. Although, it does not sound like anything I will be visiting. I like it here, friendly/informative/sometimes funny, but the best place for me.
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I was not going to get involved in this, but after several days the thread is still light hearted, so I will have my go:

I do not like:
1) Neil Peart ( I respect him as a person, but I find his drumming to lack the "soul" to move me)
2) Jazz (I have truly tried, but except for Smooth Jazz to go to sleep, the rest does not move me)
3) When beginning drummers ask for advice on cymbals, everyone shouts "Buy used cymbals" from eBay/Craigslist/etc. There are other answers depending upon the particular situation
4) B20 better than B8 (Paiste 2002's, enough said)
5) Buddy Rich (The man was a jerk, a bully and arrogant and the fact is Krupa was better and a good guy)
6) Zil except for New Beats HH's
7) Everyone trying to sound like Bonham (Give it up, cannot be done and he would not want drummers out there trying to imitate him instead of developing their own styles)
8) Uninformed People who do not understand Paiste Alphas are Pro Level
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I agree with an earlier point about Zildjian Ks....only ever purchased one, and thought 'meh'.

Sabian 2002 20" Chinas are rubbish too...I bought one, struck it once, and sold it. They sound like a dustbin lid, but are marginally heavier, and a lot uglier.

I think Keith Moon is very over-rated.

I find drum solos immensely boring. A song with a long drum solo on it is one I'll tend to skip over.

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Sabian 2002 20" Chinas are rubbish too
Worth a bit though, I'll wager.

A truly unique cymbal.

In fact it could be argued that it was one of a kind!! :-)
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Sorry...I feel dirty now
You shouldn't.
You have just cleansed your soul. Doesn't it feel good now? ;-)

Reading through this thread - is there anything I could add?
Maybe this: Show-off videos with hugely overemphasized limb motion, super aggressive facial expression, hasty camera angle switches, pseudo cool video effects, all that YouTube-is-where-it's-at attitude... just put it into a dustbin and don't forget to put the lid on it.

When I first saw this thread I thought it wouldn't survive. I was wrong - thanks everybody!
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Worth a bit though, I'll wager.

A truly unique cymbal.

In fact it could be argued that it was one of a kind!! :-)
Bought for 90, sold for 80.

10 stupidity surcharge for not trying it out in a shop first :-)

Took it to rehearsal all excited like...new cymbal..."listen guys, we're a punk band with some trashier sections, this cymbal and this cymbal alone is going to blow your mind, listen...."

Struck it....

CLANGGGGGGGGFSHHHHHH

Oooer I thought.

This thing was also so ugly....a huge square shaped bell...and weighed so much that it was almost impossible to mount on a standard stand....upside down and the sheer weight of it physically dragged the cymbal in favour of whichever way it was tilted, to the point that it turned to 90 degrees. Other way up and it was simply unplayable.

A completely weird cymbal...but certainly an experience.



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D'OH......I GET IT NOW.....PAISTE 2002....I use Sabian generally. Could you tell ??
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I agree with an earlier point about Zildjian Ks....only ever purchased one, and thought 'meh'.

Sabian 2002 20" Chinas are rubbish too...I bought one, struck it once, and sold it. They sound like a dustbin lid, but are marginally heavier, and a lot uglier.

I think Keith Moon is very over-rated.

I find drum solos immensely boring. A song with a long drum solo on it is one I'll tend to skip over.

Sorry...I feel dirty now
Don't feel dirty!
It happens to be Paiste 2002's, not Sabian.
I cannot stand drum solos, I have seen Neil and Rush 7 times and was not really impressed by that.
Bonham is my favorite drummer, but I am not listening to Moby Dick and as I have stated before, Keith Moon is over-rated.
But he would have been incredible to party with!
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You have just cleansed your soul. Doesn't it feel good now? ;-)

Reading through this thread - is there anything I could add?
Maybe this: Show-off videos with hugely overemphasized limb motion, super aggressive facial expression, hasty camera angle switches, pseudo cool video effects, all that YouTube-is-where-it's-at attitude... just put it into a dustbin and don't forget to put the lid on it.

When I first saw this thread I thought it wouldn't survive. I was wrong - thanks everybody!
My truly strong vote for Arky, the other Admins and the members for being able to keep a thread like this positive.
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I wish that some drummers still came with internal mufflers
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:07 PM
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I figured out what it is about jazz that doesn't appeal to me. It's sound of the horns. I'm not a fan of a horn led band. I prefer an instrument that can make chords, like a guitar. A horn section can make chords, but I prefer to have chordings handled by just one musician. Single note leads, all the time, get tiresome to me. Horn sections are great, but 99% horn leads doesn't butter my bread.

A jazz song with a guitar or a piano lead is much more appealing to me. So it's not the jazz style, I like the jazz style, it's the instrumentation that grates on me sometimes. I still listen to jazz because of the musicianship....you can't get that anywhere else. But the horn led sound really doesn't scratch my musical itch. Not a fan of the trumpet tone, sorry Miles, I do like the sax tone though. Still, give me guitar or piano or organ led band any day. Not many single instruments make chords. What do you have, piano, guitar, organ? Is there anything else? OK harp. And vibes, I love them and want a set someday. And harmonica. I can't listen to a harmonica led band all night either, but I prefer that to most horn music I hear. Chords coming from one instrument is a big attraction to me.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:43 PM
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O and one more thing. I think Steve smith is one of the most boring, unoriginal drummers I've ever seen. I have taken private lessons with (for 3 hours), been to tons of clinics and a few gigs with his bands and I've even jammed with him. He's really really really good but he just tries to play like everyone else and everything he does is boring.
Wow. I just finished watching a vid of him playing with Hiromi that was awe-inspiring.

When you say "jammed with him", what exactly do you mean?
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Not a fan of the trumpet tone,
Haunting - wonderful - modern setting :) (careful Larry, it's someone you've met on drums ;) http://youtu.be/-Upm_0LBABI?t=2m57s

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It's a rule of this forum, like Godwin's Law. If a thread lasts a significant length of time, he will post something irrelevant referring to Charlie Watts.
...........never noticed that.........................my target detection skills are getting worse the older I get.
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The Sabian logo is hideous.
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Haunting - wonderful - modern setting :) (careful Larry, it's someone you've met on drums ;) http://youtu.be/-Upm_0LBABI?t=2m57s
OK fair enough Andy, I was more referring to jazz trumpet solos. When it gets real be-boppy I am not a fan of that tone. I like trumpet as part of the texture, I don't hate the sound. It does sound good there.

That's George Cook drumming right? Is that a Guru snare? I like the snare tone on this. Did I see one of your floor lamps there? :)
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It doesn't really matter what wood your drum shell is made of. Any slight difference in properties is lost in the mix anyway.
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It doesn't really matter what wood your drum shell is made of. Any slight difference in properties is lost in the mix anyway.
heck, even the actual performance and who the performer was gets lost in the mix at times!...theft/misrepresentation protected by deep pockets is sickening as well as destructive to the musical landscape.
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- I really don't like 90% of the Sabian AAX and Zildjian A lines, I think they're boring, sterile, and they sound mass produced to me. Also, brilliant finish on a cymbal takes away that impression of genuinity found in the (unfortunately) more expensive lines, like Ziljdian K or Sabian HH lines for instance.

- All cowbells should be destroyed. NOTHING needs more cowbell.
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- All cowbells should be destroyed. NOTHING needs more cowbell.
What did you say?? Surely, you jest. Nothing puts the boogey in the butt like a good ol' cowbell,
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Opinions of art are irrelevant outside of the self and really don't matter to the art itself...only to alternate agendas.

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That's George Cook drumming right? Is that a Guru snare? I like the snare tone on this. Did I see one of your floor lamps there? :)
Yes, yes, & yes :)

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Luckily, I'm in a good mood, so no need to mention your comment only applies to ply drums ;) ;) ;) --- oops ---
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If you really want the 70's thud sound, dont spend time tuning or reading several tuning manual....just throw a thin cloth over the head....
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Wow. I just finished watching a vid of him playing with Hiromi that was awe-inspiring.

When you say "jammed with him", what exactly do you mean?
This reminded me. I saw him at the Drumscene Live event in 2009 or 2010, I think it was. He played with Derek Roddy and another guy whose name escapes me at the moment. I was really keyed up to listen to Steve Smith after hearing him on one of the AUDW DVDs or something.

Anyway, we left early. I was so disappointed. Instead of all the cool stuff that I expected, he was doing something influenced by Indian or African music (I can't remember exactly what), and it involved weird mouth noises and stuff, and honestly just grated on my nerves. By this point it was close to midnight and I just said to the wife "let's go, I'm over it."

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I, too, have wondered about the status Steve Gadd rose to. Excellent drummer. I just wonder what made him, as well as Peart, the icons they have become.
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Aja. Late in the Evening. 50 Ways to Leave your Lover. nuf said.
Chick Coreas Friends album will also dispel anyone doubting his greatness.
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Aja. Late in the Evening. 50 Ways to Leave your Lover. nuf said.
Having since read the rest of this thread, I would like to apologize for being clueless and posting a serious response.
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Having since read the rest of this thread, I would like to apologize for being clueless and posting a serious response.
Have to give a lot of credit to a person who can reverse themselves so easily. What is that Monk quote? Arguing about music is like dancing about architecture. Brilliant quote.
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Flashin' for the musicians on their unnamed road to shrine
And for each and every underdog basher in the night
We gazed upon the chimes of freedom bashin'
Beyond awesome, Henri!

Underdog basher in the night! ll night!
Stand upright now and let bash your ears into freakin submission ...

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- All cowbells should be destroyed. NOTHING needs more cowbell.

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Another one. The only drum setup that I care about is my own. If you want to run flat Travis Barker toms, so be it.

To me it's like putting ape-hangers on a motorcycle. It might be anatomically inefficient, but if it makes you have more fun and feel cool, who am I to tell you what's "correct"?
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Originally Posted by Jeff Almeyda View Post
Wow. I just finished watching a vid of him playing with Hiromi that was awe-inspiring.

When you say "jammed with him", what exactly do you mean?
I played with him for a bit at a clinic. I'm just over him I guess, it sounds odd but I used to be his biggest fan when I was young, until I started listening too Tony and Elvin and guys like that.
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